Geary

[ace]

Battle eared the right last year to be an automatic
selection. It should be up to him to lose his spot.
This is exactly why I firmly believe Geary should
not be captain. He is on the fringe of our best 22. The captain should be in the top 10 best players on
the list at the very least.

Battle is a problem.

He's not big enough to be a KPP.

Not quick enough to play small.

Not mobile enough to be a mid.

He's a really good, polished footballer - but I just don't know what his spot is aside from the 3rd tall defender.
And if the opposition doesn't have a 3rd tall forward - then where does he play?

Perfect for a 3rd tall lead up forward.
And he can kick straight as a bonus.

[ace]

It will be a very interesting call, i think it will be either Battle or Webster to come in. Battle offers versatility and Webster offers hardness whilst both are smart and use the ball well. I reckon Websters pace will give him the slight advantage on this one.

Unfortunately this year is a raffle and is tough on any bloke outside the 22 as there is little opportunity to build any kind of form. Regardless, Battle will get his turn at some stage and when he does, it's up to him to hold it. Ahhhh to actually have depth, how refreshing!

Webster is an awful kick.

His kicking is worse than that.
And Rats hates butchers.
They don't leave enough scraps to eat.

[kosifantutti]

Righto... In any case, I’ll take Ratten’s opinion over yours every day of the week.

You don't know Ratten's opinion though.

You only know what he says in the media.

Well one instance of Ratten giving his opinion was actually during a facebook live Q & A session with Saints members so unless you're claiming him to be a liar than I reckon you should take off the tinfoil hat and get a pair of glasses whilst you're at it!

I sometimes tell my kids that their artwork is good when I want to encourage them.

Good post.

[skeptic]

Very interesting to me...
Savage, Webster, Newnes and Dunstan. All players who appeared to have a reverence that I didn’t feel was necessarily deserved... Dunstan to a lesser degree as he at least had some patches of consistency.

Newnes gone
Dunstan started with his spot but was first out and pbly first to return when opportunity arises
Savage and Webster not straight back in

Like it

[Joffa Burns]

Very interesting to me...
Savage, Webster, Newnes and Dunstan. All players who appeared to have a reverence that I didn’t feel was necessarily deserved... Dunstan to a lesser degree as he at least had some patches of consistency.

Newnes gone
Dunstan started with his spot but was first out and pbly first to return when opportunity arises
Savage and Webster not straight back in

Like it

Webster has had a really bad run with injury but can play, I wonder if he gets back?

Add Robbo & Kent to your list.

[Nick_BlueNRG]

When will Geary realise that he is not in our best 22? He should do the right thing and retire after this week.

[tony74]

That is a deplorable comment.

[Trev from the Bush]

That is a deplorable comment.

Tony, you have to understand that Nick specialises in deplorable comments, as did CityWest and all his previous identities.

A deplorable so-called supporter who thinks they know more than the entire club and dumps on our captain. Weak as cats piddle.

[saynta]

When will Geary realise that he is not in our best 22? He should do the right thing and retire after this week.

What utter f****** purile rubbish., You should be kicked off this forum.

[saynta]

That is a deplorable comment.

And some posters have the hide to call themselves "supporters".

[Nick_BlueNRG]

Sorry, I don't mean to offend but I honestly believe that Geary is not in our best 22 anymore. Maybe retire is too harsh but he should only play in the seniors if we are hit by injuries. If he wasn't captain Sinclair would be playing this week.

[samuraisaint]

Battle eared the right last year to be an automatic
selection. It should be up to him to lose his spot.
This is exactly why I firmly believe Geary should
not be captain. He is on the fringe of our best 22. The captain should be in the top 10 best players on
the list at the very least.

Battle is a problem.

He's not big enough to be a KPP.

Not quick enough to play small.

Not mobile enough to be a mid.

He's a really good, polished footballer - but I just don't know what his spot is aside from the 3rd tall defender.
And if the opposition doesn't have a 3rd tall forward - then where does he play?

Perfect for a 3rd tall lead up forward.
And he can kick straight as a bonus.

And he can play down back as a lock down defender too. Great player with lots of potential.

[Trev from the Bush]

Sorry, I don't mean to offend but I honestly believe that Geary is not in our best 22 anymore. Maybe retire is too harsh but he should only play in the seniors if we are hit by injuries. If he wasn't captain Sinclair would be playing this week.

Praise the Lord you are not a selector!

Usually pays to think before you hit the submit button.

Gears is an automatic selection any clearly in our best 22.

[Ghost Like]

Sorry, I don't mean to offend but I honestly believe that Geary is not in our best 22 anymore. Maybe retire is too harsh but he should only play in the seniors if we are hit by injuries. If he wasn't captain Sinclair would be playing this week.

Praise the Lord you are not a selector!

Usually pays to think before you hit the submit button.

Gears is an automatic selection any clearly in our best 22.

Whoa Trev! I like what you say, up to a point. I like Geary having a role and being given a job but I love the look of our backline without him. It is young and it is exciting.

Geary has an incredible discipline so when there is an attacking defender to lock down, he's valuable. When there's not I'm not sure he's best 22. I am hoping we've improved enough to make that decision a discussion rather than an automatic.

[Nick_BlueNRG]

Sorry, I don't mean to offend but I honestly believe that Geary is not in our best 22 anymore. Maybe retire is too harsh but he should only play in the seniors if we are hit by injuries. If he wasn't captain Sinclair would be playing this week.

Praise the Lord you are not a selector!

Usually pays to think before you hit the submit button.

Gears is an automatic selection any clearly in our best 22.

We will have to agree to disagree. In my opinion, with a full list to pick from he would be the 26th ranked player on our list.

[Trev from the Bush]

Sorry, I don't mean to offend but I honestly believe that Geary is not in our best 22 anymore. Maybe retire is too harsh but he should only play in the seniors if we are hit by injuries. If he wasn't captain Sinclair would be playing this week.

Praise the Lord you are not a selector!

Usually pays to think before you hit the submit button.

Gears is an automatic selection any clearly in our best 22.

Whoa Trev! I like what you say, up to a point. I like Geary having a role and being given a job but I love the look of our backline without him. It is young and it is exciting.

Geary has an incredible discipline so when there is an attacking defender to lock down, he's valuable. When there's not I'm not sure he's best 22. I am hoping we've improved enough to make that decision a discussion rather than an automatic.

Think your last sentence went a long way towards agreeing with me. And he is captain.

[MC Gusto]

Will put the glove on Betts and prove the naysayers wrong

[BarryGrogan]

Battle eared the right last year to be an automatic
selection. It should be up to him to lose his spot.
This is exactly why I firmly believe Geary should
not be captain. He is on the fringe of our best 22. The captain should be in the top 10 best players on
the list at the very least.

Battle is a problem.

He's not big enough to be a KPP.

Not quick enough to play small.

Not mobile enough to be a mid.

He's a really good, polished footballer - but I just don't know what his spot is aside from the 3rd tall defender.
And if the opposition doesn't have a 3rd tall forward - then where does he play?

Perfect for a 3rd tall lead up forward.
And he can kick straight as a bonus.

And he can play down back as a lock down defender too. Great player with lots of potential.

He's not a Great player.

He's average as a tall defender.
He's poor as a small defender.
He's good as a 3rd tall defender/medium defender.

He's poor as a tall forward.
Average as a small forward.
Ok as a 3rd tall forward/medium defender.

Poor as a midfielder.

As I said, he's a good, polished footballer. If he was bigger, he'd be an elite KPP - but unfortunately he's not.

If he was mobile, he could probably be an elite midfielder. But he's not.

So he kind of has a niche role.

And the problem is that Wilkie is ahead of him as the 3rd defender, easily. Which means that there's only really a spot for him if Marshall or Ryder don't play. When they both play, Membrey is ahead of him as the 3rd tall forward.

I really like Battle as a player. But I just can't see where his position is in the best 22.

[skeptic]

Battle eared the right last year to be an automatic
selection. It should be up to him to lose his spot.
This is exactly why I firmly believe Geary should
not be captain. He is on the fringe of our best 22. The captain should be in the top 10 best players on
the list at the very least.

Battle is a problem.

He's not big enough to be a KPP.

Not quick enough to play small.

Not mobile enough to be a mid.

He's a really good, polished footballer - but I just don't know what his spot is aside from the 3rd tall defender.
And if the opposition doesn't have a 3rd tall forward - then where does he play?

Perfect for a 3rd tall lead up forward.
And he can kick straight as a bonus.

And he can play down back as a lock down defender too. Great player with lots of potential.

He's not a Great player.

He's average as a tall defender.
He's poor as a small defender.
He's good as a 3rd tall defender/medium defender.

He's poor as a tall forward.
Average as a small forward.
Ok as a 3rd tall forward/medium defender.

Poor as a midfielder.

As I said, he's a good, polished footballer. If he was bigger, he'd be an elite KPP - but unfortunately he's not.

If he was mobile, he could probably be an elite midfielder. But he's not.

So he kind of has a niche role.

And the problem is that Wilkie is ahead of him as the 3rd defender, easily. Which means that there's only really a spot for him if Marshall or Ryder don't play. When they both play, Membrey is ahead of him as the 3rd tall forward.

I really like Battle as a player. But I just can't see where his position is in the best 22.

Well things have shaken up a bit this year.
With Howard here, King on the park, Carlisle back... me thinks that we’re still figuring out the ideal team structure/balance.
Hopefully we can find a spot/role for Battle as he certainly is very talented.

[SAINT-LEE]

That is a deplorable comment.

Dammmmnnnnn!
I've never hidden the fact I'm no Geary fan, in terms of being the greatest defense player ever...but he's our captain and very well respected. He gives 150% guaranteed even when he's wrecked....this is for Geary comment not Tony's but not sure how to delete post sooooo....yeah, just left it.

[WellardSaint]

When will Geary realise that he is not in our best 22? He should do the right thing and retire after this week.

Geary is a fearless warrior that never gives up.
Unfortunately, his lack of skill and habit of causing turnovers, means he is a serious liability.
All the gains we have made with recruiting Hill, Jones, Butler, will be thrown out of the window in each game that Geary plays.
His inclusion is difference between smooth and accurate ball movement, and multiple turnovers and letting the oppo get a run-on.

[ace]

Geary will probably take Betts.
Lock down Betts hurts the opposition scoring BUT
Don't forget why Betts fell out of favour with the Adelaide selectors.
He created a massive hole in his team's forward defence structure.

When we turn over their ball Geary must run off him and exploit Betts lazy defence.

[Scollop]

Last week I saw Battle lining up on the wing after a goal was scored and I was confused, but straight after the bounce and straight after one of their mids got the ball, guess who charged in and put on a lock arm tackle to hold them up? That’s right...Joshy boy

Cripps is the size of a centre half forward. He’s not overly quick either so I reckon if you are going to be up against mids of that size there’s no point playing someone who can’t match them for strength. I reckon you’ll see a bit of Joshy around some stoppages

I’d love Gears to put a strangle hold on someone like Docherty or Kade Simpson. Not sure if he has the tank for Murphy, but that would also be a good match up. Betts is not going to be the biggest threat to us winning in my opinion.

[tony74]

When will Geary realise that he is not in our best 22? He should do the right thing and retire after this week.

Maybe the Captain may have got wind of this comment

[SemperFidelis]

When will Geary realise that he is not in our best 22? He should do the right thing and retire after this week.

Maybe the Captain may have got wind of this comment