Jaxons come on down

[Jacks Back]

Brett Anderson (twitter):
"If No.13 gets to GWS via CARL in Gibbs/Marchbank deals, don't rule out STK shipping 23 & 36 for 13. Would be cunning dealing by Saints."

But don't we have to use 3 picks in the national draft? If we give 23 & 36 for 13 and if the dogs accept pick 50 for Stevens then we only have the on pick at 13 to use in the draft.

If we get pick 13 and then give up 50 for Stevens, then we still have 86 and 104 up our sleeve?
Maybe that is the hold up on Stevens. We are either offering them 86 or offering them 50 but asking for 61 back.
That means we can use 13, 61 and 86 in the draft.

Still leaves us with two first rounders next year as well.

Okay thanks. I didn't realise we had later picks.

[Jacks Back]

[saintbrat]

Mav showing a possible future career - recruitment?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 240e94ff03

St Kilda’s Maverick Weller attempts to recruit Hawthorn’s Luke Hodge via Twitter

Herald Sun
41 minutes ago

NOT to be outdone by West Coast or Melbourne, St Kilda has become the latest club to try and recruit a star Hawk.

And they brought in the big guns to get the deal over the line.

Maverick Weller started the chase when he tweeted his interest in the Saints adding Hawthorn star Luke Hodge.

Follow
Maverick Weller ✔ @Maverickweller
We'll have @LHodge15 then @stkildafc #AFLTrades
2:00 PM - 18 Oct 2016
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This was then picked up by St Kilda fanatic Shane Warne who jumped at

Weller didn’t mind letting Hodge know who put him up to it though, before one last crack.

4h
Luke Hodge ✔ @LHodge15
@ShaneWarne
A fair bit is going on mate. I think @Maverickweller started that rumour.
I'm with the hawks next year buddy.
Follow
Maverick Weller ✔ @Maverickweller
@LHodge15 @ShaneWarne Warney told me to say it. Promise .. but seriously you should come
6:17 PM - 18 Oct 2016
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[saynta]

Brett Anderson (twitter):
"If No.13 gets to GWS via CARL in Gibbs/Marchbank deals, don't rule out STK shipping 23 & 36 for 13. Would be cunning dealing by Saints."

But don't we have to use 3 picks in the national draft? If we give 23 & 36 for 13 and if the dogs accept pick 50 for Stevens then we only have the on pick at 13 to use in the draft.

If we get pick 13 and then give up 50 for Stevens, then we still have 86 and 104 up our sleeve?
Maybe that is the hold up on Stevens. We are either offering them 86 or offering them 50 but asking for 61 back.
That means we can use 13, 61 and 86 in the draft.

Still leaves us with two first rounders next year as well.

Okay thanks. I didn't realise we had later picks.

You get the same no of picks that you have vacancies...they just get later in the draft.

[ace]

Brett Anderson (twitter):
"If No.13 gets to GWS via CARL in Gibbs/Marchbank deals, don't rule out STK shipping 23 & 36 for 13. Would be cunning dealing by Saints."

Pick 23 (815pts) + Pick 36 (502pts) = 1317 points = pick11.
Now pick 13 will probably slip to 15(1112pts) or 16(1067) due to academy queue jumping.
We would be giving up around 200 points but that would be the incentive to the other side to get the deal done.

Remember we had pick 14 last year but it became 18 on the day.

[st.byron]

Brett Anderson (twitter):
"If No.13 gets to GWS via CARL in Gibbs/Marchbank deals, don't rule out STK shipping 23 & 36 for 13. Would be cunning dealing by Saints."

Pick 23 (815pts) + Pick 36 (502pts) = 1317 points = pick11.
Now pick 13 will probably slip to 15(1112pts) or 16(1067) due to academy queue jumping.
We would be giving up around 200 points but that would be the incentive to the other side to get the deal done.

Remember we had pick 14 last year but it became 18 on the day.

I've read reports that the draft is very even from pick 8 through the second round.
Is there really an advantage for us in this year's draft to trade away a late second rounder to upgrade from 23 to 13?

Love it that we have two first rounders already in the bank for next year.

[prwilkinson]

Gees... if they manage to work their way back into the first round and draft a player such as Griffen Logue as well... wow!!

[stkfc1]

Gees... if they manage to work their way back into the first round and draft a player such as Griffen Logue as well... wow!!

We'd be making off like bandits if this happens. Make it so Saints!!

[St Chris]

It would make our deal with the Hawks effectively Pick 10 for Pick 13 & next years 1st rounder......

[ace]

It would make our deal with the Hawks effectively Pick 10 for Pick 13 & next years 1st rounder......

The deal from Hawthorn was so lucrative to St Kilda that I think the Hawthorn negotiators made a mistake and did not realise that they had left pick 23 inside the deal.
Pick 10 slips to pick 12 say due to academy picks = 1268 points
Pick 36 remains about there = 502 points
Take off pick 68 = 59 points
That would have offered St Kilda 1702 points worth mid way between 6 & 7 but again allowing for 2 place slippage = midway between pick 8 & 9
Means that if Hawthorn finishes in the top 9 St Kilda would be ahead.
Pick 23 is an unnecessary bonus, it is no steak knife.

It has been suggested that Gold Coast said we don't want any future picks in the O'Meara deal but
A Hawthorn offer of pick 23, 36 and Hawthorns 2017 first rounder would have been a better deal than they will get now.
If Hawthorn had waited until after the Lewis deal they could be offering Hawthorns first rounder + 23 + 36 + 48 = 1619 points.
Gold Coast takes those 3 picks to St Kilda for pick 10.
Saints laughing all the way to the bank.
Gold Coast ends up with pick 10 for 2016 and probably a pick 11 to 18 for 2017.

Oh dear. Hawthorn and Gold Coast have really stuffed this up.
But Hawthorn supporters are confident O'Meara will reject any attempt by Essendon due to bad blood between O'Meara and Guy McKenna when the latter was coach at Gold Coast.
O'Meara can refuse a trade to Essendon but once he is in the main draft and/or preseason draft he can only use salary requirements to prevent another club taking him.
Hawthorn does not have much salary to spare.

[ace]

Melbourne have capitulated they wanted to use next years second rounder to get Michael Hibberd but Essendon were insisting on this years.

I just hate it when the Essendon mafia godfather Dildoro gets his way.

But this opens an opportunity for St Kilda.
Melbourne don't have a pick in this draft until pick 57, but Melbourne would desperately love to get an earlier pick in this draft by trading 2017 picks.
Not sure what we can do but any opportunities need to be explored.

[fugazi]

Melbourne have capitulated they wanted to use next years second rounder to get Michael Hibberd but Essendon were insisting on this years.

I just hate it when the Essendon mafia godfather Dildoro gets his way.

But this opens an opportunity for St Kilda.
Melbourne don't have a pick in this draft until pick 57, but Melbourne would desperately love to get an earlier pick in this draft by trading 2017 picks.
Not sure what we can do but any opportunities need to be explored.

Are you suggesting pick 23 and 36 for Melbournes first next year?

[dragit]

Melbourne have capitulated they wanted to use next years second rounder to get Michael Hibberd but Essendon were insisting on this years.

I just hate it when the Essendon mafia godfather Dildoro gets his way.

But this opens an opportunity for St Kilda.
Melbourne don't have a pick in this draft until pick 57, but Melbourne would desperately love to get an earlier pick in this draft by trading 2017 picks.
Not sure what we can do but any opportunities need to be explored.

Are you suggesting pick 23 and 36 for Melbournes first next year?

But then we would have no decent picks this year… > 50, 68 & 86 then add a few for FA compo

[ace]

Melbourne have capitulated they wanted to use next years second rounder to get Michael Hibberd but Essendon were insisting on this years.

I just hate it when the Essendon mafia godfather Dildoro gets his way.

But this opens an opportunity for St Kilda.
Melbourne don't have a pick in this draft until pick 57, but Melbourne would desperately love to get an earlier pick in this draft by trading 2017 picks.
Not sure what we can do but any opportunities need to be explored.

Are you suggesting pick 23 and 36 for Melbournes first next year?

I was thinking maybe pick 36 which comes from Hawthorn's 5th place on the ladder in 2016 for Melbourne's 2017 second rounder plus a steak knife like Melbourne's third rounder from next year.
Melbourne dream that they will be around 5th next year giving them pick 31 which slips to 36 after priority and free agent compensation picks are added in.
We know they are dreaming which is to our advantage and a few steak knives enable you to have a meal.

[bob__71]

I get the feeling we may delist then re draft a couple of players with late picks.

[longtimesaint]

I get the feeling we may delist then re draft a couple of players with late picks.

We have to use one of the late picks to upgrade Holmes as he signed a new one year contract.

[ace]

I get the feeling we may delist then re draft a couple of players with late picks.

We have to use one of the late picks to upgrade Holmes as he signed a new one year contract.

That would mean we need to make 2 actual picks in the draft, presently picks 23 and 36.
We need to get rid of pick 50 for Koby Stevens.

[The OtherThommo]

Posted this @ E'dope, but one would think GWS would be factoring this in to their list thinking, should it go the wrong way (for them and Whitfield).

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-2016-a ... s54gm.html

"The legal advice means the drugs body is briefed to consider its own independent move on the trio if the AFL does not lay charges.

The AFL has received legal advice and is deciding whether to lay charges of avoiding a performance-enhancing drugs test, which brings a mandatory minimum four-year penalty. The news that ASADA has sought legal advice separate to the AFL indicates it was preparing for the possibility of acting regardless of the AFL."

[stonecold]

Hey Jax, see your online again, what do you know about big news about to come out of St.Kilda?????

[Linton Street Saint]

Hey Jax, see your online again, what do you know about big news about to come out of St.Kilda?????

What do you know? I wanna be able to judge your worth, I value what jaxons and tony74 have to say.

Yet you've given us nothing.

[suss]

GC deal for Prestia done. They now have pick 6 to add to the pile. GC now look like the safest option to get back into the first round purely on the picks they have.

Could be an interesting last 24 (ish) hours.

[stonecold]

Hey Jax, see your online again, what do you know about big news about to come out of St.Kilda?????

What do you know? I wanna be able to judge your worth, I value what jaxons and tony74 have to say.

Yet you've given us nothing.

I ask Jax a question, what do you know????? I want to be able to Judge your worth!!!!!

Jax and Tony haven't had much to say, really, so maybe something big is happening and they carnt say!!!!!

[Teflon]

Just spoke to Bev from Saints catering and she confirmed (as an ITK....in the kitchen..)
We have traded with a local bakery a first round option of bringing party pies and sausage rolls into our corporate offering at Moorabin!!

Bev's hopeful a second round deal for curry puffs comes through and suggests if this occurs we won't even need steak knives!!

Alright...!! I'm bored.

[BelfastSaint]

Hey Jax, see your online again, what do you know about big news about to come out of St.Kilda?????

That statement infers that you know about some big news coming ....... well ..do you .. ???????
or are you just posturing and waiting for jaxons to give some info so you can say .. stonecold told ya !!!!!

[Linton Street Saint]

Hey Jax, see your online again, what do you know about big news about to come out of St.Kilda?????

What do you know? I wanna be able to judge your worth, I value what jaxons and tony74 have to say.

Yet you've given us nothing.

I ask Jax a question, what do you know????? I want to be able to Judge your worth!!!!!

Jax and Tony haven't had much to say, really, so maybe something big is happening and they carnt say!!!!!

I have never intimated that I have known anything or wanted validation for having said so.

All you having recently done is hint that you're ITK and ask jaxons for info.