Or worse again, Julia Gillard for 15 minutes.perfectionist wrote:He will be given the choice between hanging at dawn or, more cruelly, having to listen to tapes of John Howard for an hour.saintbrat wrote:15 minute deliberation
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Nick Bowen:
Chairman: Judd entitle to have his guilty plea taken into account, a matter for jury what weight they give that. "In my judgment his contrition was sincere ..."
well chairman on his side by the looks
then again.......
Nick Bowen:
Chairman: we're not proceeding under MRP loading system. Entitled to consider his past offences as an aggravating factor
Chairman: Judd entitle to have his guilty plea taken into account, a matter for jury what weight they give that. "In my judgment his contrition was sincere ..."
well chairman on his side by the looks
then again.......
Nick Bowen:
Chairman: we're not proceeding under MRP loading system. Entitled to consider his past offences as an aggravating factor
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Chairman clearly delusionalmatrix wrote:Nick Bowen:
Chairman: Judd entitle to have his guilty plea taken into account, a matter for jury what weight they give that. "In my judgment his contrition was sincere ..."
well chairman on his side by the looks
Re: Judd - Am I missing something?
matrix wrote:Jury deliberating on penalty now. hoping we get a decision soon
blimey if it was anyone else it would of been done and dusted already
Hall's went longer. Well that is what 3aw said.
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matrix wrote:ooooooh
ok if it was anyone else BUT barry hall then plugger
christ sake
Dont know. I think there has only been 3 or 4 cases gone direct to the tribunal.
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matrix wrote:got 4 weeks
Sounds right to me. What it does mean is a lot will complain. Those who said it was a beat up and those who wanted him hanged. No wonder the tribunal is nearly always wrong.
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What a joke. 4 friggin weeks.
Considering if the MRP laid a charge and used the 30% loading its really only a 3 week penalty loaded up.
Clearly the AFL didn't want Carlton to appeal.
Well done to the Carlton legal team. I can only dream of our club ever putting up such a good fight.
Considering if the MRP laid a charge and used the 30% loading its really only a 3 week penalty loaded up.
Clearly the AFL didn't want Carlton to appeal.
Well done to the Carlton legal team. I can only dream of our club ever putting up such a good fight.
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heheh and for all SEN been covering blow by b,low it happens during the news
oh well- time for him to get over his own shoulder injuries,
oh well- time for him to get over his own shoulder injuries,
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saintspremiers wrote:What a joke. 4 friggin weeks.
Considering if the MRP laid a charge and used the 30% loading its really only a 3 week penalty loaded up.
Clearly the AFL didn't want Carlton to appeal.
Well done to the Carlton legal team. I can only dream of our club ever putting up such a good fight.
Sainter K is a pretty fair judge and she said about 2 weeks. Does that mean she thinks the tribunal is a joke because tey are to harsh and Carlton should appeal. By the way the AFL were pushing for much more so at least get your facts right.
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I would have given 5 but 4 weeks is probably about right.
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Plugger re read my post you knob. I said well done to the Carlton legal team. They saved a few extra weeks the tribunal could have easily added without such a strong argument.
We all know how we've fared with Baker and then appealing.
Carlton can be happy with 4 weeks and see no point in even considering an appeal.
We all know how we've fared with Baker and then appealing.
Carlton can be happy with 4 weeks and see no point in even considering an appeal.
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What a waste of a night. This is why jack ruby did in Oswald - I love Lucy was scheduled that night.
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Much, much harsher than I thought it would be.plugger66 wrote:saintspremiers wrote:What a joke. 4 friggin weeks.
Considering if the MRP laid a charge and used the 30% loading its really only a 3 week penalty loaded up.
Clearly the AFL didn't want Carlton to appeal.
Well done to the Carlton legal team. I can only dream of our club ever putting up such a good fight.
Sainter K is a pretty fair judge and she said about 2 weeks. Does that mean she thinks the tribunal is a joke because tey are to harsh and Carlton should appeal. By the way the AFL were pushing for much more so at least get your facts right.
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saintspremiers wrote:Plugger re read my post you knob. I said well done to the Carlton legal team. They saved a few extra weeks the tribunal could have easily added without such a strong argument.
We all know how we've fared with Baker and then appealing.
Carlton can be happy with 4 weeks and see no point in even considering an appeal.
I re read it and you said clearly the AFL dont want an appeal. Well the AFL were pushing for 6-7 weeks so they had nothing to do with the 4. You also said it was a joke. I gather that is because he only got 4. My point was others may think it is a joke because he got to many. The only ones happy will be the people who picked 4 weeks. And that is my point. All the others think the tribunal is wrong because he got to many or not enough. By the way the 30% loading doesnt look like it was used. They just picked 450 points.
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Agree. MRP wouldve been intentional, high impact body contact.desertsaint wrote:What a waste of a night. This is why jack ruby did in Oswald - I love Lucy was scheduled that night.
7 activation points = 425 points plus 30% loading = 540 points less 25% early plea = about 410 points = 4 weeks.
5 weeks for severe impact.
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Re: Judd - Am I missing something?
Sounds like at least he went in with no pretence of intent or some silly story, probably just went with 'I did it, but I did not intend to hurt him that much'
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Just one thing on this thread. It proves that these type of threads should be on this forum. It wouldnt hardly get a look in on the other one. Well thats my opinion on it anyway.