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Dog gone: Bulldogs mid requests a switch to the Saints

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-13/d ... the-saints

WESTERN Bulldogs midfielder Koby Stevens has requested a trade to St Kilda.

AFL.com.au understands the out-of-contract 25-year-old met with Saints coach Alan Richardson last week and has chosen Seaford as his new home ahead of an attractive offer from Essendon.

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Jaxons, Hickey for L Weller a chance?


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please....

If that happens I will introduce my membership to the microwave.


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Post: # 1642089Post Life Long Saint »

longtimesaint wrote:
Linton Lodger wrote:Actually I just read that Stevens is out of contract. Doesn't that mean we get him for nothing?
That only works if he nominates for the PSD and then Essendon and 8 other teams have access to him before us.
If we want him we have to trade with the dogs.
If the Doggies have offered him a contract then he can reject that and go to the PSD or be traded. So Essendon could get him with pick one in the PSD.
If the Doggies have not offered him a contract then he will be delisted and be able to be selected as a delisted free agent.


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Koby Stevens and Steele who both have pretty good inside game. To add to Acres, Gresham, Ross, Dunstan. Does this give any smoke to the "trade Armo" smoldering ashes?


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this is the strong rumor

SAINTS WANT
*a young key defender
*Lachie Weller

Offering:
*A ruckman. Tom Hickey included
*Pick 10
*Armitage + Webster

Cannot believe the club would trade Hickey...that just doesnt make any sense..he is a star?
I understand Armo and Webster.....?? Crazy if Hickey goes....


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The tarde to Freo is rumored to be

Hickey for Weller and a pick.....not sure we can afford to trade out an up and coming ruckman

https://twitter.com/AFLTradeWhisper?lang=en
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Myron Gaines wrote:Jaxons, Hickey for L Weller a chance?
Why would you trade one of the best young ruckman in AFL?


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I don't know if we would I'm just quantifying a rumour.


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The Recruit wrote:this is the strong rumor

SAINTS WANT
*a young key defender
*Lachie Weller

Offering:
*A ruckman. Tom Hickey included
*Pick 10
*Armitage + Webster

Cannot believe the club would trade Hickey...that just doesnt make any sense..he is a star?
I understand Armo and Webster.....?? Crazy if Hickey goes....

Can you PLEASE not post the garbage from the Trade Whisperer as a STRONG Rumour!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you are going to repost the TW crap please do us all a a HUGE favour and acknowledge your source.

Or do us an even bigger favour and not post the TW crap at all. You do realise that the TW posted that Titch was not going to join the Hawks the day before he did!!!!!!!!!!!!
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longtimesaint wrote:
Myron Gaines wrote:Jaxons, Hickey for L Weller a chance?
Why would you trade one of the best young ruckman in AFL?
Because he is the only ruckman we have who has any currency. Longer is worth less now than he was 12 months ago, and arguably we would be "selling low " . They would be banking on one of Linger or Pierce coming good - with Holmes as insurance for the next 2 seasons.

Personally, I like Hickey and hope he stays


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Myron Gaines wrote:I don't know if we would I'm just quantifying a rumour.
If it is from the TW it only qualifies as bull***t and no as a rumour. The TW has absolutely no credibility. None, zero, nada....and indeed is most likely just trolling the gullible.


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longtimesaint wrote:
Myron Gaines wrote:Jaxons, Hickey for L Weller a chance?
Why would you trade one of the best young ruckman in AFL?
We wont. The source is the trill the Trade Whisperer most likely.

Can all those reposting rumours acknowledge the source? That way the reader can make up their own mind as to the possible accuracy of the rumour.


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St Ick wrote: Second thing is it was reported a while ago we offered 450k pa - surely hope not.
Reported, or rumoured?

Dogs did not offer him anything. Also evidently the Dons did not either.

I would imagine that we are offering him a fair but not over the top deal and well under $450K.
Sorry, meant rumoured.

Looking at his year on AFL player ratings seemed a bit unlucky to be on the outer after round 17 I think it was.

I admittedly haven't followed him closely in recent times so perhaps went early. I've heard he doesn't have a Dogs contract in front of him (or that they've withdrawn his offer), if thats the case he will be a DFA. If Dogs do in fact have a contract I can't see us giving up more than a pick in the 60s. I doubt we'd get a better prospect drafted in that range.

As prw pointed out, probably only knocks out Wright or Meatball so immediately improves our best 22.

He's no a grader but he has proven in the past that he can get high 30 possession games and double figure tackles who can hit the scoreboard so he could be an astute moneyball option.


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saintsRrising wrote:
longtimesaint wrote:
Myron Gaines wrote:Jaxons, Hickey for L Weller a chance?
Why would you trade one of the best young ruckman in AFL?
We wont. The source is the trill the Trade Whisperer most likely.

Can all those reposting rumours acknowledge the source? That way the reader can make up their own mind as to the possible accuracy of the rumour.
have done in the seperate thread...agree with putting source should have done it on the original....i blacked out from the Hickey info i think


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Bluthy wrote:Koby Stevens and Steele who both have pretty good inside game. To add to Acres, Gresham, Ross, Dunstan. Does this give any smoke to the "trade Armo" smoldering ashes?
No..jaxons already said Armo wont be traded


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Playon wrote:
Bluthy wrote:Koby Stevens and Steele who both have pretty good inside game. To add to Acres, Gresham, Ross, Dunstan. Does this give any smoke to the "trade Armo" smoldering ashes?
No..jaxons already said Armo wont be traded

For a price, everyone is on the market so Jaxons can't make that promise.


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I honestly reckon that the only way that Hickey could be on the table is if we were putting up Pick 10 along with it.



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Reported that 10 for 15 and Steele is close. Its a good deal but I want more, perhaps next years 3rd for 31 too?

Unless 15 and Armo go to Lions for pick 3 or Suns for pick 5.

Armo doubtful to leave but things change by the minute in trade week.

Hickey for Weller and pick 60 for Stevens.

Lose Hickey, Armo, 10 and 60
Gain Weller, Steele, Stevens and pick 3/5.

I'd do it in a heartbeat.


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Post: # 1642117Post bigred »

hmmmm.

I think we lose on that.


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Please do not trade hickey!!!


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So basically all the Weller/hickey talk has come from the 15 year old trade whisperer who makes everything up or reads hypotheticals on bigfooty ?


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bigred wrote:hmmmm.

I think we lose on that.
What if you add that 31 in there as well?

Its so in our favour and we still aren't keen.


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Post: # 1642122Post samoht »

jonesy wrote:So basically all the Weller/hickey talk has come from the 15 year old trade whisperer who makes everything up or reads hypotheticals on bigfooty ?

Could be a SOITK? Or just a SOB!


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Trading Hickey will weaken our list. He's so important structure wise. We've also put the time into his development and this year we began reaping the rewards. He's the ruckman we need for our next challenge. I have faith that Lewie Pierce will be his back up. Unfortunately, Billy's trade value has plummeted on the back of a very ordinary, injury riddled year. We need Hickey more than we need Lachie Weller.


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