Richo has lost the players

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Re: Richo has lost the players

Post: # 1727261Post realdeal »

samoht wrote:What we need if we’re going to emulate Hawthorn and Geelong is recruiting standards.
If players don’t tick the boxes, you don’t recruit them.
We need quality control in recruiting - set some criteria/standards, that we religiously adhere to.

When you hear us say : “ I can’t believe this player slid to us” know that other teams have overlooked this player for good reasons - as they didn’t meet their quality control standards.
Isn't our criteria that they are a nice kid? :?


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Re: Richo has lost the players

Post: # 1727264Post samoht »

... as long as they’re nice kids due to their false modesty - and a bit of a swagger is okay.
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Re: Richo has lost the players

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Saintly66 wrote:
congorozides wrote:
bigred wrote:I don't think he has lost the group.
LOL

Our % is is the lowest in the AFL. 69.4
We were older and more experienced than both Melbourne and Freo.

Just LOL.
Prick started losing the group through 2016.
Your theory S66 or some inside knowledge?


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Re: Richo has lost the players

Post: # 1727272Post Linton Lodger »

We have many issues at the moment, although last night was better than the previous 2 matches. However, there is absolutely no indication that Richo has lost the players, nowhere near it.


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Re: Richo has lost the players

Post: # 1727278Post wolfpup »

realdeal wrote:
samoht wrote:What we need if we’re going to emulate Hawthorn and Geelong is recruiting standards.
If players don’t tick the boxes, you don’t recruit them.
We need quality control in recruiting - set some criteria/standards, that we religiously adhere to.

When you hear us say : “ I can’t believe this player slid to us” know that other teams have overlooked this player for good reasons - as they didn’t meet their quality control standards.
Isn't our criteria that they are a nice kid? :?
lol. i thought it was good singing voices.


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Re: Richo has lost the players

Post: # 1727308Post Saintly66 »

st.byron wrote:
Saintly66 wrote:
congorozides wrote:
bigred wrote:I don't think he has lost the group.
LOL

Our % is is the lowest in the AFL. 69.4
We were older and more experienced than both Melbourne and Freo.

Just LOL.
Prick started losing the group through 2016.
Your theory S66 or some inside knowledge?
Inside knowledge.


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To lose one player is unfortunate; to lose 22 is just careless!
With apologies to Oscar Wilde


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Re: Richo has lost the players

Post: # 1727314Post Joffa Burns »

With zero inside knowledge of the current structure but experience in sporting environment it certainly appears from performance and body language the coach has lost the support or if not support the confidence of the playing group.


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Re: Richo has lost the players

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This is season 2000 revisited. Richardson's coaching and general demeanour is positively " Watson-esque" I can think of no more damning condemnation


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Re: Richo has lost the players

Post: # 1727320Post Joffa Burns »

thejiggingsaint wrote:This is season 2000 revisited. Richardson's coaching and general demeanour is positively " Watson-esque" I can think of no more damning condemnation
Very fair analogy!


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Joffa Burns wrote:
thejiggingsaint wrote:This is season 2000 revisited. Richardson's coaching and general demeanour is positively " Watson-esque" I can think of no more damning condemnation
Very fair analogy!
I've not felt so flat about our prospects as a club since the 2000 season


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thejiggingsaint wrote:
Joffa Burns wrote:
thejiggingsaint wrote:This is season 2000 revisited. Richardson's coaching and general demeanour is positively " Watson-esque" I can think of no more damning condemnation
Very fair analogy!
I've not felt so flat about our prospects as a club since the 2000 season
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It's pretty dire. What's even more troubling is there was actually a decent spread of talent on the list in 2000, which made it easier for GT to manage when he took over. It's going to be a very tough job for the list management personnel to put us back on par anytime soon.


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Re: Richo has lost the players

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Linton Lodger wrote:We have many issues at the moment, although last night was better than the previous 2 matches. However, there is absolutely no indication that Richo has lost the players, nowhere near it.
No indication?
That is either comical or cognitive dissonance. I cant tell if you are taking the piss or not?

We have won 3 games of the last 17 (including JLT) with an average losing margin of 40.
I have been to a few live games in that time and the body language is horrendous.
There is ABSOLUTELY every indication the coach has lost the players and this has been evident since Rd 17 2017 v Essendon.

I have also seen you write 'dont be surprised if we smash X team this week....' since July last year.

Everybody will be extremely surprised if we 'smash' anyone because we are terrible. Absolutely terrible.

We might win a few games this season because sooner or later we will run in to a side having an off day. That is our best hope for a win.
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Re: Richo has lost the players

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Joffa Burns wrote:With zero inside knowledge of the current structure but experience in sporting environment it certainly appears from performance and body language the coach has lost the support or if not support the confidence of the playing group.
Yep.


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Re: Richo has lost the players

Post: # 1727343Post congorozides »

Everybody got stuck in to Buckley for a while during the Pies rebuild but he never finished a season with a % below 90. They were always competitive.
He has also never dipped below a 50% win record.

Richo is stuck on 35% win record and we have been down under 70% for most of his coaching career.

Not only is he losing lots of games - the loss margins have been horrendous for the majority of the last 5 years.

We arent even slightly competitive.


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Post: # 1727344Post Teflon »

thejiggingsaint wrote:This is season 2000 revisited. Richardson's coaching and general demeanour is positively " Watson-esque" I can think of no more damning condemnation
Agreed the parallels are spooky I’ve thought same


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Re: Richo has lost the players

Post: # 1727400Post bigred »

Third quarter last night alone shows that he hasn't lost the players.

Bunch of folk on here clutching for reasons.

They are just s***.


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Richo is another Watto it would appear.


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Re: Richo has lost the players

Post: # 1727414Post bigred »

Nah mate.

There will always be only one Scott Watters.


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Re: Richo has lost the players

Post: # 1727416Post st.byron »

bigred wrote:Third quarter last night alone shows that he hasn't lost the players.

Bunch of folk on here clutching for reasons.

They are just s***.
That seems to me more like clutching at straws.


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Post: # 1727421Post thejiggingsaint »

st.byron wrote:
bigred wrote:Third quarter last night alone shows that he hasn't lost the players.

Bunch of folk on here clutching for reasons.

They are just s***.
That seems to me more like clutching at straws.
Time for someone at the club to grow a pair of “ Henry Halls” and start the ball rolling for a complete and comprehensive EXTERNAL review of the entire operation! Anything less is just repeating our long and woeful history


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Re: Richo has lost the players

Post: # 1727425Post congorozides »

I am gobsmacked how gullible some people are when it comes to Richo.

I guess it is because he is on TV on 360 or he does a lot of media?

Not sure what it is but the reality is he is a a much worse performed coach than Scott Watters yet some people seem to be completely blind to reality. A strange phenomenon.


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Re: Richo has lost the players

Post: # 1727426Post congorozides »

thejiggingsaint wrote:
st.byron wrote:
bigred wrote:Third quarter last night alone shows that he hasn't lost the players.

Bunch of folk on here clutching for reasons.

They are just s***.
That seems to me more like clutching at straws.
Time for someone at the club to grow a pair of “ Henry Halls” and start the ball rolling for a complete and comprehensive EXTERNAL review of the entire operation! Anything less is just repeating our long and woeful history
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Re: Richo has lost the players

Post: # 1727438Post thejiggingsaint »

I’m the first one to hold my hand up as one who has consistently preached for the need for STABILITY at the club. I STILL believe in the need for stability, but THIS? The overwhelming impression that I’m getting from the club is INERTIA! Something HAS to be done, and done QUICKLY!


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