Who the HELL????

[Dis Believer]

What sort of occasion would you hire a dwarf for just out of curiosity?

A quest to Mount Doom in Mordor ??

[Moods]

I'm contacting the press and offering to give a disability rights perspective on this matter. I am 100% certain on this; I've seen it many times before... this is not just unacceptable; it's not just abuse; it's criminal and its got to be condemned.

Are you taking the piss?

Not if the PM I received after my post in response to his is any guide.

I received a PM as well - however I don't think I've ever seen such an over reaction to an incident by anyone on here before. It's almost like he's reading a different article to everyone else. What I'm certain of, is that he has no idea what criminal intent is

[SENsei]

Seven pages? Geez whiz. Wowee! The little fella hires himself out as entertainment. A joke has gone wrong and could've had dire consequences. Stupid behaviour. Apologies and make goods required. But criminal intent? Seriously?

[CURLY]

I'm contacting the press and offering to give a disability rights perspective on this matter. I am 100% certain on this; I've seen it many times before... this is not just unacceptable; it's not just abuse; it's criminal and its got to be condemned.

Shut up what the hells wrong with you? Your the reason kids cant climb trees anymore.

[markp]

If it's too early to be passing judgement and condemning it's also probably too early to be defending and making (really) pathetic jokes.

It sounds like something monumental d***heads like fevola or carey would've done.

Hopefully it's a misunderstanding/overreaction and cleared up quickly, right now it's a bad look for the club... another one.

[SENsei]

If it's too early to be passing judgement and condemning it's also probably too early to be defending and making (really) pathetic jokes.

It sounds like something monumental d***heads like fevola or carey would've done.

Hopefully it's a misunderstanding/overreaction and cleared up quickly, right now it's a bad look for the club... another one.

Just because they can play a good level of football does not make the brain scientists or rocket surgeons. <redacted> heads are all over the place.

[Bluthy]

But the clubs with good cultures curtail the extremes of the said wankers - such as setting fire to people (allegedly)

Greatest myth ever… tell me who these clubs are with good cultures & I will reel off a list of disturbing incidents…

Every football club has dickheads, always have been, always will be, just like a cross-section of society… the difference is, when they stuff up, it becomes a news story.

Some clubs are better at hiding indiscretions than others, probably the biggest factor in how much bad publicity StKilda gets.

I'm not defending the ridiculous actions of these guys, but I am not surprised either.

footballers ≠ good people

I take your point to some degree -even Sydney and Geelong who seem to have the best cultures have screw ups (2 cats players breaking in to the wrong house). But we seem to have SO MANY of these things. I don't think its a coincidence. And this was a club group situation not a player going rogue which they tend to be at other clubs. We should be aiming higher.

[Johnny Member]

A certain Geelong player physically threatened an elderly woman with a tennis racquet in front of her family at a beach fairly recently.

The family are die hard fans of the club, so they contacted the club directly to complain about it instead of going to the media. The club told them they are aware of his issues and it's not isolated.

This club has won a flag recently. This guy is a hero.



Setting a dwarf on fire, is he was targetted because he's a dwarf, is a s*** thing to do. Pissed or not, it's s***.


But really, if anyone is stupid enough to think this type of thing is a 'St Kilda' thing, they are deadset off their head.



I even have first hand stories about assistant coaches at successful clubs. And I certainly have many stories about players from other clubs. Most of which are from my own experience - not third hand rumours.




So please, be outraged by it. Each to their own. But please don't suggest that this is some sort of St Kilda specific thing.

[dragit]

Brat, I am happy to be proven wrong... but my outrage started from reading this part of the article in the Sun, which absolutely suggests it was premeditated assault, not an accident.

"Physically Blake is ok, but he has been absolutely humiliated." His employers, Dwarf My Party and Professional Championship Wrestling, are demanding answers from the club. PCW wrote on its Facebook page tonight: "Could you please comment on why our on-screen president, known to spectators as Mr. Big, was set on fire during your Mad Monday celebrations?'' A spokesman for PCW said: "We are utterly disgusted by the situation."... "It's not funny to light anybody on fire. Just because he's a midget, some might think it's funny. This is not funny. It's ridiculous. Blake is a top bloke. He is not hired to be humiliated."

Premeditated assault? that the players were also doing to each other? Jail?

I'm contacting the press and offering to give a disability rights perspective on this matter. I am 100% certain on this; I've seen it many times before... this is not just unacceptable; it's not just abuse; it's criminal and its got to be condemned.

Rather than stirring up Neil Mitchell, why don't you contact the club and offer to deliver your perspective there?

To be honest, I can't work out what part of this incident fits into a disabled rights perspective? The hiring of a dwarf wrestler seems pretty odd but… but Blake runs this business so you would assume he is okay with this form of "entertainment"

Setting fire to a persons clothing is unacceptable regardless of stature or disability.

[Johnny Member]

But the clubs with good cultures curtail the extremes of the said wankers - such as setting fire to people (allegedly)

Greatest myth ever… tell me who these clubs are with good cultures & I will reel off a list of disturbing incidents…

Every football club has dickheads, always have been, always will be, just like a cross-section of society… the difference is, when they stuff up, it becomes a news story.

Some clubs are better at hiding indiscretions than others, probably the biggest factor in how much bad publicity StKilda gets.

I'm not defending the ridiculous actions of these guys, but I am not surprised either.

footballers ≠ good people

I take your point to some degree -even Sydney and Geelong who seem to have the best cultures have screw ups (2 cats players breaking in to the wrong house). But we seem to have SO MANY of these things. I don't think its a coincidence. And this was a club group situation not a player going rogue which they tend to be at other clubs. We should be aiming higher.

"The players around him immediately helped him put the fire out and definitely weren't happy with what happened."

[jonesy]

Geelong- Stokes drug possession,Stringer assaulted his mrs, in past two seasons off the top of my head..... wasn't there something else a few months ago also,someone getting arrested in the streets,or was that a former cat.
So please

[maverick]

Geelong- Stokes drug possession,Stringer assaulted his mrs, in past two seasons off the top of my head..... wasn't there something else a few months ago also,someone getting arrested in the streets,or was that a former cat.
So please

Chapman got done as well.

Happens at EVERY club, doesn't make it right, but it happens...

[dragit]

But the clubs with good cultures curtail the extremes of the said wankers - such as setting fire to people (allegedly)

Greatest myth ever… tell me who these clubs are with good cultures & I will reel off a list of disturbing incidents…

Every football club has dickheads, always have been, always will be, just like a cross-section of society… the difference is, when they stuff up, it becomes a news story.

Some clubs are better at hiding indiscretions than others, probably the biggest factor in how much bad publicity StKilda gets.

I'm not defending the ridiculous actions of these guys, but I am not surprised either.

footballers ≠ good people

I take your point to some degree -even Sydney and Geelong who seem to have the best cultures have screw ups (2 cats players breaking in to the wrong house). But we seem to have SO MANY of these things. I don't think its a coincidence. And this was a club group situation not a player going rogue which they tend to be at other clubs. We should be aiming higher.

I reckon Sydney players could get away with a lot more as barely anyone would recognise them up there…

Geelong have had so many incidents it's not funny… Chapman punching a woman in the face, punching a man in a pub, Johnson breaking into closed pub, speeding while drinking? 2 players performing a mock armed robbery on the wrong house WTF? The others mentioned above - stokes, stringer - amazing culture - my arse.

The Collingwood list is too long to even type out… Holland, Didak X3, Shaw X3, Swan, Beams X2, Maxwell, Cloke, Krakour, Johnson, Williams… just off the top of my head that we have heard of.

I won't go on, but every club has them, some are better at hiding the incidents.

Some of our players deserve a whack for lighting up clothing, it's ridiculous thing to do… personally sounds like a stupid prank gone bad & although I haven't seen something like that in the past… I've seen plenty of other nasty stuff go on when a bunch of blokes get drunk together.

[Life Long Saint]

What sort of occasion would you hire a dwarf for just out of curiosity?

A quest to Mount Doom in Mordor ??

That's just ridiculous...Everyone knows that's a job for a Hobbit.

[matrix]

just remember that the next time roo asks for a lighter its not to have a sneaky cone at the back of the pub

[Johnny Member]

Geelong- Stokes drug possession,Stringer assaulted his mrs, in past two seasons off the top of my head..... wasn't there something else a few months ago also,someone getting arrested in the streets,or was that a former cat.
So please

Chapman got done as well.

Happens at EVERY club, doesn't make it right, but it happens...

Exactly.

If people are shocked and appalled by footballers behaving badly - then frankly you're following the wrong sport.

[saintbrat]

I'm contacting the press and offering to give a disability rights perspective on this matter. I am 100% certain on this; I've seen it many times before... this is not just unacceptable; it's not just abuse; it's criminal and its got to be condemned.

Mark why would you not just contact the club?
They DID Not go out on the street and pick up a small person to play wiyh
They DID NOT pour fluid over him and set him alight,

The gentleman concerned was earning a living performing in costume

I am saddened you feel the need to drag a prank into social injustice
As some have sad overreaction got us a 12 month non pregnancy

[markinUSA]

It's not a prank; it's a crime.

[dragit]

It's not a prank; it's a crime.

I think you even called it a hate crime…

But it sounds like the players were doing it to each other, so was there a series of hate crimes?

[Life Long Saint]

It's not a prank; it's a crime.

What is the charge then?

[SainterK]

Only thing the Saints have set fire to all year.

So we are all shocked that footballers aren't Einstiens

And even more shocked they do massively stupid things when full of ink.

Fkn idiotic, but why are so many suprised?

People aren't surprised, because its the saints, that's the issue for many.

[dragit]

"The victim sustained minor injuries as a result of the prank."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-02/d ... p-by-saint

[joffaboy]

It's not a prank; it's a crime.

Are you a policeman?

I think markp's comments were fair enough though, if it is too early to go off half cocked about crimes, it is also too early to make pathetic dwarf jokes.

Fair enough, for my part i apologise and wont make any more dumb jokes.

Some will defend the club no matter what, some will jump to conclusions about crimes etc even without evidence, some will read the report and think, bunch of <redacted>head, brain dead footballers playing with matches FFS.

So be it.

[saintbrat]

And guess where Arthur and his friend will be on Thursday..........

[joffaboy]

I think he should get compensated, at least for his shirt and pants.

"He's a performer who relies on his self-esteem and confidence to be able to perform at events like this," a Professional Championship Wrestling spokesperson told the program.

Blake was humiliated and left immediately.

But will still get around dressed like this



Pay day for Mr Blake one suspects