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B.M wrote: ↑Sun 20 Oct 2024 6:42pm
The bar staff was there to do a job
No make judgement on what was happening
Unless they were forced to participate in the frivolities
What a ridiculous thing to say, so it’s open slather on people doing their job in the service industry, you can do/say whatever you like in front of them and they just have to cop it? And they weren’t the judges, the AFL was.
The context is everything, this is a work event, not people going to see a comedy show.
Wasn’t a work event.
1000% a work event. Not even debatable.
Footy trips Mad Monday etc are player organised events.
Yep, and doesn’t change the fact it’s a work event.
If you and your team at work decide to go out to dinner for a Christmas party, that is a work event.
If you go out for after work drinks with 8 people from your office, that’s a work event.
You’ve been out of the loop for too long Curly.
Can’t do rape skits at a work event, pretty simple.
No, no it’s not.
As I said, not even debatable. Talk to a workplace lawyer. I have to do this training regularly, it’s black and white, 100% a work event, whether you like it or not.
A Christmas party organised for staff yes.
A group of staff going out on their own accord is not.
So ... I get invited to the pub by people from work - and decide to attend with no pants on ... do you think HR might call me into the office on Monday?
Exaggerated for effect.
“Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but stupid lasts forever.”
― Aristophanes
If you have a Bee in your Bonnet - I can assist you with that - but it WILL involve some smacking upside the head!
B.M wrote: ↑Sun 20 Oct 2024 6:42pm
The bar staff was there to do a job
No make judgement on what was happening
Unless they were forced to participate in the frivolities
What a ridiculous thing to say, so it’s open slather on people doing their job in the service industry, you can do/say whatever you like in front of them and they just have to cop it? And they weren’t the judges, the AFL was.
The context is everything, this is a work event, not people going to see a comedy show.
Wasn’t a work event.
1000% a work event. Not even debatable.
Footy trips Mad Monday etc are player organised events.
Yep, and doesn’t change the fact it’s a work event.
If you and your team at work decide to go out to dinner for a Christmas party, that is a work event.
If you go out for after work drinks with 8 people from your office, that’s a work event.
You’ve been out of the loop for too long Curly.
Can’t do rape skits at a work event, pretty simple.
No, no it’s not.
As I said, not even debatable. Talk to a workplace lawyer. I have to do this training regularly, it’s black and white, 100% a work event, whether you like it or not.
A Christmas party organised for staff yes.
A group of staff going out on their own accord is not.
So ... I get invited to the pub by people from work - and decide to attend with no pants on ... do you think HR might call me into the office on Monday?
B.M wrote: ↑Sun 20 Oct 2024 6:42pm
The bar staff was there to do a job
No make judgement on what was happening
Unless they were forced to participate in the frivolities
What a ridiculous thing to say, so it’s open slather on people doing their job in the service industry, you can do/say whatever you like in front of them and they just have to cop it? And they weren’t the judges, the AFL was.
The context is everything, this is a work event, not people going to see a comedy show.
Wasn’t a work event.
1000% a work event. Not even debatable.
Footy trips Mad Monday etc are player organised events.
Yep, and doesn’t change the fact it’s a work event.
If you and your team at work decide to go out to dinner for a Christmas party, that is a work event.
If you go out for after work drinks with 8 people from your office, that’s a work event.
You’ve been out of the loop for too long Curly.
Can’t do rape skits at a work event, pretty simple.
No, no it’s not.
As I said, not even debatable. Talk to a workplace lawyer. I have to do this training regularly, it’s black and white, 100% a work event, whether you like it or not.
A Christmas party organised for staff yes.
A group of staff going out on their own accord is not.
So ... I get invited to the pub by people from work - and decide to attend with no pants on ... do you think HR might call me into the office on Monday?
The fact it’s a workplace event isn’t an opinion, or what you feel it should be, it’s the law. If some of you have been out of the ‘corporate’ loop for too long then you’ve got some catching up to do.
Are rape skits appropriate at a work event? That’s where the opinion and debate is, and the AFL made it pretty clear where they stand.
All posters are equal, but some posters are more equal than others.
Did the General manager send an email out inviting all staff did the PA book the event under GWS Giants Football Club. Were the meals and grog paid for by the club?
I’m sure the club knew but it’s not a work or club function.
I know you’re wrong a lot Curly, but you don’t have to be, you can avoid the repeated embarrassment, Google is right there.
What constitutes the "workplace"?
Employers owe employees a duty of care to ensure their safety and wellbeing, so far as is reasonably practicable. It is undisputed that this duty of care extends beyond the four walls of the office.
It also extends to any place where functions are carried out in connection with work and includes situations that are outside normal working hours, such as end-of-year parties. In some cases, the workplace can include an after-party or after-work drinks, even if unsanctioned by the employer.
Your example is fantastic only that it doesn’t apply to what has happened here. Groups of work colleagues organising on their own behalf to catch up is not the managers or employees responsibility.
Ridiculous that you’re trying to suggest other wise.
So ... I get invited to the pub by people from work - and decide to attend with no pants on ... do you think HR might call me into the office on Monday?
Exaggerated for effect.
What do you mean, "Exaggerated for effect.", Sainter Dad?
"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about."
CURLY wrote: ↑Sun 20 Oct 2024 9:47pm
Your example is fantastic only that it doesn’t apply to what has happened here. Groups of work colleagues organising on their own behalf to catch up is not the managers or employees responsibility.
Ridiculous that you’re trying to suggest other wise.
C'mon Curly, let's get back to debating about how you can't say anything in comedy anymore, that at least has some room for interpretation.
As much as you want keep repeating 'Nuh-uh', an event that was at one point attended by players, coaches and other staff isnt up for question about if it was a work event.
CURLY wrote: ↑Sun 20 Oct 2024 9:47pm
Your example is fantastic only that it doesn’t apply to what has happened here. Groups of work colleagues organising on their own behalf to catch up is not the managers or employees responsibility.
Ridiculous that you’re trying to suggest other wise.
Tell that to the recruits at the Victoria Police Academy who got sprung organizing an orgy, off campus. Gone.
"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about."
CURLY wrote: ↑Sun 20 Oct 2024 9:47pm
Your example is fantastic only that it doesn’t apply to what has happened here. Groups of work colleagues organising on their own behalf to catch up is not the managers or employees responsibility.
Ridiculous that you’re trying to suggest other wise.
C'mon Curly, let's get back to debating about how you can't say anything in comedy anymore, that at least has some room for interpretation.
As much as you want keep repeating 'Nuh-uh', an event that was at one point attended by players, coaches and other staff isnt up for question about if it was a work event.
CURLY wrote: ↑Sun 20 Oct 2024 9:47pm
Your example is fantastic only that it doesn’t apply to what has happened here. Groups of work colleagues organising on their own behalf to catch up is not the managers or employees responsibility.
Ridiculous that you’re trying to suggest other wise.
the workplace can include an after-party or after-work drinks, even if unsanctioned by the employer.
Thats fine, you can go full Trump and deny facts that are plain-as-day. Your comprehension skills clearly aren’t up to it, we can just continue the conversation without you
All posters are equal, but some posters are more equal than others.
CURLY wrote: ↑Sun 20 Oct 2024 9:47pm
Your example is fantastic only that it doesn’t apply to what has happened here. Groups of work colleagues organising on their own behalf to catch up is not the managers or employees responsibility.
Ridiculous that you’re trying to suggest other wise.
the workplace can include an after-party or after-work drinks, even if unsanctioned by the employer.
Thats fine, you can go full Trump and deny facts that are plain-as-day. Your comprehension skills clearly aren’t up to it, we can just continue the conversation without you
After work drinks yes leaving work and going out is different. Employees organising to catch up on weekends or going on trips together is not.
CURLY wrote: ↑Sun 20 Oct 2024 9:47pm
Your example is fantastic only that it doesn’t apply to what has happened here. Groups of work colleagues organising on their own behalf to catch up is not the managers or employees responsibility.
Ridiculous that you’re trying to suggest other wise.
the workplace can include an after-party or after-work drinks, even if unsanctioned by the employer.
Thats fine, you can go full Trump and deny facts that are plain-as-day. Your comprehension skills clearly aren’t up to it, we can just continue the conversation without you
After work drinks yes leaving work and going out is different. Employees organising to catch up on weekends or going on trips together is not.
Employers must be aware that establishments outside the workplace can still be considered such if there is sufficient connection to work and work colleagues.
Just stop embarrassing yourself Curly.
All posters are equal, but some posters are more equal than others.
The longer this goes on and the more Curly just refuses to admit maybe he doesn’t know why this could possibly fall under a work function, despite everyone trying to explain the actual rules, the more I am convinced he is an extraordinarily committed troll who knows exactly what he is doing.
amusingname wrote: ↑Sun 20 Oct 2024 10:40pm
The longer this goes on and the more Curly just refuses to admit maybe he doesn’t know why this could possibly fall under a work function, despite everyone trying to explain the actual rules, the more I am convinced he is an extraordinarily committed troll who knows exactly what he is doing.
The quote below is how he started this whole thread.
If curly says something, he'll never renege or say he might have been wrong.
Private party
His words are like the bible. There's no going back to do edits. He is extraordinarily committed even if there's fairy tales involved
CURLY wrote: ↑Sun 20 Oct 2024 9:47pm
Your example is fantastic only that it doesn’t apply to what has happened here. Groups of work colleagues organising on their own behalf to catch up is not the managers or employees responsibility.
Ridiculous that you’re trying to suggest other wise.
the workplace can include an after-party or after-work drinks, even if unsanctioned by the employer.
Thats fine, you can go full Trump and deny facts that are plain-as-day. Your comprehension skills clearly aren’t up to it, we can just continue the conversation without you
After work drinks yes leaving work and going out is different. Employees organising to catch up on weekends or going on trips together is not.
Employers must be aware that establishments outside the workplace can still be considered such if there is sufficient connection to work and work colleagues.
Just stop embarrassing yourself Curly.
Just about to go in and sack 12 employees. Six went on a hens night 6 on a bucks weekend. Heard there were strippers at each.
CURLY wrote: ↑Sun 20 Oct 2024 9:47pm
Your example is fantastic only that it doesn’t apply to what has happened here. Groups of work colleagues organising on their own behalf to catch up is not the managers or employees responsibility.
Ridiculous that you’re trying to suggest other wise.
the workplace can include an after-party or after-work drinks, even if unsanctioned by the employer.
Thats fine, you can go full Trump and deny facts that are plain-as-day. Your comprehension skills clearly aren’t up to it, we can just continue the conversation without you
After work drinks yes leaving work and going out is different. Employees organising to catch up on weekends or going on trips together is not.
Employers must be aware that establishments outside the workplace can still be considered such if there is sufficient connection to work and work colleagues.
Just stop embarrassing yourself Curly.
Just about to go in and sack 12 employees. Six went on a hens night 6 on a bucks weekend. Heard there were strippers at each.
Were they at the strippers and hens night clearly identified (and probably booked) as part of Curly’s company and were they doing skits involving sex dolls, 9/11 and slavery?
The gws players haven’t been sanctioned for having a party, it was what happened there. Same as if an employee harasses another at after work drinks, it becomes a workplace issue
CURLY wrote: ↑Sun 20 Oct 2024 9:47pm
Your example is fantastic only that it doesn’t apply to what has happened here. Groups of work colleagues organising on their own behalf to catch up is not the managers or employees responsibility.
Ridiculous that you’re trying to suggest other wise.
the workplace can include an after-party or after-work drinks, even if unsanctioned by the employer.
Thats fine, you can go full Trump and deny facts that are plain-as-day. Your comprehension skills clearly aren’t up to it, we can just continue the conversation without you
After work drinks yes leaving work and going out is different. Employees organising to catch up on weekends or going on trips together is not.
Employers must be aware that establishments outside the workplace can still be considered such if there is sufficient connection to work and work colleagues.
Just stop embarrassing yourself Curly.
Just about to go in and sack 12 employees. Six went on a hens night 6 on a bucks weekend. Heard there were strippers at each.
Were they at the strippers and hens night clearly identified (and probably booked) as part of Curly’s company and were they doing skits involving sex dolls, 9/11 and slavery?
The gws players haven’t been sanctioned for having a party, it was what happened there. Same as if an employee harasses another at after work drinks, it becomes a workplace issue
CURLY wrote: ↑Sun 20 Oct 2024 9:47pm
Your example is fantastic only that it doesn’t apply to what has happened here. Groups of work colleagues organising on their own behalf to catch up is not the managers or employees responsibility.
Ridiculous that you’re trying to suggest other wise.
the workplace can include an after-party or after-work drinks, even if unsanctioned by the employer.
Thats fine, you can go full Trump and deny facts that are plain-as-day. Your comprehension skills clearly aren’t up to it, we can just continue the conversation without you
After work drinks yes leaving work and going out is different. Employees organising to catch up on weekends or going on trips together is not.
Employers must be aware that establishments outside the workplace can still be considered such if there is sufficient connection to work and work colleagues.
Just stop embarrassing yourself Curly.
Just about to go in and sack 12 employees. Six went on a hens night 6 on a bucks weekend. Heard there were strippers at each.
Were they at the strippers and hens night clearly identified (and probably booked) as part of Curly’s company and were they doing skits involving sex dolls, 9/11 and slavery?
The gws players haven’t been sanctioned for having a party, it was what happened there. Same as if an employee harasses another at after work drinks, it becomes a workplace issue
Theres a huge difference.
Just admit you don’t understand the rules, it’s okay.
Didn’t know if I go out for drinks with colleagues- I’m still at work?
Don't worry these morons can't distinguish between a work sanctioned event and work mates catching up.
You know the people trying to explain it to you haven’t made the rules, they just know how it is viewed now. You seem to be living in the past. But yep, we are morons.
CURLY wrote: ↑Sun 20 Oct 2024 9:47pm
Your example is fantastic only that it doesn’t apply to what has happened here. Groups of work colleagues organising on their own behalf to catch up is not the managers or employees responsibility.
Ridiculous that you’re trying to suggest other wise.
the workplace can include an after-party or after-work drinks, even if unsanctioned by the employer.
Thats fine, you can go full Trump and deny facts that are plain-as-day. Your comprehension skills clearly aren’t up to it, we can just continue the conversation without you
After work drinks yes leaving work and going out is different. Employees organising to catch up on weekends or going on trips together is not.
Employers must be aware that establishments outside the workplace can still be considered such if there is sufficient connection to work and work colleagues.
Just stop embarrassing yourself Curly.
Just about to go in and sack 12 employees. Six went on a hens night 6 on a bucks weekend. Heard there were strippers at each.
Were they at the strippers and hens night clearly identified (and probably booked) as part of Curly’s company and were they doing skits involving sex dolls, 9/11 and slavery?
The gws players haven’t been sanctioned for having a party, it was what happened there. Same as if an employee harasses another at after work drinks, it becomes a workplace issue
Theres a huge difference.
Just admit you don’t understand the rules, it’s okay.
The issue is I do know the rules.
That's why they have adults in managerial roles not petulant sooks.
