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Re: Sack the Coach (revisited)

Post: # 1737567Post samoht »

AR is coaching a team with a multiple of average ruckmen, a multiple of average inside midfielders, a multiple of half back flankers, a multiple of average smalls (except for Gresham)--- and a total lack of skilled outside midfielders/runners.
A team, which when Steven is tagged out of the game, has no outside run at all.

Apart from the random recruiting - we also have had to deal with injuries, etc..

Unless AR was responsible for the recruiting, I can't blame him for where we are at, at the moment - and I don't think a coaching change will fix anything.

We definitely need better recruiters. We are where we're at because of poor recruiting - we needed classy outside midfielders, but kept recruiting average inside midfielder after average inside midfielder, instead.


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Re: Sack the Coach (revisited)

Post: # 1737570Post DJ Higgins »

As per most I think he is not cut out for being an AFL coach. I don't buy the we only have average players excuse simply because it is up to the coach to get the best out of the players and if you have an average coach you get average players. He doesn't have game plans that suit the players or that evolve with what is happening on the field.

We fell ass backwards over the line against one of the worst teams going around so the stay of execution will be for a few weeks. When Melbourne towel us up and then Port Adelaide the media will be back for his head. I hope we are in talks with other coaches especially Clarkson as a plan B. Something Richo doesn't


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Re: Sack the Coach (revisited)

Post: # 1737576Post tony74 »

Impatient Sainter wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 10:14am
suss wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 9:55am
Impatient Sainter wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 9:13am
tony74 wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 9:28pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 8:23pm
Teflon wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 6:57pm Cmon new ticket!!!
No Thomas though...
Agree. I will be praying for a new board if thats the only way we get rid of Richo. The only Assistants I would keep on are Hamill & Playfair.

Hopefully the club are currently trying to attract replacements at present.
Always on the lookout, an ex Saint by all accounts is very very good.
Would love to welcome Banger home! He would be a great addition as a midfield coach - although he has had a pretty good group to work with at the Pies.

Surely he would be more attractive to work with for Free Agents than the current.
Maybe X Clarke?
Get them both & Lenny & Kosi who are both working with GWS. Get some RB&W heritage flowing throw the place again.
Unfortunately you’re all wrong. A bit of a surprise packet is an ex Sainter.


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Re: Sack the Coach (revisited)

Post: # 1737578Post The Craw »

tony74 wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 2:00pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 10:14am
suss wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 9:55am
Impatient Sainter wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 9:13am
tony74 wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 9:28pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 8:23pm
Teflon wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 6:57pm Cmon new ticket!!!
No Thomas though...
Agree. I will be praying for a new board if thats the only way we get rid of Richo. The only Assistants I would keep on are Hamill & Playfair.

Hopefully the club are currently trying to attract replacements at present.
Always on the lookout, an ex Saint by all accounts is very very good.
Would love to welcome Banger home! He would be a great addition as a midfield coach - although he has had a pretty good group to work with at the Pies.

Surely he would be more attractive to work with for Free Agents than the current.
Maybe X Clarke?
Get them both & Lenny & Kosi who are both working with GWS. Get some RB&W heritage flowing throw the place again.
Unfortunately you’re all wrong. A bit of a surprise packet is an ex Sainter.
Justin Plapp :wink:


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Re: Sack the Coach (revisited)

Post: # 1737579Post Crossy66 »

tony74 wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 2:00pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 10:14am
suss wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 9:55am
Impatient Sainter wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 9:13am
tony74 wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 9:28pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 8:23pm
Teflon wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 6:57pm Cmon new ticket!!!
No Thomas though...
Agree. I will be praying for a new board if thats the only way we get rid of Richo. The only Assistants I would keep on are Hamill & Playfair.

Hopefully the club are currently trying to attract replacements at present.
Always on the lookout, an ex Saint by all accounts is very very good.
Would love to welcome Banger home! He would be a great addition as a midfield coach - although he has had a pretty good group to work with at the Pies.

Surely he would be more attractive to work with for Free Agents than the current.
Maybe X Clarke?
Get them both & Lenny & Kosi who are both working with GWS. Get some RB&W heritage flowing throw the place again.
Unfortunately you’re all wrong. A bit of a surprise packet is an ex Sainter.
Tony can you give us a "minny" clue?


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Re: Sack the Coach (revisited)

Post: # 1737580Post tony74 »

Crossy66 wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 2:25pm
tony74 wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 2:00pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 10:14am
suss wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 9:55am
Impatient Sainter wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 9:13am
tony74 wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 9:28pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 8:23pm
Teflon wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 6:57pm Cmon new ticket!!!
No Thomas though...
Agree. I will be praying for a new board if thats the only way we get rid of Richo. The only Assistants I would keep on are Hamill & Playfair.

Hopefully the club are currently trying to attract replacements at present.
Always on the lookout, an ex Saint by all accounts is very very good.
Would love to welcome Banger home! He would be a great addition as a midfield coach - although he has had a pretty good group to work with at the Pies.

Surely he would be more attractive to work with for Free Agents than the current.
Maybe X Clarke?
Get them both & Lenny & Kosi who are both working with GWS. Get some RB&W heritage flowing throw the place again.
Unfortunately you’re all wrong. A bit of a surprise packet is an ex Sainter.
Tony can you give us a "minny" clue?
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Re: Sack the Coach (revisited)

Post: # 1737581Post Mr Magic »

tony74 wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 2:00pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 10:14am
suss wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 9:55am
Impatient Sainter wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 9:13am
tony74 wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 9:28pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 8:23pm
Teflon wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 6:57pm Cmon new ticket!!!
No Thomas though...
Agree. I will be praying for a new board if thats the only way we get rid of Richo. The only Assistants I would keep on are Hamill & Playfair.

Hopefully the club are currently trying to attract replacements at present.
Always on the lookout, an ex Saint by all accounts is very very good.
Would love to welcome Banger home! He would be a great addition as a midfield coach - although he has had a pretty good group to work with at the Pies.

Surely he would be more attractive to work with for Free Agents than the current.
Maybe X Clarke?
Get them both & Lenny & Kosi who are both working with GWS. Get some RB&W heritage flowing throw the place again.
Unfortunately you’re all wrong. A bit of a surprise packet is an ex Sainter.
Andrew McQualter?


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Re: Sack the Coach (revisited)

Post: # 1737582Post Crossy66 »

Mr Magic wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 2:27pm
tony74 wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 2:00pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 10:14am
suss wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 9:55am
Impatient Sainter wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 9:13am
tony74 wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 9:28pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 8:23pm
Teflon wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 6:57pm Cmon new ticket!!!
No Thomas though...
Agree. I will be praying for a new board if thats the only way we get rid of Richo. The only Assistants I would keep on are Hamill & Playfair.

Hopefully the club are currently trying to attract replacements at present.
Always on the lookout, an ex Saint by all accounts is very very good.
Would love to welcome Banger home! He would be a great addition as a midfield coach - although he has had a pretty good group to work with at the Pies.

Surely he would be more attractive to work with for Free Agents than the current.
Maybe X Clarke?
Get them both & Lenny & Kosi who are both working with GWS. Get some RB&W heritage flowing throw the place again.
Unfortunately you’re all wrong. A bit of a surprise packet is an ex Sainter.
Andrew McQualter?
No idea, but was tigers development coach and i think current midfield coach, so would be a solid pick up. probably also fits the "surprise packet" description


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Re: Sack the Coach (revisited)

Post: # 1737585Post saynta »

tony74 wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 2:27pm
Crossy66 wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 2:25pm
tony74 wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 2:00pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 10:14am
suss wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 9:55am
Impatient Sainter wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 9:13am
tony74 wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 9:28pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 8:23pm
Teflon wrote: Mon 18 Jun 2018 6:57pm Cmon new ticket!!!
No Thomas though...
Agree. I will be praying for a new board if thats the only way we get rid of Richo. The only Assistants I would keep on are Hamill & Playfair.

Hopefully the club are currently trying to attract replacements at present.
Always on the lookout, an ex Saint by all accounts is very very good.
Would love to welcome Banger home! He would be a great addition as a midfield coach - although he has had a pretty good group to work with at the Pies.

Surely he would be more attractive to work with for Free Agents than the current.
Maybe X Clarke?
Get them both & Lenny & Kosi who are both working with GWS. Get some RB&W heritage flowing throw the place again.
Unfortunately you’re all wrong. A bit of a surprise packet is an ex Sainter.
Tony can you give us a "minny" clue?
:D
Gottcha. :wink:


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Re: Sack the Coach (revisited)

Post: # 1737589Post Scollop »

samoht wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 12:36pm AR is coaching a team with a multiple of average ruckmen, a multiple of average inside midfielders, a multiple of half back flankers, a multiple of average smalls (except for Gresham)--- and a total lack of skilled outside midfielders/runners.
A team, which when Steven is tagged out of the game, has no outside run at all.

Apart from the random recruiting - we also have had to deal with injuries, etc..

Unless AR was responsible for the recruiting, I can't blame him for where we are at, at the moment - and I don't think a coaching change will fix anything.

We definitely need better recruiters. We are where we're at because of poor recruiting - we needed classy outside midfielders, but kept recruiting average inside midfielder after average inside midfielder, instead.
When the head coach has been around for 5 years maybe he has some say in the list, wouldn't you think? Found an article which gives evidence that perhaps our current list is exactly what Richo wants...

https://themongrelpunt.com/afl/2018/4/2 ... t-st-kilda


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Re: Sack the Coach (revisited)

Post: # 1737612Post Teflon »

Richo is part of the over rate the list brigade - for that alone he ought to walk
I’m not convinced by him at all


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Re: Sack the Coach (revisited)

Post: # 1737615Post saynta »

Teflon wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 7:04pm Richo is part of the over rate the list brigade - for that alone he ought to walk
I’m not convinced by him at all
And you're a female. Nearly pissed myself myself laughing when you posted that.

That puts a completely different light on your past mocking posts.

Bahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Richo is not going anywhere if the current board has any say in it.


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Post: # 1737644Post Teflon »

saynta wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 7:14pm
Teflon wrote: Tue 19 Jun 2018 7:04pm Richo is part of the over rate the list brigade - for that alone he ought to walk
I’m not convinced by him at all
And you're a female. Nearly pissed myself myself laughing when you posted that.

That puts a completely different light on your past mocking posts.

Bahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Richo is not going anywhere if the current board has any say in it.
Why do you have a problem with females?
You keep bringing it up - is their an underlying issue of Freudian nature we need to know about?
What an odd creature...


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SRS - Save Richo's Skin!


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Post: # 1744309Post MC Gusto »

How the F has he not been sacked yet? Honest wuestion


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Post: # 1744315Post Faulky63 »

Any interest in possibly getting Blake Caracella to our club?


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Post: # 1744318Post spert »

I want to see a challenge to the president and board- this current crowd have parked the Saints bus up some dirt road instead of barrelling along the highway. They put the wheels in motion which saw various dud appointments including AR as coach- and the coach has failed badly. If the club want's bums on seats next season, want families to buy memberships, want's kids to pull on Saints jumpers, then some big changes and some big sacrifices will need to be made at the end of this season.


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Post: # 1744323Post tony74 »

Next week all the coaches will know where they stand.


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tony74 wrote: Wed 25 Jul 2018 9:36pm Next week all the coaches will know where they stand.
Cool.

I hope CUB have been advised to prepare a big delivery for many farewells


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Post: # 1744329Post longtimesaint »

There is the small problem of having someone better to replace them with.


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Post: # 1744330Post rodgerfox »

Without being one of these grandstand heroes that declares war on people's professional ability without knowing the actual ins and outs of what they're actually employed to do....

....after 8 years at the club, the decision makers better have a very good explanation as to why Kingsley is adding value if he stays.

From the outside, there's certainly no evidence to suggest that he is.


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Post: # 1744331Post rodgerfox »

longtimesaint wrote: Wed 25 Jul 2018 10:52pm There is the small problem of having someone better to replace them with.
Agreed.

However it can't be worse than it is now.

But I agree, sacking the wrong people just for the sake of it would be a disaster.

But clearly, what's in place now does not work. So whomever is the King maker at the club right now, better f****** get it right.


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Post: # 1744332Post Jacks Back »

rodgerfox wrote: Wed 25 Jul 2018 10:56pm
longtimesaint wrote: Wed 25 Jul 2018 10:52pm There is the small problem of having someone better to replace them with.
Agreed.

However it can't be worse than it is now.

But I agree, sacking the wrong people just for the sake of it would be a disaster.

But clearly, what's in place now does not work. So whomever is the King maker at the club right now, better f****** get it right.
If the assistant coaches are going then (due to his contract) richo stays another year (or two). Who would want to come to a club as an assistant coach when the senior coach could get sacked in 12 months time and all the upheaval that would cause?


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Post: # 1744335Post BackFromUSA »

We have a chance to bring someone in as Senior Assistant on big money if we re-jig the assistants contacts and roles.

This senior assistant should be told that they will become Senior Coach in 2020 and Richo will become Coaching Director.

For 2019 and 2020 they should work together to rebuild the game plan based on the current list and changing laws.

I would be appointing Brett Ratten as that senior assistant. Chopped at Carlton too early. Been brilliant at Hawthorn.

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Post: # 1744340Post st.byron »

BackFromUSA wrote: Wed 25 Jul 2018 11:20pm We have a chance to bring someone in as Senior Assistant on big money if we re-jig the assistants contacts and roles.

This senior assistant should be told that they will become Senior Coach in 2020 and Richo will become Coaching Director.

For 2019 and 2020 they should work together to rebuild the game plan based on the current list and changing laws.

I would be appointing Brett Ratten as that senior assistant. Chopped at Carlton too early. Been brilliant at Hawthorn.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Rat ... ing_career
Why on earth do you want to keep Richardson? What do you see in him? Appears to me, and from what I’ve been told, to lack leadership. He’s had five years and we are going backwards. Keep him as Coaching Director??????.?.?


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