VFL Rd 3 Sandringham VS Nth Ballarat

[PJ]

Give it a rest FB. There's enough cr*p without taking sides.

[plugger66]

i dont think the main culprit is up yet

BM gives his own opinion...there is one particular tossa on here (favourite of some) who continually lies

Name names. I dont know many who continually lie. Im sure you have many examples for such a statement otherwise its just your normal rubbish. You are at consistent. Pity you dont say much at all.

[Freebird]

stanley for fletcher!

who came came up with that pearler?

Nobody.


And nobody compared White to Buddy. he had one passage of play two years ago where he took a mark played on three bounces and kicked the goal, some said it was Buddy like.

Nobody ever said he was the new Buddy

Please Joffa, If you do not know don't make provocative statements just to ridicule another you dislike


The next Buddy?
Ben Collins October 16, 2012 4:49 PM

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Spencer White has been compared to Lance Franklin
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WATCH highlights of Spencer White above on PTV

A LEFT-FOOTED key forward who has been likened to Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin looms as a dark horse in this year's NAB AFL Draft.

Western Jets spearhead Spencer White - the runner-up in the TAC Cup goalkicking award this year after tallying 36.12 in 16 games - is regarded as a raw but rare athlete who can run like the wind, take skyscraping marks and slot brilliant goals.

White's highlights package is certain to cause excitement among fans and perhaps recruiters alike.

A minor health problem contributed to an inconsistent start to the season, but White's draft prospects have surged in recent months.

The 195cm/90kg power forward wasn't among the original list of 100-odd invitees for the NAB AFL Draft Combine earlier this month, but received a late call-up and posted some impressive results, winning the running vertical jump (coming within 2cm of the all-time record shared by Nic Naitanui and Jared Brennan) and finishing third in the standing vertical jump.

[ Related: Top 20 draft prospects ]

These efforts followed his strong finish to the TAC Cup season and also reinforced his much-sought-after capacity to be a back-up ruckman.

One of the draft's best-kept secrets was out. Eight clubs interviewed White at the combine.

Industry sources suggest White (who turned 18 just last month) could be snapped up as early as a pick in the 20s, and as late as the 70s. The latter would appear a genuine steal for a youngster who - according to his Jets coach, former Western Bulldogs defender Steve Kretiuk - has the potential to be a star.

"There were some really good forwards who played in the TAC Cup this year but Spence has got a lot more in his favour," Kretiuk told AFL.com.au.

"He's really dynamic, he's got genuine X factor, and he's got a lot of attributes that most players haven’t got.

"He'll take a couple of years to physically and mentally get up to AFL standard, but once he matures he's going to be a pretty exciting player. He certainly excited us this year.

"His highlights package would be unbelievable. Some of the things he did reminded me of Buddy Franklin. Tall, quick, left foot, take 'em on - very much like Buddy."

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Kretiuk said White had kicked "three or four" goals like the brilliant double Franklin slotted from the boundary after bouncing runs against Essendon in round 13, 2010. And, Kretiuk added, White isn't burdened by the "Buddy (kicking) arc".

"Spence's speed, especially for his size, is a real asset, and he backs himself in a fair bit," he said. "He's also got a great natural leap. He took marks from four and five-deep in packs, sitting on blokes' shoulders.

"He's really hard to beat. He can create things out of nothing."

White admits the Franklin comparison - which he has heard several times - is daunting, but realises such talk is beyond his control.

"It doesn’t mean anything until I play in the AFL," he told AFL.com.au.

Of his eye-catching playing style, the Melbourne High School student said: "I try to run and create. I probably did it too much at times, and the coaches told me off when it didn’t work out. But they were happy when it worked."

In contrast with the excitement surrounding his football potential, White's story is also one of sadness.

His father Kerry Crouch - a good local footballer who also represented Victoria in hockey - died suddenly just four years ago.

"Dad had a real impact on my life and my football," he said. "It would be great to [get drafted] for him. It's not my only motivation, but it's a big driving factor."

An only child, the then 14-year-old White and his mother Debra moved from Melbourne's northern-eastern suburbs to Williamstown in the west for a fresh start.

Sport (football and basketball) became an even greater outlet.

After earlier stints with the Research and Macleod junior footy clubs, White was rejected by Williamstown Juniors (the same club as Western Jets teammate Lachie Hunter, who has joined the Bulldogs as a father-son selection) because they already had enough players. Instead, he played for Spotswood.

Last year White played 10 games (for 10 goals) with the Jets. But early this season an AFL career appeared little more than a pipedream. In five games he'd kicked just seven goals (including five in one match) and, by his own admission, was "really struggling". It was no surprise when he didn’t make the Vic Metro squad.

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Kretiuk says White had two major issues at the time: he was severely lacking in endurance, and often chose the wrong time to jump for marks.

White appeared unable, or unwilling, to make multiple efforts. His excuse was that he couldn’t run because he couldn’t breathe. It was a source of frustration for both parties. Amazingly, tests revealed that White was using just 60 per cent of his lung capacity.

He has had asthma all his life but it had flared to such an extent that a specialist placed him on stronger medication to keep it under control. Consequently, his health, stamina and form improved dramatically.

"I'd often done things in patches but suddenly I started to string a few games together and became a lot more consistent," he said. "It changed everything for me."

His decision-making also became sharper when he heeded his coaches' urgings to simply focus on the basics. Ironically, the more he did this, the more the dashes, marks and goals flowed. In the last 10 rounds he kicked 29.8, including eight multiple-goal efforts.

Despite the rising expectations, White is doing his best to remain level-headed. He's "not too fussed" which club drafts him, or when, as long as he gets a chance.

But, "just in case it doesn’t work out", he has a contingency plan - a real estate course. However, many suspect that on draft day he'll be hot property.
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[joffaboy]

So one scout says he has "Buddy like" attributes.

Big deal, did he say he was the NEW BUDDY FRANKLIN?????

Fair dinkum your slavish defence of BigMart is a little creepy. Are you in love with him or something?

Find me one person that has stated White is the new Buddy Franklin?

Are you people so obtuse and lacking in insight that people use attributes to give others who have not seen a player and idea of how they look when playing?

I said that Newness reminds me a bit like Dal and moves a bit like Simon Black, so according to you and your weird way of seeing things, I am suddenly saying Newness is the new Dl Santo or Black??????

fair Dinkum, instead of lurking this forum and stalking every post I make defeding your hero, try an opinion on the game just once.

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Does BM know your love for him yet?

[kosifantutti]

So one scout says he has "Buddy like" attributes.

Big deal, did he say he was the NEW BUDDY FRANKLIN?????

Fair dinkum your slavish defence of BigMart is a little creepy. Are you in love with him or something?

Find me one person that has stated White is the new Buddy Franklin?

Are you people so obtuse and lacking in insight that people use attributes to give others who have not seen a player and idea of how they look when playing?

I said that Newness reminds me a bit like Dal and moves a bit like Simon Black, so according to you and your weird way of seeing things, I am suddenly saying Newness is the new Dl Santo or Black??????

fair Dinkum, instead of lurking this forum and stalking every post I make defeding your hero, try an opinion on the game just once.

You are one weird unit and your sick stalking is beginning to make my skin crawl.

Does BM know your love for him yet?

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=78763&hilit=Buddy

[stkildathunda]

Saints In VFL article is now up!


Arryn Siposs 12 disposals, 3 marks, 2 goals
Player Rating: 8/10

A solid game for the half forward. He took big marks and kicked two big goals from 50 metres out at important stages of the game. He was terrific with his forward pressure and laid four tackles.

“He is starting to build each week. He is sneaking up on opposition players and he is just accumulating the ball and is not far away from a breakout game,” said Sandringham Assistant Coach Brendan Allen.

Read full article - http://www.truezebras.com/saints-in-vfl-round-3/

[Freebird]

So one scout says he has "Buddy like" attributes.

Big deal, did he say he was the NEW BUDDY FRANKLIN?????

Fair dinkum your slavish defence of BigMart is a little creepy. Are you in love with him or something?

Find me one person that has stated White is the new Buddy Franklin?

Are you people so obtuse and lacking in insight that people use attributes to give others who have not seen a player and idea of how they look when playing?

I said that Newness reminds me a bit like Dal and moves a bit like Simon Black, so according to you and your weird way of seeing things, I am suddenly saying Newness is the new Dl Santo or Black??????

fair Dinkum, instead of lurking this forum and stalking every post I make defeding your hero, try an opinion on the game just once.

You are one weird unit and your sick stalking is beginning to make my skin crawl.

Does BM know your love for him yet?

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=78763&hilit=Buddy

Very sad...you poor twisted soul

[saintbrat]

report of the game from Roosters perspective
http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/2229 ... itz/?cs=63

[Spinner]

Some of my observations from the Ballarat game:

Didn't notice much of Savage so not sure which game I was watching.

Weller just dominated. I feel his kickings is quite good for the role he plays. 3 goals, what a game.he's ready to step into this side.

Markworth got a bit of the ball, not huge but you notice when he does. Takes off and you know it's him even from the other side of the ground. Still needs some time at this level but really liking his progress!

Acres was in the game and without dominating just makes something of his disposal. Even just the handballs create space for his teammates. Seems to just cruise but always involved - took a couple of nice marks and a couple in the contest he nearly held. Like him a lot - for his first game at this level was really really impressive!

Longer didn't dominate like I've seen previous. Did well at the contest but less around the ground.

Holmes is really taking on to this game but better than I expected. Contests in the ruck and able to pick up some possessions. Was imagining 2 years into this guy. Could be something.

Shelton did well off half back. Nice run up the ground with a lot of bounces. Praised at 3QT by the coach.

Roberton did alright. Didn't seem to dominate as much as I would have expected - not sure what the stats say.

Fisher probably the same. Did well enough coming back from injury. Spent a lot of the last on the bench.

Milera bobbed up forward. Probably needs to do more. Obviously capable of more.

Lee was quiet.

Siposs took a couple of nice marks, and a spearing pass into the 50 was a highlight. But quiet. Definitely not close to playing seniors.

Dunell plays the lead up role so well. Reads the play fantastically and is the link player forward that teams need. Unfortunately is he too small to play this role at AFL level? Probably. But I thought he had an impressive game.

TDL kicked four goals. Playerd his role well.



That's about it that I can remember. Also it was really cold and the coffee was s***.

[Spinner]

Maybe Acres only took 1 nice mark and nearly held a few more. Listed as 1 mark on the stat sheet.

Great size regardless.

[Con Gorozidis]

Saints In VFL article is now up!


Arryn Siposs 12 disposals, 3 marks, 2 goals
Player Rating: 8/10

A solid game for the half forward. He took big marks and kicked two big goals from 50 metres out at important stages of the game. He was terrific with his forward pressure and laid four tackles.

“He is starting to build each week. He is sneaking up on opposition players and he is just accumulating the ball and is not far away from a breakout game,” said Sandringham Assistant Coach Brendan Allen.

Read full article - http://www.truezebras.com/saints-in-vfl-round-3/

Thanks thunda. Appreciate your hard work.

[bergholt]

Thanks Spinner, good to hear there's something there!

[BigMart]

Joffa

Where are you?

Should we also get the Fletcher/Stanley and BJ who threads up also to make you look a tool?

It seems I have a better thread memory than you?

Btw
Haven't given up on Spencer, I think he need the law layed down To him about effort

He is lazy

[plugger66]

Joffa

Where are you?

Should we also get the Fletcher/Stanley and BJ who threads up also to make you look a tool?

It seems I have a better thread memory than you?

Btw
Haven't given up on Spencer, I think he need the law layed down To him about effort

He is lazy

There are so many for some people.

[Dave McNamara]

Haven't given up on Spencer, I think he need the law layed down To him about effort

He is lazy

Definitely not giving up on 'Buddy' White. I reckon he'll be the star we are all hoping for. Wait till he puts on a bit of muscle... will take some stopping then. Just needs time IMHO... isn't he still a teenager, and hasn't had a full preseason yet due to injuries...?

And is he really lazy though?

Maybe the asthma-related breathing issues are still a problem? (Remember, he was diagnoses as only having 60% lung function due to the asthma.) Does anyone know?

[ace]

Good to see Tom Lee is going to 'pinch hit forward'

Must be why we traded pick 12 for him?!

Did we? Is that all we go? Tom Lee for pick 12 - wow wee

No, we also got 2 draft picks which were used for Nathan Wright & Josh Saunders.
So pick 12 gave us Tom Lee, Nathan Wright & Josh Saunders.

The club traded away picks 12 & 13 probably because they thought they would not get good value for those picks.
It had been suggested the super star quality in that draft was not very deep and fell away rapidly.

[gringo]

Haven't given up on Spencer, I think he need the law layed down To him about effort

He is lazy

Definitely not giving up on 'Buddy' White. I reckon he'll be the star we are all hoping for. Wait till he puts on a bit of muscle... will take some stopping then. Just needs time IMHO... isn't he still a teenager, and hasn't had a full preseason yet due to injuries...?

And is he really lazy though?

Maybe the asthma-related breathing issues are still a problem? (Remember, he was diagnoses as only having 60% lung function due to the asthma.) Does anyone know?

I think he has that laid back nature that guys like g Train and Plugger had to footy. Just not the only thing he thinks about. To me he is the type who would have made it easier 20 years ago when the stuff that is boring wasn't as important. Training, chasing defensively in the forward line etc were never an issue once. He is the type that could still be anything. My mate who watched plenty of him at TAC level said he's worth the punt because he is the type who will put in 10 minutes of sublime footy every quarter and then disappear again. But if you could double the length of his intencity he could be a super star.

I worry about guys with limited motivation being punitively sent back to the dev squad. That wouldn't motivate me. He might need to be handled differently to get the best out of him. Get someone he respects to mentor him or something. Bring Stewie Loewe or G Train in and just build him up one on one.

[plugger66]

Haven't given up on Spencer, I think he need the law layed down To him about effort

He is lazy

Definitely not giving up on 'Buddy' White. I reckon he'll be the star we are all hoping for. Wait till he puts on a bit of muscle... will take some stopping then. Just needs time IMHO... isn't he still a teenager, and hasn't had a full preseason yet due to injuries...?

And is he really lazy though?

Maybe the asthma-related breathing issues are still a problem? (Remember, he was diagnoses as only having 60% lung function due to the asthma.) Does anyone know?

I think he has that laid back nature that guys like g Train and Plugger had to footy. Just not the only thing he thinks about. To me he is the type who would have made it easier 20 years ago when the stuff that is boring wasn't as important. Training, chasing defensively in the forward line etc were never an issue once. He is the type that could still be anything. My mate who watched plenty of him at TAC level said he's worth the punt because he is the type who will put in 10 minutes of sublime footy every quarter and then disappear again. But if you could double the length of his intencity he could be a super star.

I worry about guys with limited motivation being punitively sent back to the dev squad. That wouldn't motivate me. He might need to be handled differently to get the best out of him. Get someone he respects to mentor him or something. Bring Stewie Loewe or G Train in and just build him up one on one.

My guess is they are trying everything. if we think of it here thwy have thought of it weeks months earlier there but in the end its up to him. he may not just have it. We will know more by the end of next season. Siposs looked to have it but his career is really at the cross roads because of reasons we cant see.

[Spinner]

Good to see Tom Lee is going to 'pinch hit forward'

Must be why we traded pick 12 for him?!

Did we? Is that all we go? Tom Lee for pick 12 - wow wee

No, we also got 2 draft picks which were used for Nathan Wright & Josh Saunders.
So pick 12 gave us Tom Lee, Nathan Wright & Josh Saunders.

The club traded away picks 12 & 13 probably because they thought they would not get good value for those picks.
It had been suggested the super star quality in that draft was not very deep and fell away rapidly.

Nice work Ace!

[stinger]

picks 12 to 20 look okay to me....brodie grundy was pick 18 and ben kennedy pick 19...