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Re: Trade King

Post: # 2067696Post nostalgicsaint »

Gave away a match costing free kick due to ill discipline and selfishness.


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Vortex wrote: Sun 30 Jun 2024 4:19pm Has to be dropped

We doesn't want a contest

And doesn't want the ball
Wtf is wrong with him? He looks like his confidence is completely shot. Why though?

Just trots around


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Re: Trade King

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Is fast running out of trade value, we need to make a decision…


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Re: Trade King

Post: # 2067708Post skeptic »

I don’t understand why he doesn’t push up the ground more… def looks more effective as part of the transition


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Re: Trade King

Post: # 2067710Post Vortex »

Moods wrote: Sun 30 Jun 2024 4:37pm
Vortex wrote: Sun 30 Jun 2024 4:19pm Has to be dropped

We doesn't want a contest

And doesn't want the ball
Wtf is wrong with him? He looks like his confidence is completely shot. Why though?

Just trots around
He is mentally soft....has zero resilience and zero competitive beast. Is not interested in any form of physical contest where it matters.


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Re: Trade King

Post: # 2067722Post ace »

Moods wrote: Sun 30 Jun 2024 4:37pm
Vortex wrote: Sun 30 Jun 2024 4:19pm Has to be dropped

We doesn't want a contest

And doesn't want the ball
Wtf is wrong with him? He looks like his confidence is completely shot. Why though?

Just trots around
Nothing to do with confidence, it is a matter of no determination, lazy bum.
If St Kilda can get a top 40 pick for him TRADE.


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Re: Trade King

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Drop him for the rest of the year.

Trade him for a packet of twisties.


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Re: Trade King

Post: # 2067739Post George27 »

It really was an extremely disappointing performance by Max. When he finally led up for a mark he got a Bronx cheer, which summed it up.

In the last quarter he had multiple chances to grab the game, but failed to do so.

If there is any selection integrity he must be dropped.


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M. King is a VFL footballer until he proves otherwise.


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Re: Trade King

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nostalgicsaint wrote: Sun 30 Jun 2024 4:42pm Drop him for the rest of the year.

Trade him for a packet of twisties.
See that’s the thing i’m not sure we’d even be able to get the cheese flavoured ones.


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Re: Trade King

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George27 wrote: Sun 30 Jun 2024 4:50pm It really was an extremely disappointing performance by Max. When he finally led up for a mark he got a Bronx cheer, which summed it up.

In the last quarter he had multiple chances to grab the game, but failed to do so.

If there is any selection integrity he must be dropped.
Has to be dropped


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Re: Trade King

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That late hit, resulting in a Port free at crucial moment, was the last straw. Dumb, selfish player.


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Re: Trade King

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Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Sun 30 Jun 2024 5:31pm That late hit, resulting in a Port free at crucial moment, was the last straw. Dumb, selfish player.
100% this.


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Re: Trade King

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Is he the new whipping boy

What about Seb Ross??


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Re: Trade King

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Ship him up to join his superior brother at GCS. We might still get 2 first rounders, or one first rounder and a decent kid who is being starved of opportunity.

He looks and plays as though he doesn't want to be here.


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Re: Trade King

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Useless skinny grasshopper.

All the “leave him alone crowd” compare first 80 games played goal tallies against previous big forwards from other clubs. Most of those played their first 80 from the age of 18-22. King is 18-24 so comparing him to others is garbage.

His career average of just over 4 marks & less than 10 disposals & less than 1 tackle can easily be replaced.

Being paid significant coin to drop chest marks, kick balls out on the full. Big Gumby, trade him for a packet of mars bars. Done with him


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Re: Trade King

Post: # 2067806Post Vortex »

B.M wrote: Sun 30 Jun 2024 5:46pm Is he the new whipping boy

What about Seb Ross??
Sebb Ross welcomes physical contact and is a selfless team man who has significant mental resilience


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Re: Trade King

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nostalgicsaint wrote: Sun 30 Jun 2024 4:35pm Gave away a match costing free kick due to ill discipline and selfishness.
That free was given away because he was upset at one of the port players pushing him off the ball.
The port player hit Max with a wet lettuce leaf and Max was out of the contest. One of the softest challenges I have seen. Max must have realised and went after the next player.

He is in a bad place.
He needs to play up the ground. Get his hands on the ball. Take the pressure off.
At the moment he doesn't even attempt to stretch his arms out let alone challenge in the air. He actually avoids the situations where he should be challenging.
He isn't getting near the ball in the forward 50. Complete disaster. Embarrassing. and I think he knows it.
Therefore something has to change before it becomes so entrenched that it won't ever get better.

One other thing is that his brother is doing much better. But I actually don't really rate him either.


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Re: Trade King

Post: # 2067809Post SaintWiki »

Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Sun 30 Jun 2024 5:31pm That late hit, resulting in a Port free at crucial moment, was the last straw. Dumb, selfish player.
He probably did that as he was getting beaten and niggled at every opportunity behind play to damage his confidence as it's obvious he is apprehensive and fragile, but no excuses, as the club should be monitoring him very closely - surely this type of issue is under the radar of a professional AFL club at the highest level.

I would hate to see another club do what is necessary to lift his confidence and strength and get a great player for peanuts. The current coaching staff must be blind to keep him in the team whilst he has completely lost the plot - it's gone beyond him holding down an opposition A grade backman down just to keep him in check.
B.M wrote: Sun 30 Jun 2024 5:46pm Is he the new whipping boy

What about Seb Ross??
Seb is well past his peak but does less damage from what I can see.


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Re: Trade King

Post: # 2067812Post Devilhead »

He doesn't look fit for mine ... unfittest player on the list

He needs to have a massive pre-season .... he needs to be flogged on the track and in the gym

Time for the baby giraffe to become a Bull .... maybe grow back the mo as well


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Re: Trade King

Post: # 2067826Post B.M »

Ironically
His twin - who was seen as the lesser player

Is averaging 3 goals a game and is a likely AA

He’s bigger, he leads, his team has a better system


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Re: Trade King

Post: # 2067835Post seano1 »

Let’s face it ….he’s not the messiah….he’s just a naughty boy


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Re: Trade King

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I've done poos tougher than King


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Re: Trade King

Post: # 2067894Post The Fireman »

“King”. Oxymoron?


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More like the Prince in the Tower at the moment .... only his brother isn't there with him


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