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That makes a very valid point about the free kick tally and its relevance in this instance The Dud.
Geelong in my humble opinion were the beneficiary of two free kicks not being paid against them in the goal square that may have directly impacted the result, yet they lost the free kick tally.
It’s where you get/ don’t get them not the tally that is most critical.
Yep, it's an easy stat for the casuals to use as 'evidence' of a good/bad umpiring performance.
There is no rule saying the free kick count must be even. Nothing of the sort.
You could lose the free kick count 10-30 and still have had the rub of the green.
You could also win the free kick count 30-10 and have been robbed.
But it's a simple stat for simple arguments.
So when did a goal become 8 points?
A goal has always been 6 points, maybe you're getting confused with cricket?
Australia gave up the 8 ball over at the end of the 70's, and have stuck with the now standard 6 ball over since then.
So Dud, if that's the case and you agree that a goal is only worth 6 points, how then did we get gifted a game, that we were already 2 points up in before the decision?
A simple answer without obfuscation would be appreciated.
It's a relatively easy thing to admit that you made a mistake.
Would you rather be 2 or 8 points up with a minute to go?
2 points up and it's game on, 8 points up and its game over.
All posters are equal, but some posters are more equal than others.
That makes a very valid point about the free kick tally and its relevance in this instance The Dud.
Geelong in my humble opinion were the beneficiary of two free kicks not being paid against them in the goal square that may have directly impacted the result, yet they lost the free kick tally.
It’s where you get/ don’t get them not the tally that is most critical.
Yep, it's an easy stat for the casuals to use as 'evidence' of a good/bad umpiring performance.
There is no rule saying the free kick count must be even. Nothing of the sort.
You could lose the free kick count 10-30 and still have had the rub of the green.
You could also win the free kick count 30-10 and have been robbed.
But it's a simple stat for simple arguments.
So when did a goal become 8 points?
A goal has always been 6 points, maybe you're getting confused with cricket?
Australia gave up the 8 ball over at the end of the 70's, and have stuck with the now standard 6 ball over since then.
So Dud, if that's the case and you agree that a goal is only worth 6 points, how then did we get gifted a game, that we were already 2 points up in before the decision?
A simple answer without obfuscation would be appreciated.
It's a relatively easy thing to admit that you made a mistake.
Would you rather be 2 or 8 points up with a minute to go?
2 points up and it's game on, 8 points up and its game over.
OK,
you refuse to admit you were incorrect.
2 points up and the ball spills towards 2 of our players within goal kicking range, before the umpire pays the free incorrectly.
Of course in your world it's more likely that GWS would dispossess our players of the ball, rush it down the other end of the ground and kick a match winning goal, rather than either of our players picking it up and kicking a goal.
Have it your way.
You just confirmed the impression I have of you from reading your posts.
Belligerent troublemaker who gets enjoyment from winding others up.
But, it's just my opinion.
That makes a very valid point about the free kick tally and its relevance in this instance The Dud.
Geelong in my humble opinion were the beneficiary of two free kicks not being paid against them in the goal square that may have directly impacted the result, yet they lost the free kick tally.
It’s where you get/ don’t get them not the tally that is most critical.
Yep, it's an easy stat for the casuals to use as 'evidence' of a good/bad umpiring performance.
There is no rule saying the free kick count must be even. Nothing of the sort.
You could lose the free kick count 10-30 and still have had the rub of the green.
You could also win the free kick count 30-10 and have been robbed.
But it's a simple stat for simple arguments.
So when did a goal become 8 points?
A goal has always been 6 points, maybe you're getting confused with cricket?
Australia gave up the 8 ball over at the end of the 70's, and have stuck with the now standard 6 ball over since then.
So Dud, if that's the case and you agree that a goal is only worth 6 points, how then did we get gifted a game, that we were already 2 points up in before the decision?
A simple answer without obfuscation would be appreciated.
It's a relatively easy thing to admit that you made a mistake.
Would you rather be 2 or 8 points up with a minute to go?
2 points up and it's game on, 8 points up and its game over.
OK,
you refuse to admit you were incorrect.
2 points up and the ball spills towards 2 of our players within goal kicking range, before the umpire pays the free incorrectly.
Of course in your world it's more likely that GWS would dispossess our players of the ball, rush it down the other end of the ground and kick a match winning goal, rather than either of our players picking it up and kicking a goal.
Have it your way.
You just confirmed the impression I have of you from reading your posts.
Belligerent troublemaker who gets enjoyment from winding others up.
But, it's just my opinion.
I just RE watches it on Kayo and freeze framed the instant Butler bumps Ward and the closest player to the ball is GWS then Higgins.
When the whistle blows it appears the GWS guy stops as Higgins runs in.
I don’t subscribe to the we have two guys who would have scored theory.
I screen shot the pic and would post it here if I knew how.
Closest in freeze frame excluding Ward & Butler is clearly GWS, then Higgins, then GWS, then Sinclair (I think it is), then GWS.
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The_Dud wrote: ↑Sat 27 Mar 2021 3:21pm
Would you rather be 2 or 8 points up with a minute to go?
2 points up and it's game on, 8 points up and its game over.
OK,
you refuse to admit you were incorrect.
2 points up and the ball spills towards 2 of our players within goal kicking range, before the umpire pays the free incorrectly.
Of course in your world it's more likely that GWS would dispossess our players of the ball, rush it down the other end of the ground and kick a match winning goal, rather than either of our players picking it up and kicking a goal.
Have it your way.
You just confirmed the impression I have of you from reading your posts.
Belligerent troublemaker who gets enjoyment from winding others up.
But, it's just my opinion.
Hey champ, you're the one quoting my post and initiating this discussion out of the blue, I'm not winding anyone up.
The facts are the same no matter how upset you are about it, 2 points up with a minute to go is a game on the edge, 8 points up with a minute to go is a game in the bag.
No one knows what would have happened if that free kick was correctly called play on, but unless we kick a goal there, a minute is more than enough time for the opposition to take the ball down the ground and have a shot.
All posters are equal, but some posters are more equal than others.
The_Dud wrote: ↑Sat 27 Mar 2021 3:21pm
Would you rather be 2 or 8 points up with a minute to go?
2 points up and it's game on, 8 points up and its game over.
OK,
you refuse to admit you were incorrect.
2 points up and the ball spills towards 2 of our players within goal kicking range, before the umpire pays the free incorrectly.
Of course in your world it's more likely that GWS would dispossess our players of the ball, rush it down the other end of the ground and kick a match winning goal, rather than either of our players picking it up and kicking a goal.
Have it your way.
You just confirmed the impression I have of you from reading your posts.
Belligerent troublemaker who gets enjoyment from winding others up.
But, it's just my opinion.
Hey champ, you're the one quoting my post and initiating this discussion out of the blue, I'm not winding anyone up.
The facts are the same no matter how upset you are about it, 2 points up with a minute to go is a game on the edge, 8 points up with a minute to go is a game in the bag.
No one knows what would have happened if that free kick was correctly called play on, but unless we kick a goal there, a minute is more than enough time for the opposition to take the ball down the ground and have a shot.
Actually you responded to me
You obviously have memory issues along with your over-inflated opinion of your opinion.
But that’s it for me
I was always told not to argue with idiots because they tend to bring you down to their level
That makes a very valid point about the free kick tally and its relevance in this instance The Dud.
Geelong in my humble opinion were the beneficiary of two free kicks not being paid against them in the goal square that may have directly impacted the result, yet they lost the free kick tally.
It’s where you get/ don’t get them not the tally that is most critical.
Yep, it's an easy stat for the casuals to use as 'evidence' of a good/bad umpiring performance.
There is no rule saying the free kick count must be even. Nothing of the sort.
You could lose the free kick count 10-30 and still have had the rub of the green.
You could also win the free kick count 30-10 and have been robbed.
But it's a simple stat for simple arguments.
So when did a goal become 8 points?
Ok boomer...
All posters are equal, but some posters are more equal than others.
That makes a very valid point about the free kick tally and its relevance in this instance The Dud.
Geelong in my humble opinion were the beneficiary of two free kicks not being paid against them in the goal square that may have directly impacted the result, yet they lost the free kick tally.
It’s where you get/ don’t get them not the tally that is most critical.
Yep, it's an easy stat for the casuals to use as 'evidence' of a good/bad umpiring performance.
There is no rule saying the free kick count must be even. Nothing of the sort.
You could lose the free kick count 10-30 and still have had the rub of the green.
You could also win the free kick count 30-10 and have been robbed.
But it's a simple stat for simple arguments.
So when did a goal become 8 points?
Ok boomer...
My bad
I responded to your inane comment
Which is still nonsensical
Mr Magic wrote: ↑Fri 26 Mar 2021 10:33pm
Did Brisbane just lose a game because an umpire didn’t pay an obvious free 5 metres out from goal in the last 20 seconds?
Probably not. The rule changed a few years ago. Before then, it should have an obvious free for "incorrect disposal" or "dropping the ball" as the fans would say. However, now, you are allowed to drop the ball as long as you have not had a chance to dispose of it - "a prior opportunity". So if you get it, and the next action is to try to kick it, but miss and drop it, it's play on. On the other hand, if you have had a "prior opportunity" and drop it, then it's a free. So, if you get it, think about a handpass, change your mind and try to kick it and miss, then it's a free for incorrect disposal. Of course, the change in the rule introduced more "interpretation" into the officiating than before, the rationale (I assume) being that there are less frees and the game moves more quickly. On the incident in the goal square, it was 50/50. Blicavs didn't drop it immediately (he was half swung) but didn't try to do anything else with it either. He is a slow thinking player which is why I saw it as 50/50 - one of those more likely to go to the home team than the away team.
On the issue of throws, the ship has sailed well and truly on that. Once, a throw was easily identifiable because only one hand could do the directing of the ball, the one hitting the ball. Now, both hands can direct (it seems) which leads to a handpass over the head which should be automatically deemed a throw (but isn't). The throw from Hawkins resulted in a goal and was very poor umpiring. If we really want the game to "move along" we should get rid of handpassing and allow the ball to be thrown. But that won't ever happen.
Actually the AFL has come out and said that it should have been paid as it was a definite free kick.
