Official Trade Rumours thread (all in here please)

[FQF]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... z2h2f5aBb4

Greater Western Sydney has asked for pick 21 for defender Josh Bruce, a former zone player who is out of contract after playing 14 games in two years. Sam Fisher has been linked with the Giants, but their current priority is Collingwood defender Heath Shaw.

21 is preposterous.

[noddy]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... z2h2f5aBb4

Greater Western Sydney has asked for pick 21 for defender Josh Bruce, a former zone player who is out of contract after playing 14 games in two years. Sam Fisher has been linked with the Giants, but their current priority is Collingwood defender Heath Shaw.

21 is preposterous.

We've got three whole weeks left to play hard to get. GWS are probably hoping Fisher gets worked into the negotiations at some point.

[Con Gorozidis]

21 is out of the question.
This bruce dude has played what 9 games in two years ?
Fisher plus 40 is fair.
Or fisher plus macca for bruce and bugg.
Then we keep 3 plus 21

[avid]

now that north have used their pick 8 on father+son, they have nothing to offer us.
TAKE DAL OFF THE TABLE!
Well be a better team with dal for three more years, and whoever we draft with 3 and 21.
(unless we can get sam reid -- he might be finding CHF at the SCG a little crowded right now.)

[noddy]

21 is out of the question.
This bruce dude has played what 9 games in two years ?
Fisher plus 40 is fair.
Or fisher plus macca for bruce and bugg.
Then we keep 3 plus 21

Yeah, especially considering Bruce is out of contract and has nominated us. Finally we're in the hot seat for once.

[WellardSaint]

Hawks have put Brad Sewell up for trade, if they can find the right deal.
We aren't mentioned. He's 29, a bit old maybe, but still a useful midfielder.

[Hurricane]

Pick 21 is a joke. Not a very good one at that.

With Scott transparently hoping they can get Dal for Delaney and now this clubs obviously still think they can bend us over. It's up to Pelican and co to show them they can't

BANG BANG

[Stillwaiting]

Pick 21 is a joke. Not a very good one at that.

With Scott transparently hoping they can get Dal for Delaney and now this clubs obviously still think they can bend us over. It's up to Pelican and co to show them they can't

BANG BANG

I have this awful feeling we will get bent over and seriously spanked as well. I really hope the club is not going to consider any of these ridiculous trades being put up by Norf and gws

[MC Gusto]

we are def chasing an outside mid. dont know who at this stage

[starsign]

Former Kangaroo Luke Delaney wants to join the Saints, with the two clubs opening discussions on a deal. This could involve a trade for Dal Santo.
''Luke's nominated St Kilda as his club of choice. Now again, St Kilda have got to come forward and basically put a deal to us,'' Scott said. ''We're really keen to help Luke get to his club of choice. We really rate him as a person so we'd like to see him get another go somewhere else.''


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what's with the former Roo bit? Have they delisted him? Can we pick him up in the PSD?

[suss]

Pick 21 is a joke. Not a very good one at that.

With Scott transparently hoping they can get Dal for Delaney and now this clubs obviously still think they can bend us over. It's up to Pelican and co to show them they can't

BANG BANG

I have this awful feeling we will get bent over and seriously spanked as well. I really hope the club is not going to consider any of these ridiculous trades being put up by Norf and gws

Agree. In the absence of a high pick (10-15) in return we should keep Dal. He will definitely become a 300 gamer. I'd prefer he did it in our colours.

Keep Dal, Roo and Joey. Get Bruce. Lose Fisher (and maybe the rest of the Dustin Martin fan club).

[MC Gusto]

There is no way we should trade a pick for Bruce. Tell them their dreaming. Psd for brucey babes if that's the case

[MC Gusto]

Give the guys a chance to do the deals then comment but not on hearsay journalism.

[MC Gusto]

21 and fish for Bruce and bugg - I'd take that

[dragit]

Give the guys a chance to do the deals then comment but not on hearsay journalism.

Did you just make a comment, then tell everyone to not comment?

[noob]

What are GWS suppose to say? Give us a fourth rounder. Probably just testing the waters, and besides that don't use 3rd / 4th round picks on players.

[dragit]

I reckon clubs see us coming to be honest...

Last year GCS & GWS played hard ball with Hickey & Lee... and we gave up our 2 first round picks... we then desperately offered up our 2 2nd round picks for Mitch Brown at the last minute.

12, 13, 24 & 25 for Lee, Hickey & Brown (plus a couple of upgrades) - not sure if that's brilliant manoeuvring? Too early I guess.

[Kernal75]

I think if they decide to trade Dal, it will look like this;

Dal to NMFC for Delaney & 26
Fisher & 36 to GWS for Bruce an their 3rd rounder (32)

That means we end up with Delaney & Bruce, plus we keep 3, 21 and gain 26 from North. I think that sound line a good outcome if Dal decides he wants to move.

[Eastern]

Former Kangaroo Luke Delaney wants to join the Saints, with the two clubs opening discussions on a deal. This could involve a trade for Dal Santo.
''Luke's nominated St Kilda as his club of choice. Now again, St Kilda have got to come forward and basically put a deal to us,'' Scott said. ''We're really keen to help Luke get to his club of choice. We really rate him as a person so we'd like to see him get another go somewhere else.''


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... z2h4L4BYPO

what's with the former Roo bit? Have they delisted him? Can we pick him up in the PSD?

So Mr Scott rates Delaney as a PERSON? Its a pity he doesn't rate him as a FOOTBALLER, otherwise he'd be trying to keep him. He also said that he wants DalSanto NOW. Well Mr Scott, you want a 3 time AA NOW, YOU pay. If you're that desperate, what are you prepared to PAY !!

[dragit]

I think if they decide to trade Dal, it will look like this;

Dal to NMFC for Delaney & 26
Fisher & 36 to GWS for Bruce an their 3rd rounder (32)

That means we end up with Delaney & Bruce, plus we keep 3, 21 and gain 26 from North. I think that sound line a good outcome if Dal decides he wants to move.

We'd be silly to do that... Norths pick will be moved up a number of places with franklin, Thomas, Silvia, Betts already on the move...

We can release to free agency, where we would get a band 2, at worst band 3 compensation... Band 2 would be 22-ish, band 3 would be 25ish, north pick will be early 30's

Delaney is a spud from the rookie list who can't get a game - fourth round at best.

[Megamaguire]

FQF is right. Pick#21 is ridiculously one-sided for the club that already gets a truck-load of top picks on a yearly basis now. Where did GWS get the idea they can enter trade period with essendon's attitude towards the rest of the clubs?
Dragit makes a valid point i believe - last year we looked a bit desperate and out maneuvered. Of coarse GWS will announce Bruce leaving must involve Pick #21 leaving St.Kilda.
Interesting that norf are still plugging away aiming to get Dal Santo for very little.
Norf are probably not that serious on Dal with the discredited (in their eyes) Delaney as their meagre offer.
Sam Reid apparently may be available from the swans - That is a trade that could bring much bigger results for St.Kilda!
Norf and gws are chancing their arm reg: potential trades with St.Kilda. Of coarse they will offer next to nothing for what they want.
Delaney sounds like a stop- gap and as much as i'd prefer to get him over via the pre-season D. If north keep trying to screw us i think we would be better dealing with the Swans for instance (who need sal.cap relief). or even the lions. It is early in the poker game of trade season and i'm sure the recruiters know they have plenty of time to NOT SCREW UP!
I had to laugh at that biffer Scott 'being transparent'
(ie) wanting a seasoned mid like Dal Santo with about 3 years left to substantially improve the depth/ rotations @ norf and only give up a side-lined defender(Delaney) who they don't rate @ all.
Make Scott do the work and throw up some real young prospects doing well @ A. st. Heard a couple of young players made top 10 in their B&F. Personally i'd leave the Delaney scenario to the PSD.
Hope there is a better qualified key defender out there that we are into right now.

Would Sydney accept pick#21 for Sam Reid?
Would St.Kilda be interested?
Can St.Kilda work with the Swans better than we could with GWS/ norf??

GO SAINTS!

[Teflon]

now that north have used their pick 8 on father+son, they have nothing to offer us.
TAKE DAL OFF THE TABLE!
Well be a better team with dal for three more years, and whoever we draft with 3 and 21.
(unless we can get sam reid -- he might be finding CHF at the SCG a little crowded right now.)

I agree

Dal Santo for another 3 Vs Norths spud?

Be good for the in to keep him alongside kids - sure, test the market but only for overs otherwise its not a good move IMO

[Megamaguire]

Teflon i agree north have nothing 'on the table' for us to be excited about. Eastern i wouldn't bother adding the mr to scott - wouldn't trust the whinging git!

Biffer scott actually believes he can exert media pressure on St.Kilda to get Dal Santo for peanuts because.... he believes north deserve to play preliminary and grand finals from here on in. He believes St.Kilda should simply accept the writing on the wall that we are crap and should take what we deserve.

You cannot deal with a fool who believes he can trade and get something for nothing.
Avid that is a better recruiting strategy - get sam Reid. At least you are talking about a real deal player!
Just heard that GWS are putting together that truckload of cash for H.Shaw again. Now is probably the time to pounce on a highly rated young gun from gws with a lucrative offer. Do they actually have a top line player who could help St. Kilda who they really don't want to lose but have to due to 2 manty players on their list?

G O S A I N T S!

[lloyd21]

Brad Scott unfortunately seems delusional about it , does not seem to understand the landscape .

North Melbourne have to approach Saints with "Godfather deal " not the other way around.

Personally feel screw them if by end of week they don't offer anything special.

Give Dal 3 year deal and move on to draft.

As for Gws I hope they tell them Fisher is available pick 19 and move on too, pick up Bruce in PSD.
Delaney will be delisted so they will be able again to pick up for free uncontracted ,delisted player.

[Kickit]

Teflon i agree north have nothing 'on the table' for us to be excited about. Eastern i wouldn't bother adding the mr to scott - wouldn't trust the whinging git!

Biffer scott actually believes he can exert media pressure on St.Kilda to get Dal Santo for peanuts because.... he believes north deserve to play preliminary and grand finals from here on in. He believes St.Kilda should simply accept the writing on the wall that we are crap and should take what we deserve.

You cannot deal with a fool who believes he can trade and get something for nothing.
Avid that is a better recruiting strategy - get sam Reid. At least you are talking about a real deal player!
Just heard that GWS are putting together that truckload of cash for H.Shaw again. Now is probably the time to pounce on a highly rated young gun from gws with a lucrative offer. Do they actually have a top line player who could help St. Kilda who they really don't want to lose but have to due to 2 manty players on their list?

G O S A I N T S!

I think they still have cap concessions. I just hope that securing Shaw doesn't sour a potential Fisher deal.