Trade Summary...

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
User avatar
evertonfc
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7262
Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 9:11pm
Location: 'Quietly Confident' County
Has thanked: 115 times
Been thanked: 267 times
Contact:

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1826976Post evertonfc »

I've got a terrible feeling we're going to have a careless trade period, paying overs for players to come in, taking unders for players who leave.

This is very concerning. We need to rebuild our list using smarts, not stupidity.


Clueless and mediocre petty tyrant.

Image
User avatar
magnifisaint
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8185
Joined: Sun 02 May 2004 2:52am
Has thanked: 231 times
Been thanked: 629 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1826978Post magnifisaint »

Laurie wrote: Tue 01 Oct 2019 5:15pm Geelong WILL NOT give up Constable.
We will get a 3rd round pic for Stevens take it or leave it.
and our recruitment guys will accept.
Ben King at St.Kilda all pie in the sky talk. Boom Boom.
What do you know?


In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in, they're eating the cats. They’re eating – they are eating the pets of the people that live there.
longtimesaint
Club Player
Posts: 1862
Joined: Thu 01 May 2008 6:30pm
Location: Mentone
Has thanked: 18 times
Been thanked: 265 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1826979Post longtimesaint »

Laurie wrote: Tue 01 Oct 2019 5:15pm Geelong WILL NOT give up Constable.
We will get a 3rd round pic for Stevens take it or leave it.
and our recruitment guys will accept.
Ben King at St.Kilda all pie in the sky talk. Boom Boom.
Let’s leave it!
I’m sick of these clubs expecting Saints to just bend over and take whatever they throw at us.


One year will be our year
DJ Higgins
Club Player
Posts: 1873
Joined: Fri 28 Oct 2016 11:59pm
Has thanked: 54 times
Been thanked: 269 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1826983Post DJ Higgins »

I think people will be surprised by how little we actually do. Hill and Paddy come, Bruce will go and probably stuvo. That might be it. If we get too clever we may not get hill who we want. I know people don't think he is a pick six but look at the draft pool this year, it becomes pretty average after pick 2.
As long as we don't trade next year's picks I'll be happy


User avatar
saintsRrising
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 30098
Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 711 times
Been thanked: 1235 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1826985Post saintsRrising »

DJ Higgins wrote: Tue 01 Oct 2019 6:38pm I think people will be surprised by how little we actually do. Hill and Paddy come, Bruce will go and probably stuvo. That might be it. If we get too clever we may not get hill who we want. I know people don't think he is a pick six but look at the draft pool this year, it becomes pretty average after pick 2.
As long as we don't trade next year's picks I'll be happy
Well if one believes the goss Hill, Jones and Ryder will all join. Gray may join.


Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
User avatar
skeptic
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 17047
Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
Has thanked: 3663 times
Been thanked: 2927 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1826986Post skeptic »

evertonfc wrote: Tue 01 Oct 2019 6:07pm I've got a terrible feeling we're going to have a careless trade period, paying overs for players to come in, taking unders for players who leave.

This is very concerning. We need to rebuild our list using smarts, not stupidity.
I’m inclined to agree

I have very little confidence in the club’s judgment when it comes to assessing a player’s value. We seem to be consistently very bad at it


B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12738
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2716 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1826994Post B.M »

Sam Gray... he’s a GOP at best... no different to Kent.


gringo
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12421
Joined: Tue 24 Mar 2009 11:05pm
Location: St Kilda
Has thanked: 296 times
Been thanked: 55 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1826996Post gringo »

B.M wrote: Tue 01 Oct 2019 7:44pm Sam Gray... he’s a GOP at best... no different to Kent.
He can play some midfield which is what I image he's being looked at for. Considering we need mids not forwards it still seems weird though. Perhaps they got him mixed up with Robbie Grey.

Jones is the other weird one. He's best off a HBF but played some wing as well. We just went after Hill who he won't be better than so plays HBF or inside mid. Inside he was pretty ordinary at the Swans.


fugazi
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4243
Joined: Thu 25 Mar 2004 2:47pm
Location: incarnate
Has thanked: 286 times
Been thanked: 694 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1826998Post fugazi »

Hill is looking like the only quality get this year.
B. King next year.


Nee!
saint-stu
Club Player
Posts: 1192
Joined: Thu 22 Nov 2007 8:27pm
Has thanked: 268 times
Been thanked: 58 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1826999Post saint-stu »

fugazi wrote:Hill is looking like the only quality get this year.
B. King next year.
I guess that's the problem with trading future picks.

I really hope we don't bring in a bunch of mature average players. We just need quality. Nothing else will help.


1ac46a38
B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12738
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2716 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1827007Post B.M »

Brad Hill is quality
Zac Jones is ok
Sam Gray is not great
Ryder is terrible now, not even in the seniors nowadays

Out
Steven obvious quality
Bruce solid, structurally important
Newnes a gop
Acres a tease


User avatar
skeptic
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 17047
Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
Has thanked: 3663 times
Been thanked: 2927 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1827014Post skeptic »

FB trade group reporting that Ben King has requested a trade to the Saints


User avatar
saintsRrising
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 30098
Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 711 times
Been thanked: 1235 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1827017Post saintsRrising »

B.M wrote: Tue 01 Oct 2019 8:35pm Brad Hill is quality
Zac Jones is ok
Sam Gray is not great
My summation too
B.M wrote: Tue 01 Oct 2019 8:35pm
Ryder is terrible now, not even in the seniors nowadays
Not that I am a fan of picking up Ryder as his best years are gone, but that is not so as he did play 17 games last year including the last 5 games in a row.


Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
Kilda
Club Player
Posts: 157
Joined: Sun 04 Dec 2005 9:56pm
Has thanked: 37 times
Been thanked: 19 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1827022Post Kilda »

Skeptic, if your mail is correct, then this is THE trade we need to secure over all others.

Give the Suns our pick 6 and throw in a player if need be but the club desperately needs to be bold. Securing the King twins could be a true turning point in the club’s fortunes.

I’m tired of our club playing Mr.Nice guy.... we let Jamie Cripps go for peanuts out of compassion and now we hear similar rumblings with Jack Steven.

Ben King should be the club’s number one priority. If he really has requested a trade to Moorabbin then we bloody well need to ensure it happens. This is St Kilda’s one great opportunity. Don’t blow it, please.


suss
Club Player
Posts: 1928
Joined: Sun 22 May 2005 11:42pm
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 90 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1827023Post suss »

I saw the King boys having lunch down at Sandy the other day. Big grins, having fun. Just got a vibe they might be reunited sooner rather than later. It’s wrong to keep twins apart.


B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12738
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2716 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1827025Post B.M »

He also has spent time in the reserves because he struggled to play in tandem with Lycett


SinCitySainter
Club Player
Posts: 997
Joined: Fri 16 Sep 2011 10:39am
Has thanked: 62 times
Been thanked: 137 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1827027Post SinCitySainter »

According to SEN Dougal Howard has toured St Kilda, Essendon and North. What I have seen of him I have liked. Key defender, not bad by foot and reasonable pace. He also captained port one game this year so has strong leadership qualities. Still only 22.


Kilda
Club Player
Posts: 157
Joined: Sun 04 Dec 2005 9:56pm
Has thanked: 37 times
Been thanked: 19 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1827032Post Kilda »

It’s all very well to get excited about players wanting to come to Moorabbin BUT seriously we don’t have much to offer for them. We have four picks only and three of them are 57 and above! Hardly enticing. Are we going to once again use up our future draft picks?

Seriously, the club should aim for Ben King and Brad Hill. Just bring in class. That’s what the club lacks. If we could secure King and Hill in this draft period, it would seriously bolster optimism. The King brothers could be the pot of gold we’ve been desperately waiting for.


B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12738
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2716 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1827035Post B.M »

Dougal Howard...FFS

Now I’ve heard it all?

Why are we chasing defenders... we have a shitload of them... how’s this for an idea

Recruit a power forward to replace Bruce... who we just got rid of for a pick in the thirties
Recruit a decent midfielder to replace Steven


User avatar
Joffa Burns
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7081
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 5:48pm
Has thanked: 1871 times
Been thanked: 1570 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1827041Post Joffa Burns »

SinCitySainter wrote: Tue 01 Oct 2019 9:05pm According to SEN Dougal Howard has toured St Kilda, Essendon and North. What I have seen of him I have liked. Key defender, not bad by foot and reasonable pace. He also captained port one game this year so has strong leadership qualities. Still only 22.
Dougal Howard MD is a better fit than the player formerly known as Paddy Ryder or Chris Masten.

Is big, mobile and can play at both ends and the right age bracket.

He wouldn’t be my first pick but would feel a bit better about the Bruce departure if we secured him.


Proudly assuming the title of forum Oracle and serving as the inaugural Saintsational ‘weak as piss brigade’ President.
B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12738
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2716 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1827043Post B.M »

Is he a power forward?

Don’t recall him kicking too many goals, or being that good?


User avatar
The Recruit
Club Player
Posts: 912
Joined: Tue 12 May 2015 12:50am
Has thanked: 16 times
Been thanked: 118 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1827049Post The Recruit »

Where was that posted Gringo..link..?


BarryGrogan
Club Player
Posts: 1347
Joined: Sat 06 Apr 2019 10:34am
Has thanked: 278 times
Been thanked: 321 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1827054Post BarryGrogan »

B.M wrote: Tue 01 Oct 2019 9:19pm

Recruit a power forward to replace Bruce... who we just got rid of for a pick in the thirties
Recruit a decent midfielder to replace Steven
?

What did we get for Bruce? Pick 30? Is that true?

And haven't we just about landed Hill?


kalsaint
Club Player
Posts: 1941
Joined: Sat 24 Apr 2004 10:24pm
Location: Perth WA
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 19 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1827058Post kalsaint »

Pundit wrote: Tue 24 Sep 2019 10:58am
Gershwin wrote: Tue 24 Sep 2019 10:34am
Saintmatt wrote: Tue 24 Sep 2019 10:28am I thought Alex Keath was off to the Dullbogs with Josh Bruce? There was a point early on when I thought that if Carlisle went - Keath was a must. Then with Carlisle staying I thought he'd be a nice to have. But now that Carlisle stays and Robbo is back in the mix - I think Keath's worth to us is more diminished.

Still annoyed we're going to lose Jack S for 7/8ths of fvck all. Somewhat baffled as to why we're effectively going to swap Josh Bruce for Zac Jones ... Pack crashing heart and soul KF for a dime a dozen not great kicking HB seems dumb to me
Talk this morning of Carlisle to Collingwood and Ricky Nixon has mentioned Carlton interested in Dunstan.
Golly golly gosh, Rick Nixon being the source of information for a fan forum, that has to be highly credible... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Yes an assumption here that Ricky possibly has some inside knowledge within 2 clubs he used to play for. :!:


Midfield clearances and clear winners are needed to make an effective forward line.

You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
kalsaint
Club Player
Posts: 1941
Joined: Sat 24 Apr 2004 10:24pm
Location: Perth WA
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 19 times

Re: Trade Summary...

Post: # 1827059Post kalsaint »

johnnyrayflamingo wrote: Wed 25 Sep 2019 10:59am
SaintPav wrote: Wed 25 Sep 2019 10:50am Is Pundit JR, AKA Ted, AKA Parkey?
Who are these people?
And no they are not. E.g. I don't agree with Pundits view on Zac Jones. He would be good for us. He played in a GF against the Dogs as a 21 year old. Has tons of pace and ability and hardness. Along with Hill on another wing they could both be very damaging in at Marvel and the G. Chuck Billings in the mix also and we have three very good players running around on the wings each week.
Yep generally agree but would ensure that the player who is most influential should not be on a wing but in the action to serve as inside out outside player. Hill is a quality outside player and definitely a wingman. The others may need to play forwards sometimes swapping with Gresh.


Midfield clearances and clear winners are needed to make an effective forward line.

You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
Post Reply