SEAFORD CENTRE ??? !!

[I Love Peter Kiel]

From Legendary:

Seaford is about the next 30, 40 and 50 years. Seaford is about a time in the next two generations when Melbourne suburbia stretches from the CBD all the way down to Frankston.
When you won't be able to buy a house within 10kms of Port Phillip for under $5 million dollars.

That was a great post!
The Saints have the opportunity to establish themselves as the "Geelong" of the eastern side of the bay...we can claim ALL that territory and all those young families will feel drawn towards our club. The future is ours!

Plus, as has been pointed out, in the second Grand Final week, Collingwood had at its disposal everything that opens and shuts, virtually brand new equipment, while we had.....

Yes I love Moorabbin, but I wish we had moved 5 years ago.

As for the Dolphins Oval, yes it is more centrally located in Frankston. It's pretty, but the traffic is usually in a bit of a bottleneck around there.
At Belvedere Park there will be no problems of politics. Did anyone stop to think that our VFL club is Sandringham, rivals of the Frankston Dolphins?

In Seaford, we have the chance to make our own history!


"The stone that was rejected has become the corner stone"

[I Love Peter Kiel]

PS I drove to Belvedere park last January. Plenty of room to expand and no traffic problem.


The club has gained quite a lot of money and publicity from all the recent finals. We're really high profile now. We'll pour millions into Seaford.

[St Lenny]

Seriously, what a pack of whingers. Instead of whining about why we didn't go here or there, do your research and find out why as you have obviously forgotten.

[ace]

Enough with surveillance cameras.
Don't you guys realise that the Franger Boys like to steal video surveillance cameras.
The club will go bankrupt replacing them.

[plugger66]

There was some romantic notion that we would move to Frankston and after training the boys would head down to a beachside cafe & enjoy a latte.

Reality is that they would have jumped straight in their cars and headed home - the same as they'll do at Seaford. The same as all players from all teams do. Did the boys stroll down to a South Rd cafe after training at Linton Street?

You don't live anywhere near Moorabbin, do you?

Many players can be seen on any day in certain cafes in Moorabbin and Brighton. I don't think they want to eat and socialise in the workplace.

Didnt seem to hurt the pies this year. They eat all their meals together at the Westpac centre. It may actually help certain players bond by having them all together at lunch and even breakfast. At the moment a few who live close to home go home for a bite to eat and actually dont really get to know the players that well.

[spert]

There has never been, or will be, a happy long-term solution at Moorabbin with local government never seeming to want to go that little step further to make it work with the club. Lets face it, apart from '66, the Moorabbin ground has been synonymous with failure for the club. The priority for the club is a premiership and long-term survival, so for survival, positioning itself in a growth area with a local government who want you there is a good start. The young kids in the area will see that as the home of the Saints and life will go on. The Saints should buy the pub on Nepean Highway at Seaford (the Riviera?)and paint it up in Red White and Black so as to make a real visible presence in the area.

[St Lenny]

Actually the Angels prepare lunch for them every day they train at Moorabbin, been doing it for 2 years.

[Dr Spaceman]

There has never been, or will be, a happy long-term solution at Moorabbin with local government never seeming to want to go that little step further to make it work with the club. Lets face it, apart from '66, the Moorabbin ground has been synonymous with failure for the club. The priority for the club is a premiership and long-term survival, so for survival, positioning itself in a growth area with a local government who want you there is a good start. The young kids in the area will see that as the home of the Saints and life will go on. The Saints should buy the pub on Nepean Highway at Seaford (the Riviera?)and paint it up in Red White and Black so as to make a real visible presence in the area.

I'm too young to know the history of the move from the Junction Oval but I'm sure that when it was first touted (presumably in the early 60s) Moorabbin looked nothing like it does today.

My folks built their home nearby in the early 50s and there was virtually nothing around them but market gardens.

The supporters back then must have been ecstatic about moving from the Junction Oval to a suburban ground located in a side street. No internet back then but I'm sure the carrier pigeon forum would have been in a flap with similar comments about that move to the sticks. And that was for a home ground, not just a training venue. Now Linton Street is revered like the Taj Mahal.

Life goes on. I can see no reason why it won't become a fantastic establishment and will help us gain support down the peninsula.

And if people don't think that last point is important in this day and age, well IMO, they have rocks in their heads.

[stinger]

Moorabbin means SFA to me.

It's worth less than a New Zealand coin in a vending machine.

I never watched a football game there, I've been there twice to watch training (GF training), I've never been to the shop, never played pokies there and never went to a social function there.

To me, Moorabbin is the biggest dump in the world.


It's falling down, it's archaic, it's a heap of crap in a semi-industrial suburb surrounded by old people and a bowling green.



The faster we get out of Moorabbin the better.


I can't believe how short sighted most people on here are. You must be the sort of people in charge of the State Government and planning in Victoria.

Where would we have been if Drake and co. had been short sighted in the 1960's?
Up the Maribyrnong with no paddle.


Seaford is not about the next five years and pandering to the old codgers like my dad who remember the "good old days" of standing on cans at Moorabbin.

Seaford is not about some crap of "honouring" the past, or being "convenient" for our wealthy players who currently live in Brighton.


Seaford is about the next 30, 40 and 50 years. Seaford is about a time in the next two generations when Melbourne suburbia stretches from the CBD all the way down to Frankston.
When you won't be able to buy a house within 10kms of Port Phillip for under $5 million dollars.

When every bayside area around Carrum, Aspendale, Seaford and Frankston is upper middle class.

When "Melbourne2030" has Frankston and Dandenong as the two MAJOR centres of service, industry and WORK in this state, and many affulent people will want to live NEAR their workplaces in these areas.

Seaford is about establishing in a GROWING area with young families, who will continue having kids, continue buying land and accumulating wealth and improving the quality of services and aesthetics in their area.


Seaford is about this club developing a facility of excellence, with room to expand for the future. It is about giving the club a base from which to build, providing the players with THE best and having everything that we need in the one location.

Gone are the days of making history at a place. You now have "training venues" and highly paid professional players.


If you are still stuck back in the 1960's and yearn for some antiquated, Jurassic establishment which fulfills your short-sighted desire to be comforted by history, then continue to bag Seaford.

Continue to show your ignorance and inability to envisage something long-term and strategically successful that the Saints have done.


Put away your slippers and your cardigans and crawl back in bed. I am part of the generation of supporters that will carry this club financially and emotionally for the next 50 years, and Seaford is a great idea.

It gives us the best facility to win a flag.

At the end of the day, that's what counts.

great post mate...

[ChicagoSaint]

Enough with surveillance cameras.
Don't you guys realise that the Franger Boys like to steal video surveillance cameras.
The club will go bankrupt replacing them.

Franger Boys. LMAO Do you know what I will do to the Franger Boys is they touch the place Ace?

[Dr Spaceman]

Enough with surveillance cameras.
Don't you guys realise that the Franger Boys like to steal video surveillance cameras.
The club will go bankrupt replacing them.

Franger Boys. LMAO Do you know what I will do to the Franger Boys is they touch the place Ace?

I think it should actually be Frangerless Boys

[ChicagoSaint]

Frankston Boys OMG ROFL

[Con Gorozidis]

Jesus, you guys are fricken trigger happy.

I wont repond to your stupid accusxations on here anymore.

You have anything to say to me pm me. But make sure you have proof. You wont though.

No one want sto read through your crap on here.

Stick to the topic.

i agree/ anyone with that name must be a saints fan. hardcore saints fans aside who the hell has heard of pecko? i loved pecko by the way. would still be a good player now.

[Con Gorozidis]

From Legendary:

Seaford is about the next 30, 40 and 50 years. Seaford is about a time in the next two generations when Melbourne suburbia stretches from the CBD all the way down to Frankston.
When you won't be able to buy a house within 10kms of Port Phillip for under $5 million dollars.

That was a great post!
The Saints have the opportunity to establish themselves as the "Geelong" of the eastern side of the bay...we can claim ALL that territory and all those young families will feel drawn towards our club. The future is ours!

Plus, as has been pointed out, in the second Grand Final week, Collingwood had at its disposal everything that opens and shuts, virtually brand new equipment, while we had.....

Yes I love Moorabbin, but I wish we had moved 5 years ago.

As for the Dolphins Oval, yes it is more centrally located in Frankston. It's pretty, but the traffic is usually in a bit of a bottleneck around there.
At Belvedere Park there will be no problems of politics. Did anyone stop to think that our VFL club is Sandringham, rivals of the Frankston Dolphins?

In Seaford, we have the chance to make our own history!


"The stone that was rejected has become the corner stone"

love the optimism pk. hope u are right. i think the decision was made when we were aligned with casey. dunno if traffic is a big issue. if it was we should be located near mount omeo. no traffic. fresh air. great eucalypts. fresh water. BJ could visit family. awesome.

[Con Gorozidis]

There has never been, or will be, a happy long-term solution at Moorabbin with local government never seeming to want to go that little step further to make it work with the club. Lets face it, apart from '66, the Moorabbin ground has been synonymous with failure for the club. The priority for the club is a premiership and long-term survival, so for survival, positioning itself in a growth area with a local government who want you there is a good start. The young kids in the area will see that as the home of the Saints and life will go on. The Saints should buy the pub on Nepean Highway at Seaford (the Riviera?)and paint it up in Red White and Black so as to make a real visible presence in the area.

I'm too young to know the history of the move from the Junction Oval but I'm sure that when it was first touted (presumably in the early 60s) Moorabbin looked nothing like it does today.

My folks built their home nearby in the early 50s and there was virtually nothing around them but market gardens.

The supporters back then must have been ecstatic about moving from the Junction Oval to a suburban ground located in a side street. No internet back then but I'm sure the carrier pigeon forum would have been in a flap with similar comments about that move to the sticks. And that was for a home ground, not just a training venue. Now Linton Street is revered like the Taj Mahal.

Life goes on. I can see no reason why it won't become a fantastic establishment and will help us gain support down the peninsula.

And if people don't think that last point is important in this day and age, well IMO, they have rocks in their heads.

good post

[Con Gorozidis]

Moorabbin means SFA to me.

It's worth less than a New Zealand coin in a vending machine.

I never watched a football game there, I've been there twice to watch training (GF training), I've never been to the shop, never played pokies there and never went to a social function there.

To me, Moorabbin is the biggest dump in the world.


It's falling down, it's archaic, it's a heap of crap in a semi-industrial suburb surrounded by old people and a bowling green.



The faster we get out of Moorabbin the better.


I can't believe how short sighted most people on here are. You must be the sort of people in charge of the State Government and planning in Victoria.

Where would we have been if Drake and co. had been short sighted in the 1960's?
Up the Maribyrnong with no paddle.


Seaford is not about the next five years and pandering to the old codgers like my dad who remember the "good old days" of standing on cans at Moorabbin.

Seaford is not about some crap of "honouring" the past, or being "convenient" for our wealthy players who currently live in Brighton.


Seaford is about the next 30, 40 and 50 years. Seaford is about a time in the next two generations when Melbourne suburbia stretches from the CBD all the way down to Frankston.
When you won't be able to buy a house within 10kms of Port Phillip for under $5 million dollars.

When every bayside area around Carrum, Aspendale, Seaford and Frankston is upper middle class.

When "Melbourne2030" has Frankston and Dandenong as the two MAJOR centres of service, industry and WORK in this state, and many affulent people will want to live NEAR their workplaces in these areas.

Seaford is about establishing in a GROWING area with young families, who will continue having kids, continue buying land and accumulating wealth and improving the quality of services and aesthetics in their area.


Seaford is about this club developing a facility of excellence, with room to expand for the future. It is about giving the club a base from which to build, providing the players with THE best and having everything that we need in the one location.

Gone are the days of making history at a place. You now have "training venues" and highly paid professional players.


If you are still stuck back in the 1960's and yearn for some antiquated, Jurassic establishment which fulfills your short-sighted desire to be comforted by history, then continue to bag Seaford.

Continue to show your ignorance and inability to envisage something long-term and strategically successful that the Saints have done.


Put away your slippers and your cardigans and crawl back in bed. I am part of the generation of supporters that will carry this club financially and emotionally for the next 50 years, and Seaford is a great idea.

It gives us the best facility to win a flag.

At the end of the day, that's what counts.

great post. hope ur right. u might be. you certainly have faith in the australian economy and the unyielding path of progress. you are very bullish.

[Stephen Theodore]

Legendary wrote:

Moorabbin means SFA to me.

It's worth less than a New Zealand coin in a vending machine.

I never watched a football game there, I've been there twice to watch training (GF training), I've never been to the shop, never played pokies there and never went to a social function there.

To me, Moorabbin is the biggest dump in the world.


It's falling down, it's archaic, it's a heap of crap in a semi-industrial suburb surrounded by old people and a bowling green.



The faster we get out of Moorabbin the better.


I can't believe how short sighted most people on here are. You must be the sort of people in charge of the State Government and planning in Victoria.

Where would we have been if Drake and co. had been short sighted in the 1960's?
Up the Maribyrnong with no paddle.


Seaford is not about the next five years and pandering to the old codgers like my dad who remember the "good old days" of standing on cans at Moorabbin.

Seaford is not about some crap of "honouring" the past, or being "convenient" for our wealthy players who currently live in Brighton.


Seaford is about the next 30, 40 and 50 years. Seaford is about a time in the next two generations when Melbourne suburbia stretches from the CBD all the way down to Frankston.
When you won't be able to buy a house within 10kms of Port Phillip for under $5 million dollars.

When every bayside area around Carrum, Aspendale, Seaford and Frankston is upper middle class.

When "Melbourne2030" has Frankston and Dandenong as the two MAJOR centres of service, industry and WORK in this state, and many affulent people will want to live NEAR their workplaces in these areas.

Seaford is about establishing in a GROWING area with young families, who will continue having kids, continue buying land and accumulating wealth and improving the quality of services and aesthetics in their area.


Seaford is about this club developing a facility of excellence, with room to expand for the future. It is about giving the club a base from which to build, providing the players with THE best and having everything that we need in the one location.

Gone are the days of making history at a place. You now have "training venues" and highly paid professional players.


If you are still stuck back in the 1960's and yearn for some antiquated, Jurassic establishment which fulfills your short-sighted desire to be comforted by history, then continue to bag Seaford.

Continue to show your ignorance and inability to envisage something long-term and strategically successful that the Saints have done.


Put away your slippers and your cardigans and crawl back in bed. I am part of the generation of supporters that will carry this club financially and emotionally for the next 50 years, and Seaford is a great idea.

It gives us the best facility to win a flag.

At the end of the day, that's what counts.

Enjoyed the read, Legendary. I also believe we must look at the big picture, even if its a bit difficult to see at the moment.

[plugger66]

Actually the Angels prepare lunch for them every day they train at Moorabbin, been doing it for 2 years.

Sorry not true. They have soup but that is far from lunch.

[PeckettofChips]

Jesus, you guys are fricken trigger happy.

I wont repond to your stupid accusxations on here anymore.

You have anything to say to me pm me. But make sure you have proof. You wont though.

No one want sto read through your crap on here.

Stick to the topic.

i agree/ anyone with that name must be a saints fan. hardcore saints fans aside who the hell has heard of pecko? i loved pecko by the way. would still be a good player now.

At last, common sense!

[Dr Spaceman]

Actually the Angels prepare lunch for them every day they train at Moorabbin, been doing it for 2 years.

Sorry not true. They have soup but that is far from lunch.

According to Jerry Seinfeld, if you crumble some crackers into the soup it could be a meal

[ChicagoSaint]

Actually the Angels prepare lunch for them every day they train at Moorabbin, been doing it for 2 years.

Sorry not true. They have soup but that is far from lunch.

According to Jerry Seinfeld, if you break some crackers into the soup - it's a meal

mmmm .. crackers

[Mr Magic]

Jesus, you guys are fricken trigger happy.

I wont repond to your stupid accusxations on here anymore.

You have anything to say to me pm me. But make sure you have proof. You wont though.

No one want sto read through your crap on here.

Stick to the topic.

i agree/ anyone with that name must be a saints fan. hardcore saints fans aside who the hell has heard of pecko? i loved pecko by the way. would still be a good player now.

At last, common sense!

You mean like JohnPeterBudgeFanClub?
Because everybody has heard of him.

[Con Gorozidis]

mm yeah i just thought of that...

[ChicagoSaint]

not beyond the rhelms of possibility that JPBFC and PackofShit may actually be...






































.... the same man

[Con Gorozidis]

hey my avatar came back. i vanished for a while.