Baker In. Big Ben OUT!!!!!!!!!!!

noob · Post: # 996661Post **noob** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 6:32pm

THE WARRIOR IS BACK

bushy_999 · Post: # 996662Post **bushy_999** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 6:33pm

Shock that McEvoy has been dropped. Thought he has had a good year feel sorry for the young lad.

henno · Post: # 996665Post **henno** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 6:33pm

The only thing im worried about is that Big Mac would've been ideal to clunk a few grabs up forward....also in recent weeks has been our almost designated kick in marker, always grabs a few on the HFF and will really be missed. Think we're going in too small and thought Ross would make a 'like for like' change..

LaUrEnCe · Post: # 996667Post **LaUrEnCe** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 6:34pm

holy s*** i didn't expect that! A real rabbit out of the hat
I trust Ross heaps though whatever his choice..

Kozzi to share the ruck duties with Gardiner which i think is ok because it also means Roo is freed up in the forward line.. i had noticed Kozzi was in the way of Roo at times

shows his respect for the pies midfield too..

heartbreaking for Mcevoy though

St. Luke · Post: # 996670Post **St. Luke** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 6:35pm

Old Rossy has thrown a cat into the birdcage!

Sobraz · Post: # 996675Post **Sobraz** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 6:36pm

If we're worried about L. Brown to the point of having an exclusive tagger for him, then we're in a hellofalot of trouble....

marksnsparks · Thu 23 Sep 2010 6:38pm

First bounce Baker takes out Didak and has 2011 off!

FullMonty · Post: # 996681Post **FullMonty** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 6:39pm

Sold. Go Bakes!

saintnick12 · Thu 23 Sep 2010 6:39pm

saintspremiers wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Only if you believe there won't be changes to the selected 22 before the game starts.
rarely do you play games with team selection before a grand final.

dunno, I'm confused

I doubt Baker will be a late out.
I remember Ross being interviewed in the lead up to the prelim and being asked if he would name Baker again and make a decision at the last minute. He said no, mainly because it "it's not fair on Steven". THerefore I can't see Baker not playing now. Seems a good match up for Davis...if Davis actually plays.
Surprised pies have gone for Davis and Presti. Be surprised if both play.

So its either as selected, or a late change for an injury we already know about (eg Eddy or Gram).

OhMyGoddard · Thu 23 Sep 2010 6:41pm

Absolutely NO CHANCE that Big Mac won't play!

Baker may play if Gram doesn't come up, otherwise unchanged.

Lyon is trying to play funny buggers.

VietNam_Saint · Thu 23 Sep 2010 6:42pm

matrix wrote:its only thurs

ive calmed down
gotta be bluffing
might see some changes tho

but dropping a ruckman for a tagger is a big mindfuck lol

Not convinced Matrix. I think if there's rain I'd like to see Bakes in, and showers are forecast for Saturday afternoon.

bergholt · Post: # 996693Post **bergholt** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 6:44pm

henno wrote:Think we're going in too small and thought Ross would make a 'like for like' change..

i reckon we've been too tall for a few weeks. remember the second half against geelong where we ran out of legs? and blake spent a lot of time on the bench? this makes perfect sense to give blake a role and add legs to the side.

SaintPav · Post: # 996697Post **SaintPav** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 6:44pm

millarsaint wrote:Either Gram is out already, or Kosi/Blake to take ruck against Brown.

Gardi to take Jolly always.

Would Blake be playing on Brown anyway? Just stay with him the entire match?

That's what I was thinking exactly so you may be on the money with that one.....

sunsaint · Post: # 996724Post **sunsaint** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 7:07pm

OhMyGoddard wrote:Absolutely NO CHANCE that Big Mac won't play!

Baker may play if Gram doesn't come up, otherwise unchanged.

Lyon is trying to play funny buggers.

yep agree
the one area we had a clear advantage was ruck
WHY would you stuff that up.
Both Gardiner and McEvoy go forward and kick goals thats been proven over time, and it means that Jolly and hack fill-in have to play a very defensive mindset after the bounce. Thats is to our advantage.

SainterK · Post: # 996730Post **SainterK** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 7:13pm

sunsaint wrote:
OhMyGoddard wrote:Absolutely NO CHANCE that Big Mac won't play!

Baker may play if Gram doesn't come up, otherwise unchanged.

Lyon is trying to play funny buggers.
yep agree
the one area we had a clear advantage was ruck
WHY would you stuff that up.
Both Gardiner and McEvoy go forward and kick goals thats been proven over time, and it means that Jolly and hack fill-in have to play a very defensive mindset after the bounce. Thats is to our advantage.

I understand your concern.

However, you are forgetting that the very capable Pies thrashed us in Rd 16, whatever circumstances may of contributed to it.

Our structure just didn't hold up that day, and I know I don't want Ross to do a Bomber, and back our gameplan when it's obvious it didn't work against them.

We need to come in with a Collingwood specific game plan.

spert · Post: # 996731Post **spert** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 7:13pm

If there's any wet weather, then Kosi will go missing, so we just cant carry too many big blokes. Big Macca has done a superb job for a young bloke learning the game and he is part of the future..at the moment we are playing for now!

Beej · Post: # 996742Post **Beej** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 7:21pm

matrix wrote:i give up
im going to get tea

What are you going for tonight?

Me, I'm having parmesan crumbed barramundi, baked potatoes, steamed vegetables and some char-grilled capsicum.

SainterK · Post: # 996745Post **SainterK** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 7:22pm

Beej wrote:
matrix wrote:i give up
im going to get tea
What are you going for tonight?

Me, I'm having parmesan crumbed barramundi, baked potatoes, steamed vegetables and some char-grilled capsicum.

Yummo!

My chicken casserole with rice is nearly done, and very unexciting compared to yours.

#1GILL · Post: # 996746Post **#1GILL** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 7:23pm

Beej wrote:
matrix wrote:i give up
im going to get tea
What are you going for tonight?

Me, I'm having parmesan crumbed barramundi, baked potatoes, steamed vegetables and some char-grilled capsicum.

Parma, chips and salad for me.

SaintHomer · Post: # 996747Post **SaintHomer** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 7:24pm

Sobraz wrote:If we're worried about L. Brown to the point of having an exclusive tagger for him, then we're in a hellofalot of trouble....

i dont we're necessarily worried about brown, its just that blake is a better match up at 2nd ruck that mcevoy. mcevoy doesn't have the mobility or pace of brown.

not a popular selection, but i think a good one.

as for baker, it was him or geary for me. let's hope he chose correctly

Unforgiven · Post: # 996753Post **Unforgiven** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 7:28pm

Spot on Homer, all this Blake tagging Brown is crap. It is simply a superior match up.

In terms of aerbic capacity, ground level skills and playing as a defender, Blake has got Benny Mac covered in all categories.

Considering the high chance of rain, this selection makes even more sense. If Brown goes forward, there is no need for a rotation of defenders, simply Blake follows him.

The gain in the match up we get for having Blake on Brown, is far greater than the loss of Benny Mac's ability to ruck.

Ajer · Post: # 996754Post **Ajer** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 7:29pm

Yeah great selection Lyon. Drop one of our tall keymen who has been in great form for a guy who hasnt played in 3 months.

Pathetic decision on th eve of the GF. Baker isnt even that good, dunno what the fascination with him is.

Really pissed off about this.

Thinline · Post: # 996757Post **Thinline** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 7:31pm

Ajer wrote:Yeah great selection Lyon. Drop one of our tall keymen who has been in great form for a guy who hasnt played in 3 months.

Pathetic decision on th eve of the GF. Baker isnt even that good, dunno what the fascination with him is.

Really pissed off about this.

And of course you'd do better because you're a fly on the wall.

OhMyGoddard · Thu 23 Sep 2010 7:32pm

SainterK wrote:
sunsaint wrote:
OhMyGoddard wrote:Absolutely NO CHANCE that Big Mac won't play!

Baker may play if Gram doesn't come up, otherwise unchanged.

Lyon is trying to play funny buggers.
yep agree
the one area we had a clear advantage was ruck
WHY would you stuff that up.
Both Gardiner and McEvoy go forward and kick goals thats been proven over time, and it means that Jolly and hack fill-in have to play a very defensive mindset after the bounce. Thats is to our advantage.
I understand your concern.

However, you are forgetting that the very capable Pies thrashed us in Rd 16, whatever circumstances may of contributed to it.

Our structure just didn't hold up that day, and I know I don't want Ross to do a Bomber, and back our gameplan when it's obvious it didn't work against them.

We need to come in with a Collingwood specific game plan.

The structure wasn't great in rnd 16 cos a certain #12 wasn't 100% fit yet.

dcstkfc · Post: # 996759Post **dcstkfc** » Thu 23 Sep 2010 7:32pm

Ajer wrote:Yeah great selection Lyon. Drop one of our tall keymen who has been in great form for a guy who hasnt played in 3 months.

Pathetic decision on th eve of the GF. Baker isnt even that good, dunno what the fascination with him is.

Really pissed off about this.

McEvoy is stiff, but Baker won a BnF and was in good form in the first half of the year.