Only 33.3% of minor Premiers win the flag

[mohannair]

I looked into the Ladder position of the Premiers for the corresponding year & it shows that only 33.3% of the ladder leaders have won the flag.

Here are the details.

Year 2001, Ladder leader = Essendon, Premiers = Brisbane (finished 2nd on the ladder)
Year 2002, Ladder leader = Port, Premiers = Brisbane (finished 2nd on the ladder)
Year 2003, Ladder leader = Port, Premiers = Brisbane (finished 3rd on the ladder)
Year 2004, Ladder leader = Port, Premiers = Port
Year 2005, Ladder leader = Adelaide, Premiers = Sydney (finished 3rd on the ladder)
Year 2006, Ladder leader = Eagles, Premiers = Eagles
Year 2007, Ladder leader = Geelong, Premiers = Geelong
Year 2008, Ladder leader = Geelong, Premiers = Hawks (finished 2nd on the ladder)
Year 2009, Ladder leader = Saints, Premiers = Geelong (finished 2nd on the ladder)
Year 2010, Ladder leader = Pies, Premiers = ?????

Intresting facts.

[#1GILL]

I think you are confusing 'interesting' with 'boring'

[SaintPav]

I think you are confusing 'interesting' with 'boring'

I think it's interesting...

[#1GILL]

I think you are confusing 'interesting' with 'boring'

I think it's interesting...

It's not actually a bad stat. I just couldn't resist using that line, it's off one of my favourtie TV shows.

[SaintPav]

I think you are confusing 'interesting' with 'boring'

I think it's interesting...

It's not actually a bad stat. I just couldn't resist using that line, it's off one of my favourtie TV shows.

Which show?

[#1GILL]

I think you are confusing 'interesting' with 'boring'

I think it's interesting...

It's not actually a bad stat. I just couldn't resist using that line, it's off one of my favourtie TV shows.

Which show?

Scrubs.

[On the Bench]

I'll throw in Swan Districts won this years WAFL flag.

Claremont were by far the best team all year.

It comes down to who most wants it on the day.

Personally, I have coached five seasons of junior footy for 5 premierships. I don't think we've ever been the best side, but we do have the greatest desire. I have the best bunch of young fellas in this team but we're not the most skillful.

[SaintPav]

I looked into the Ladder position of the Premiers for the corresponding year & it shows that only 33.3% of the ladder leaders have won the flag.

Here are the details.

Year 2001, Ladder leader = Essendon, Premiers = Brisbane (finished 2nd on the ladder)
Year 2002, Ladder leader = Port, Premiers = Brisbane (finished 2nd on the ladder)
Year 2003, Ladder leader = Port, Premiers = Brisbane (finished 3rd on the ladder)
Year 2004, Ladder leader = Port, Premiers = Port
Year 2005, Ladder leader = Adelaide, Premiers = Sydney (finished 3rd on the ladder)
Year 2006, Ladder leader = Eagles, Premiers = Eagles
Year 2007, Ladder leader = Geelong, Premiers = Geelong
Year 2008, Ladder leader = Geelong, Premiers = Hawks (finished 2nd on the ladder)
Year 2009, Ladder leader = Saints, Premiers = Geelong (finished 2nd on the ladder)
Year 2010, Ladder leader = Pies, Premiers = ?????

Intresting facts.

What day did the winner play their prelim?

[saintspremiers]

at last, a decent stat that has some meaning.......

Good pickup!

[saintsRrising]

What day did the winner play their prelim?

I think they said 6 out of the last PF Winner from the sat night have gone on to win the GF.

[SaintPav]

What day did the winner play their prelim?

I think they said 6 out of the last PF Winner from the sat night have gone on to win the GF.

What about this stat..

How many teams lose back to back GF?

Pies did it in 1979/1980.

[#1GILL]

What day did the winner play their prelim?

I think they said 6 out of the last PF Winner from the sat night have gone on to win the GF.

What about this stat..

How many teams lose back to back GF?

Pies did it in 1979/1980.

2002, 2003

[saints11]

What day did the winner play their prelim?

I think they said 6 out of the last PF Winner from the sat night have gone on to win the GF.

What about this stat..

How many teams lose back to back GF?

Pies did it in 1979/1980.

They lost in 81 aswell

[Bernard Shakey]

Ten years is a rather small sample in a comp that's been going for over 100 years.

[FQF]

Utterly meaningless.

One third is a fair amount anyway... not like it's 10% or something.

[SaintPav]

Ten years is a rather small sample in a comp that's been going for over 100 years.

true

[wasaintsfan]

happened in the wafl today.. claremont finish top... swans won the flag by 1 point

claremont finished 8 points clear of swans and easily made the grand final.

bad thing is the swans wear black and white and won their last premiership in 1990

[saintdooley]

I looked into the Ladder position of the Premiers for the corresponding year & it shows that only 33.3% of the ladder leaders have won the flag.

Here are the details.

Year 2001, Ladder leader = Essendon, Premiers = Brisbane (finished 2nd on the ladder)
Year 2002, Ladder leader = Port, Premiers = Brisbane (finished 2nd on the ladder)
Year 2003, Ladder leader = Port, Premiers = Brisbane (finished 3rd on the ladder)
Year 2004, Ladder leader = Port, Premiers = Port
Year 2005, Ladder leader = Adelaide, Premiers = Sydney (finished 3rd on the ladder)
Year 2006, Ladder leader = Eagles, Premiers = Eagles
Year 2007, Ladder leader = Geelong, Premiers = Geelong
Year 2008, Ladder leader = Geelong, Premiers = Hawks (finished 2nd on the ladder)
Year 2009, Ladder leader = Saints, Premiers = Geelong (finished 2nd on the ladder)
Year 2010, Ladder leader = Pies, Premiers = ?????

Intresting facts.

What day did the winner play their prelim?

from memory (which is pretty good when it comes to boring football facts) 09 Geelong played sat night, 08 Hawks played sat night, 07 Geelong played friday night, 06 Eagles played saturday, 05 we played swans friday night, 04 port played us friday night....my memory doesnt go past 2004 sorry.

[St. Luke]

I think what it shows is the team who finishes below the minor premier need/and do, more often than not, the ability to GET ON THEIR FRIGGIN BIKES as soon as that ball bounces!!

I think the stats are very interesting! I'm expecting us to come out hard!

The other thing I'm expecting is some filthy Malthouse tactics to "win at all costs" and send in a few snipers early on! The scumbag and his filthy team would be exactly like this! Especially when you look at a coach staring down the barrel of retirement! I hope to the sweet skies above that the umpires are going to protect our players!

[HSVKing]

Ten years is a rather small sample in a comp that's been going for over 100 years.

Don't think the 1920's would account for much.

Then again, nothing before Saturday does.

[bergholt]

I looked into the Ladder position of the Premiers for the corresponding year & it shows that only 33.3% of the ladder leaders have won the flag.

but 50% of the time when the ladder leader makes the grannie they win it. (04, 06, 07; losses in 01, 08, 09.) since the pies are already there, that's probably the more pertinent stat.

and what those stats also say is that only 22% of teams who finish third win the grannie.

however, 100% of teams who finished third and got to the grannie won it! (03 and 05.) never in the last nine years has a team finished third on the ladder and made the grand final and then lost! and we're in the grannie! does that mean we're guaranteed to win?

[WaggaSaint]

I looked into the Ladder position of the Premiers for the corresponding year & it shows that only 33.3% of the ladder leaders have won the flag.

Here are the details.

Year 2001, Ladder leader = Essendon, Premiers = Brisbane (finished 2nd on the ladder)
Year 2002, Ladder leader = Port, Premiers = Brisbane (finished 2nd on the ladder)
Year 2003, Ladder leader = Port, Premiers = Brisbane (finished 3rd on the ladder)
Year 2004, Ladder leader = Port, Premiers = Port
Year 2005, Ladder leader = Adelaide, Premiers = Sydney (finished 3rd on the ladder)
Year 2006, Ladder leader = Eagles, Premiers = Eagles
Year 2007, Ladder leader = Geelong, Premiers = Geelong
Year 2008, Ladder leader = Geelong, Premiers = Hawks (finished 2nd on the ladder)
Year 2009, Ladder leader = Saints, Premiers = Geelong (finished 2nd on the ladder)
Year 2010, Ladder leader = Pies, Premiers = ?????

Intresting facts.

Going by this then, the last two have been the non minor premier wins. If you're going by stats, it doesn't go well for us. So, I'm choosing to ignore this information....

[InkerSaint]

Ten years is a rather small sample in a comp that's been going for over 100 years.

It's actually quite a significant sample for a comp that has had its current finals system for only 17 years.

[HSVKing]

Ten years is a rather small sample in a comp that's been going for over 100 years.

It's actually quite a significant sample for a comp that has had its current finals system for only 17 years.

Not even that long.

The current system (1v4, 2v3, 5v8, 6v7) started in 2000.

[bob__71]

Stats mean nothing....we are smashing stats left right and center. I read in the paper that this year is the first time we have beaten the Bulldogs in a final where they have had a 'Barry' in the team.