Dogs or Swans?

starsign · Post: # 984264Post **starsign** » Tue 07 Sep 2010 9:28pm

we will beat either of them in a canter ...
and having said that I hope it's the Dogs. we front ... 'cos I would get more enjoyment out of defeating them...

and it would be far less a worry than playing the Swannies

but unfortunately I think the Swans will kill them and it will be game on!!

And on the other side of the fence I recon the Cats will face the Pies in the other Prelim and they can belt the living suitcases outta each other (hopefully!!)

Enrico_Misso · Tue 07 Sep 2010 11:29pm

I think we have both covered.

I feel sorry for the Dogs and wouldn't want to see them lose consecutive Prelims.
And revenge against the Swans would be good.

So I think the "right" result would be for the Dogs to go out quietly this week and we whallop Shyteney.

saintspremiers · Tue 07 Sep 2010 11:35pm

Don't worry about what the Swans did in 2005.

We had the bloke named GT and ZERO professional fitness management staff!!!

Dr Spaceman · Tue 07 Sep 2010 11:43pm

saintspremiers wrote:Don't worry about what the Swans did in 2005.

We had the bloke named GT and ZERO professional fitness management staff!!!

Plus we've been Schneiderised while they've been DeSchneiderised

Teflon · Post: # 984373Post **Teflon** » Wed 08 Sep 2010 12:17am

Im oddly more nervous bout this than facing say Cats.....cause against best we show up.....we just need to make sure we turn up to play.

Dr Spaceman · Wed 08 Sep 2010 12:23am

Teflon wrote:Im oddly more nervous bout this than facing say Cats.....cause against best we show up.....we just need to make sure we turn up to play.

I think it's more accurate to say that this Saints team turns up to play the big games, not the best sides. It just so happens that the big games often involve the best sides.

It's a bit hard to imagine this revenge driven, Lyon coached team taking a Prelim Final, and entry into the Grand Final, anything but 100% regardless of who the opponent ends up being.

That said, I'll be as nervous as hell simply because of the importance of the game!

Teflon · Post: # 984380Post **Teflon** » Wed 08 Sep 2010 12:26am

Dr Spaceman wrote:
Teflon wrote:Im oddly more nervous bout this than facing say Cats.....cause against best we show up.....we just need to make sure we turn up to play.
I think it's more accurate to say that this Saints team turns up to play the big games, not the best sides. It just so happens that the big games often involve the best sides.

It's a bit hard to imagine this revenge driven, Lyon coached team taking a Prelim Final, and entry into the Grand Final, anything but 100% regardless of who the opponent ends up being.

That said, I'll be as nervous as hell simply because of the importance of the game!

I agree....but theres always the unknown against an opposition (whoever we get) that will have nothing to lose as no one gives them a chance.

Dogs can still play good football....and Swans historically oush us hard...

I think Id take Swans in Melb cause they gotta travel...

St. Luke · Post: # 984477Post **St. Luke** » Wed 08 Sep 2010 1:32pm

Teflon wrote:
I think Id take Swans in Melb cause they gotta travel...

Yes, twice in successive weeks. Would be draining on any side.

We've certainly got the better side of entry into the GF, we've now got to make the best of it.

MCG-Unit · Post: # 984498Post **MCG-Unit** » Wed 08 Sep 2010 2:45pm

I hope the Swans beat the WB media darlings

saintsRrising · Wed 08 Sep 2010 4:51pm

Well the way things are shaping up I would prefer to play the Dogs.

But it would seem more likely to be the Swans.

We should have the measure of either though as long as our guys turn up mentally prepared fora 4 quarter game.

bozza1980 · Post: # 984630Post **bozza1980** » Wed 08 Sep 2010 6:26pm

This semi final is giving me horrible flash backs to 2005.

We won a qualifying final against a short priced favourite.

Then the swans played a very injury riddled Geelong in the semi final and I remember cheering the cats on as I knew with their injuries they would be a better option in the Prelim.

That said I still went to the Prelim thinking the swans were only making up the numbers and we know how that ended up.

But getting back on topic, the Swans will beat the Bulldogs ensuring that we will have a nail biting style prelim final. I still think we'll win but the swans don't go away, so they will be within striking distance most of the way.

#1GILL · Post: # 984642Post **#1GILL** » Wed 08 Sep 2010 6:41pm

saintsRrising wrote:Well the way things are shaping up I would prefer to play the Dogs.

But it would seem more likely to be the Swans.

We should have the measure of either though as long as our guys turn up mentally prepared fora 4 quarter game.

dude, what's up with the video in your Sig?

supersaints · Wed 08 Sep 2010 10:27pm

Said it all year!! The Swans are the team to beat - we beat them, we win the GF..... Just wait and see.................

SAINTMAN66 · Wed 08 Sep 2010 10:32pm

Yep more nervous about the Prelim final last year than the Gtand Final... lets get through the next game first ... if we are good enough history will look after itself...

Carn the SAINTS

SainterK · Post: # 984806Post **SainterK** » Thu 09 Sep 2010 12:39am

If Sydney do happen to select Bradshaw this week, could it mess up their structure a bit?

I mean, they could easily search him out to much like the Dogs with Barry intially, or a bit like us when Roo first came back...he hasn't played in awhile, risky move IMO.

Teflon · Post: # 984810Post **Teflon** » Thu 09 Sep 2010 12:57am

The thing bout Swans is Kirk always does a number on Hayes.

IF play em - MUST smash them out of the midfield and take Goodes up fwd etc out of equation.

saint3d · Post: # 984824Post **saint3d** » Thu 09 Sep 2010 2:50am

Teflon wrote:I agree....but theres always the unknown against an opposition (whoever we get) that will have nothing to lose as no one gives them a chance.

No team in a preliminary final has nothing to lose. There's a preliminary final to lose.

Four teams a year get a chance to get into a grand final. That's more than the other teams get, so they all have some chance.

Anyway, perhaps having nothing to lose isn't all it's cracked up to be. What if having everything to lose is a better position to be in?

saint3d · Post: # 984825Post **saint3d** » Thu 09 Sep 2010 2:53am

Teflon wrote:The thing bout Swans is Kirk always does a number on Hayes.

IF play em - MUST smash them out of the midfield and take Goodes up fwd etc out of equation.

Joey is the man against the Swans.

Schillaci · Post: # 984836Post **Schillaci** » Thu 09 Sep 2010 9:02am

I think the Dogs will win.
Losing finalists bounce back. The pattern will continue this year. Every year is the same.

Teflon · Post: # 984904Post **Teflon** » Thu 09 Sep 2010 10:40am

saint3d wrote:
Teflon wrote:I agree....but theres always the unknown against an opposition (whoever we get) that will have nothing to lose as no one gives them a chance.
No team in a preliminary final has nothing to lose. There's a preliminary final to lose.
Four teams a year get a chance to get into a grand final. That's more than the other teams get, so they all have some chance.

Anyway, perhaps having nothing to lose isn't all it's cracked up to be. What if having everything to lose is a better position to be in?

I think its fair to say if Saints play whoever we will be raging favorites and the colloqial term has and always will be that the underdog has less pressure as losing is expected and therefore they can afford to take more risk ie nothing to lose....its a "term"

Anyway its semantics I think the idea is fairly commonly used.