Cuz and Gardi

[plugger66]

Without getting into the debate about drug addiction as a disorder through choice or chemistry, what is it about guys like Cousins that they cannot see that the guys they hang around with are sh1t people??...

I understand the drug dependency bit, but why cant an intelligent guy, from a good family, see that blokes like John Kizzon or whatever his name is, are going to bring nothing but problems to his life...

When he is desperate and using them as a means for his issues, fine, but to make a choice to spend time with such people, particularly when sober and in the public eye, and establish them as 'friends' indicates to me that Ben is also a very poor judge of character, and has no idea what life and human relationships are really about... His feet are nowhere near the ground...

I'm not sure about this. Friends are friends no matter who they are. You see them differently than others do. We may have a player who plays with us who has a similar friend. You need to remember they live a different lifestyle to us.

[stinger]

garbage by any other names is still garbage.....a very hard lesson for some pple to learn......but if you lie down with dogs you get fleas.....simple really.....

[samoht]

motto -

You can choose friends (unlike relatives) - so choose wisely.

[Moods]

Without getting into the debate about drug addiction as a disorder through choice or chemistry, what is it about guys like Cousins that they cannot see that the guys they hang around with are sh1t people??...

I understand the drug dependency bit, but why cant an intelligent guy, from a good family, see that blokes like John Kizzon or whatever his name is, are going to bring nothing but problems to his life...

When he is desperate and using them as a means for his issues, fine, but to make a choice to spend time with such people, particularly when sober and in the public eye, and establish them as 'friends' indicates to me that Ben is also a very poor judge of character, and has no idea what life and human relationships are really about... His feet are nowhere near the ground...

I'm not sure about this. Friends are friends no matter who they are. You see them differently than others do. We may have a player who plays with us who has a similar friend. You need to remember they live a different lifestyle to us.

So when someone is getting shot up at at a night club no alarms go off in your head? When a 'mate' has piles of money but no real discernible employment and is referred to by the police as a 'colourful character' and a 'person of interest' you keep rocking up to his house on a Friday night hopeful of another engrossing game of chess?

Come off it Plugger. I agree that a little bit of latitude can sometimes be given in these situations, but in this case Cousins has grabbed ALL the rope and run off with it.

All this whole story told me that is that we have an extremely talented good looking bloke who has been given the world by well meaning parents, was idolised by an entire state and had no idea how to handle it. Was too cool for school and thought he was John Travolta in Pulp Fiction - and it eventually crashed around him - The End

[plugger66]

Without getting into the debate about drug addiction as a disorder through choice or chemistry, what is it about guys like Cousins that they cannot see that the guys they hang around with are sh1t people??...

I understand the drug dependency bit, but why cant an intelligent guy, from a good family, see that blokes like John Kizzon or whatever his name is, are going to bring nothing but problems to his life...

When he is desperate and using them as a means for his issues, fine, but to make a choice to spend time with such people, particularly when sober and in the public eye, and establish them as 'friends' indicates to me that Ben is also a very poor judge of character, and has no idea what life and human relationships are really about... His feet are nowhere near the ground...

I'm not sure about this. Friends are friends no matter who they are. You see them differently than others do. We may have a player who plays with us who has a similar friend. You need to remember they live a different lifestyle to us.

So when someone is getting shot up at at a night club no alarms go off in your head? When a 'mate' has piles of money but no real discernible employment and is referred to by the police as a 'colourful character' and a 'person of interest' you keep rocking up to his house on a Friday night hopeful of another engrossing game of chess?

Come off it Plugger. I agree that a little bit of latitude can sometimes be given in these situations, but in this case Cousins has grabbed ALL the rope and run off with it.

All this whole story told me that is that we have an extremely talented good looking bloke who has been given the world by well meaning parents, was idolised by an entire state and had no idea how to handle it. Was too cool for school and thought he was John Travolta in Pulp Fiction - and it eventually crashed around him - The End

Firstly on peoples friends. Of course Cousins and Michael gardiner know the bloke is a criminal but to them he is a friend. Not a friend I would have but that is obviously how they see him.

Back on the show. It showed me one thing, drugs are bad for you.