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Kosi to the ruck, Pattison forward

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At least while Gardi is out. Keeps Ross's beloved structure but allows Kosi a run around the ground with the more agile Patto able to create more frontal pressure.

What does everyone reckon?


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not sure...he didn't play last weekend....


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dcstkfc wrote:At least while Gardi is out. Keeps Ross's beloved structure but allows Kosi a run around the ground with the more agile Patto able to create more frontal pressure.

What does everyone reckon?
I disagree if we are going into the finals with Kosi as our key forward we need to keep him there.


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dcstkfc wrote:At least while Gardi is out. Keeps Ross's beloved structure but allows Kosi a run around the ground with the more agile Patto able to create more frontal pressure.

What does everyone reckon?
Holy shiit.

That really is an indictment on Kosi.


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Post: # 970600Post DWOODROW »

Why not Kosi and Patti do ruck duties and Mc go forward. He can take a grab and kick a goal. Would like to see that.


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DWOODROW wrote:Why not Kosi and Patti do ruck duties and Mc go forward. He can take a grab and kick a goal. Would like to see that.
I think we would actually miss Mc in the ruck if that was the case.


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DWOODROW wrote:Why not Kosi and Patti do ruck duties and Mc go forward. He can take a grab and kick a goal. Would like to see that.
I think we would actually miss Mc in the ruck if that was the case.
The same as we are missing Kosi at Full Forward. :wink:


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Post: # 970622Post spert »

Dunno how Kosi is still getting a game -I can't believe he didn't do a lot better against the poor opposition last week, as it was his best chance to show us something.


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No, as I said earier, with Goth out for 1-2 weeks, Rhys will come in play forward in rotation with Benny Mc and Kosi (those two to ruck) all three to share forward role!!!!!


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dcstkfc wrote:At least while Gardi is out. Keeps Ross's beloved structure but allows Kosi a run around the ground with the more agile Patto able to create more frontal pressure.

What does everyone reckon?
no patto. keep structure. keep normal structure as is. kosi FF, roo CHF and mac in the ruck. when mac needs a rest - roo to FF. kosi to ruck and Rhys to HF.

patto and mac and kosi in the one team is too immobile for todays footy. patto should only be used as a 2nd tall/ruck. not a 3rd.


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3:16 wrote:No, as I said earier, with Goth out for 1-2 weeks, Rhys will come in play forward in rotation with Benny Mc and Kosi (those two to ruck) all three to share forward role!!!!!
so if you do know what's happening, you are happy to tell North that Rhys is in the side?

Or did they already know that???


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3:16 wrote:No, as I said earier, with Goth out for 1-2 weeks, Rhys will come in play forward in rotation with Benny Mc and Kosi (those two to ruck) all three to share forward role!!!!!
so if you do know what's happening, you are happy to tell North that Rhys is in the side?

Or did they already know that???
He also said Kosi was gone, and had signed with the GC :wink:


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dcstkfc wrote:At least while Gardi is out. Keeps Ross's beloved structure but allows Kosi a run around the ground with the more agile Patto able to create more frontal pressure.

What does everyone reckon?
Holy shiit.

That really is an indictment on Kosi.
To be fair to Pattison (and Kosi), if being agile were all that was required to be an effective tall/ruck, he'd be a star.

Unfortunately for Patto, agility comes second to.... well.... everything else.


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SainterK wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:
3:16 wrote:No, as I said earier, with Goth out for 1-2 weeks, Rhys will come in play forward in rotation with Benny Mc and Kosi (those two to ruck) all three to share forward role!!!!!
so if you do know what's happening, you are happy to tell North that Rhys is in the side?

Or did they already know that???
He also said Kosi was gone, and had signed with the GC :wink:
it does make you wonder tho, why did the club keep his re-signing secret for so long?


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sunsaint wrote:
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saintspremiers wrote:
3:16 wrote:No, as I said earier, with Goth out for 1-2 weeks, Rhys will come in play forward in rotation with Benny Mc and Kosi (those two to ruck) all three to share forward role!!!!!
so if you do know what's happening, you are happy to tell North that Rhys is in the side?

Or did they already know that???
He also said Kosi was gone, and had signed with the GC :wink:
it does make you wonder tho, why did the club keep his re-signing secret for so long?
Was he the only one that was kept quiet though?


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without evidence to the contrary...yes.


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Post: # 970793Post SainterK »

sunsaint wrote:without evidence to the contrary...yes.
Fair enough, I just never believed the Gold Coast would be chasing Kosi.

I would have probably leaned towards it being because of his well publicised lack of form...


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spert wrote:Dunno how Kosi is still getting a game -I can't believe he didn't do a lot better against the poor opposition last week, as it was his best chance to show us something.

how could he do any better..?.half a dozen times he was loose on his own...but the players streaming in spottted up roo or another saint....


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stinger wrote:
spert wrote:Dunno how Kosi is still getting a game -I can't believe he didn't do a lot better against the poor opposition last week, as it was his best chance to show us something.

how could he do any better..?.half a dozen times he was loose on his own...but the players streaming in spottted up roo or another saint....
i agree honestly what do some people expect from Kosi ?? as long as he presents and applys a physical presance then im fine with hime getting a game


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st_Trav_ofWA wrote:
stinger wrote:
spert wrote:Dunno how Kosi is still getting a game -I can't believe he didn't do a lot better against the poor opposition last week, as it was his best chance to show us something.

how could he do any better..?.half a dozen times he was loose on his own...but the players streaming in spottted up roo or another saint....
i agree honestly what do some people expect from Kosi ?? as long as he presents and applys a physical presance then im fine with hime getting a game
Maybe I am expecting to much but kicking 15 goals in 13 games for a FF seems ordinary to me. Maybe he does present but it seems unbelievable that they have ignored him for 19 games now.


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Hate to say this but one thing I do agree with GT on is that Kossie is a ruckman who should pinch-hit up forward.
Personally he looks like a ruckman when he plays forward - I know he did well there last year & maybe Im having a case of short-term memory. However I think as Kossies matured his agilitys dropped off and hes become easier to nulify.
Id love to see Kossie thrown into the ruck with B-Mac this week and Rhys Stanley given another chance up forward. Rhys adds speed and supreme athletic ability - and Kossie adds strength and strong contested marking around the groud.


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MadSaintFan wrote:Hate to say this but one thing I do agree with GT on is that Kossie is a ruckman who should pinch-hit up forward.
Personally he looks like a ruckman when he plays forward - I know he did well there last year & maybe Im having a case of short-term memory. However I think as Kossies matured his agilitys dropped off and hes become easier to nulify.
Id love to see Kossie thrown into the ruck with B-Mac this week and Rhys Stanley given another chance up forward. Rhys adds speed and supreme athletic ability - and Kossie adds strength and strong contested marking around the groud.

worth a try.....


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plugger66 wrote:
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spert wrote:Dunno how Kosi is still getting a game -I can't believe he didn't do a lot better against the poor opposition last week, as it was his best chance to show us something.

how could he do any better..?.half a dozen times he was loose on his own...but the players streaming in spottted up roo or another saint....
i agree honestly what do some people expect from Kosi ?? as long as he presents and applys a physical presance then im fine with hime getting a game
Maybe I am expecting to much but kicking 15 goals in 13 games for a FF seems ordinary to me. Maybe he does present but it seems unbelievable that they have ignored him for 19 games now.
I'd say the lack of confidence he had for a while there probably affected both him, and then in turn, they may not have looked for him as much.

The good thing is that now he is working hard, and providing leads, and I am sure they will soon look for him again very soon.


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SainterK wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:
3:16 wrote:No, as I said earier, with Goth out for 1-2 weeks, Rhys will come in play forward in rotation with Benny Mc and Kosi (those two to ruck) all three to share forward role!!!!!
so if you do know what's happening, you are happy to tell North that Rhys is in the side?

Or did they already know that???
He also said Kosi was gone, and had signed with the GC :wink:
Which he was, until the Gold Coast withdrew the offer!!!!!


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3:16 wrote:
SainterK wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:
3:16 wrote:No, as I said earier, with Goth out for 1-2 weeks, Rhys will come in play forward in rotation with Benny Mc and Kosi (those two to ruck) all three to share forward role!!!!!
so if you do know what's happening, you are happy to tell North that Rhys is in the side?

Or did they already know that???
He also said Kosi was gone, and had signed with the GC :wink:
Which he was, until the Gold Coast withdrew the offer!!!!!
He signed with us over 2 months ago. You said he was leaving 4 weeks ago. What happened?


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