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No reward for finishing first?

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Bit surprised to hear Sheahan's bleating today and again on the couch this evening about the lack of reward for Collingwood finishing 1st after being "far and away" the best team in the regular season.

Can someone ask him how this differs from us finishing first after almost going through an entire season undefeated but then having to play Collingwood at their home ground and then the Bulldogs - again at the MCG?

I might have amnesia but I can't remember him coming out in vocal criticism of the lack of reward for our efforts over the course of last season.

I don't have a problem with the way things panned out for the draw for us last season, but can someone explain why things are all of a sudden so drastically different for Collingwood this year?


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Herald Sun. Collingwood. Sell more papers. Can be the only reason for his timely bleat.


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Post: # 970189Post mbogo »

Coll can be rewarded by getting a HOME GAME FINAL followed by a HOME GROUND Prelim if they win.
No advantage? Pfftt!
And the GF is played on the HOME ground they will play about 17 games on this year!
Oh - can I ask if we had this advantage last year? Or if the Cats do? What a spurious pile of bulls***.


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Final 7. Ditch the double chance and give the top team a first round bye. It would be fantastic and will never, ever happen. I'd like to make the argument that ditching the crappy semis would probably increase interest in the other games - especially since they'd all be elitmination games. Somebody from the MCC would probably flatline in the snow at the thought of all the lost revenue. I'm probably in the minority, but I would happily pay the price of a ticket to the semis each year to get rid of the semis.

And the Pies do get and advantage - they gets to wear their traditional black Adidas jumper instead of their clash jumper. You know - the white Adidas jumper that looks more like the one they've worn for most of their existence.


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Did 1st posi do US any good in the end? :roll:


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Looking for the reintroduction of the Challenge System to get the Pies another Premiership?


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Post: # 970224Post saintdooley »

hmmm...what happens if we both make it to the big one this year? Pies v Saints. Their home game. Would the AFL allow us both to wear our home jumpers?
tbh, i hate our clash jumper, i dont want to look back in 20 years time of Roo holding up the cup in that rubbish, although i guess anything is better than what Baldock had on in 66.

but seriously, i just dont think the pies will make it.
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Badlands wrote:Bit surprised to hear Sheahan's bleating today and again on the couch this evening about the lack of reward for Collingwood finishing 1st after being "far and away" the best team in the regular season.

Can someone ask him how this differs from us finishing first after almost going through an entire season undefeated but then having to play Collingwood at their home ground and then the Bulldogs - again at the MCG?

I might have amnesia but I can't remember him coming out in vocal criticism of the lack of reward for our efforts over the course of last season.

I don't have a problem with the way things panned out for the draw for us last season, but can someone explain why things are all of a sudden so drastically different for Collingwood this year?

good point...he pissed me off as well....but mike has a habit of doing that......dismissing the teams effort at the weekend as merely a training run had the sme effect too.....


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Badlands wrote:Bit surprised to hear Sheahan's bleating today and again on the couch this evening about the lack of reward for Collingwood finishing 1st after being "far and away" the best team in the regular season.

Can someone ask him how this differs from us finishing first after almost going through an entire season undefeated but then having to play Collingwood at their home ground and then the Bulldogs - again at the MCG?

I might have amnesia but I can't remember him coming out in vocal criticism of the lack of reward for our efforts over the course of last season.

I don't have a problem with the way things panned out for the draw for us last season, but can someone explain why things are all of a sudden so drastically different for Collingwood this year?

good point...he pissed me off as well....but mike has a habit of doing that......dismissing the teams effort at the weekend as merely a training run had the sme effect too.....
The Hawks had a pretty lousy training run last week, no wonder they lost again. :roll:


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Colingwood Collingwood Collingwood
Blah Blah Blah

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Post: # 970253Post sainter104 »

to be fair as we all know there would be no afl without colon-wood.
should they finnish top they should be aloud to play at a ground of their choosing (probably vic.park) AND whoever dare to play them not be aloud any interchange at all, In fact maybe have to play with 16


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We had a significantly better year than them last year. At this point we hadn't lost. In the end we dropped 2. Collingsook are 1.5 games WORSE. Why bring up the topic now? There can be only one explanation. Sheahan was worded up by Pies PR. Sheahan in turn went: "could be a four day runner...hmmm....sales....hmmm...ching ching...."


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Post: # 970279Post plugger66 »

Again it is what people what to read in papers and remember what has been said previously. They arent just saying there should be a reward for finishing first this year. Also said it last year when we were on top and nearly every previous year.


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Post: # 970281Post rodgerfox »

stinger wrote:...dismissing the teams effort at the weekend as merely a training run had the sme effect too.....
History tells us that you don't want Sheahan on the bandwagon.

He, like Patrick Smith, has an amazing record of jumping on moments before things go bad - and jumping off just prior to things coming good!


As for the OP, the AFL lost me almost completely when we played a 'home' prelim against Sydney in 2005 at a ground that they had played at more than us during the year.
Then we played a 'home' final the following year against Melbourne at their home ground.


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plugger66 wrote:Again it is what people what to read in papers and remember what has been said previously. They arent just saying there should be a reward for finishing first this year. Also said it last year when we were on top and nearly every previous year.
I certainly don't recall such vehemence, Plugger. He was 'genuinely' aghast last night.

Sheahan is a canny newspaper man. He knows who reads his rag.


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Post: # 970305Post gringo »

Mike should be a polly just speaking to the biggest group on issues that appeal to their self interest.

Now he needs to find a minority club with fewer members and no public voice and start pointing at the way they run their club. I don't know who? A club with less members and a few off field issues this year would be good. Any one?


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Post: # 970347Post saint3d »

I thought there was a monetary prize for the minor premiership.

Also you get to play the team that finished fourth and obviously haven't performed as well as you during the year.


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Poor old Collingwood,

I suppose they'll just have to settle for playing the last half of the entire home and away season on their home ground, the MCG as compensation!

How many games at the MCG in a row 7, 8, 10? leading into the finals!

FAIR DINKUM, Sheahan is a FAIR DINKUM c**k smoker!


And Malthouse was complaining in the press about St kilda's fixturing!
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


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barks4eva wrote:Poor old Collingwood,

I suppose they'll just have to settle for playing the last half of the entire home and away season on their home ground, the MCG as compensation!

How many games at the MCG in a row 7, 8, 10? leading into the finals!

FAIR DINKUM, Sheahan is a FAIR DINKUM c**k smoker!


And Malthouse was complaining in the press about St kilda's fixturing!
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
It does beggar belief sometimes. But any Pies news is better than other news.


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Post: # 970373Post saintsRrising »

There is a big reward for finishing first this year.

You get to avoid playing the Saints first up!!!!


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barks4eva wrote:And Malthouse was complaining in the press about St kilda's fixturing!
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
he (and his team and supporters) are obsessed with st kilda. they hate us.

in a perfect world, we play them in the grand final and win by a point ... again, milne kicking the winning point after the siren from a dubious umpiring decision. steven baker wins the norm smith medal.


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bigcarl wrote:
barks4eva wrote:And Malthouse was complaining in the press about St kilda's fixturing!
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
he (and his team and supporters) are obsessed with st kilda. they hate us.

in a perfect world, we play them in the grand final and win by a point ... again, milne kicking the winning point after the siren from a dubious umpiring decision. steven baker wins the norm smith medal.

i like it..... :wink: :lol: :lol:


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Post: # 970780Post Saints94 »

Who does Shehan go for ?


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Post: # 970789Post Mr Magic »

Saints94 wrote:Who does Shehan go for ?
He claims to barrack for Melbourne


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Mr Magic wrote:
Saints94 wrote:Who does Shehan go for ?
He claims to barrack for Melbourne
Not sure why but I had thought it was Carlton...


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