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Post: # 958172Post dcstkfc »

We will never be able to count on Milney in big games.


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Post: # 958174Post battye »

And vs Geelong a few weeks ago? Not a big game?


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battye wrote:And vs Geelong a few weeks ago? Not a big game?
He had a pretty average game that night as well, kicked two but did little else and was lucky to get that second one with the Hunt incident.

I love Milney but his strike rate on these big days is AWFUL


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Post: # 958179Post battye »

While Riewoldt was out, Milne had to step up to the plate with virtually no help from Kosi - and he thrived. Surely that speaks volumes more about his temperament under pressure than a game against Collingwood.

Edit: and the delivery inside 50 today was awful, with no help from others he had to create his own opportunities which is what he did with the receive from Pattison.


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battye wrote:While Riewoldt was out, Milne had to step up to the plate with virtually no help from Kosi - and he thrived. Surely that speaks volumes more about his temperament under pressure than a game against Collingwood.

Edit: and the delivery inside 50 today was awful, with no help from others he had to create his own opportunities which is what he did with the receive from Pattison.
Fair point, perhaps I have over-reacted but it was the kind of Milne performance that I have seen too many times.


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dcstkfc wrote:
battye wrote:And vs Geelong a few weeks ago? Not a big game?
He had a pretty average game that night as well, kicked two but did little else and was lucky to get that second one with the Hunt incident.

I love Milney but his strike rate on these big days is AWFUL
Must have been a different bloke who cracked the freo game open at subi.

The thing with small forwards is they need opportunities if side gets smacked it's hard for them to do much.

I think there are a few other blokes we should be potting before we pot Milne.


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bozza1980 wrote:
dcstkfc wrote:
battye wrote:And vs Geelong a few weeks ago? Not a big game?
He had a pretty average game that night as well, kicked two but did little else and was lucky to get that second one with the Hunt incident.

I love Milney but his strike rate on these big days is AWFUL
Must have been a different bloke who cracked the freo game open at subi.

The thing with small forwards is they need opportunities if side gets smacked it's hard for them to do much.

I think there are a few other blokes we should be potting before we pot Milne.
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Post: # 958196Post kalsaint »

dcstkfc wrote:We will never be able to count on Milney in big games.
I dont think any team counts on their small forwards like we seem to do.

Milney didnt get much help today from poor forward disposals. Kosi and Nick were also experienceing similar problems.

Milney is the focus of a key defender every week now and needs the other fringe players to assist him keep the forward pressure. This hasnt happened today.


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kalsaint wrote:
dcstkfc wrote:We will never be able to count on Milney in big games.
I dont think any team counts on their small forwards like we seem to do.

Milney didnt get much help today from poor forward disposals. Kosi and Nick were also experienceing similar problems.

Milney is the focus of a key defender every week now and needs the other fringe players to assist him keep the forward pressure. This hasnt happened today.
Good point


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Talk about eating our own... Collingwood has nothing on this place...


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Post: # 958219Post Moods »

Geez it's easy to blame our fwds on days like today isn't it? We hardly got it in there, and when we did, well, you had to be bloody good to make something of it.

We were SMASHED through the midfield. Blokes like Gram, Geary, and Ray gave us NOTHING.

Let's face it, all over the ground we couldn't handle their pressure. Fwd, back and Mid. Blaming or picking out one bloke who has been absolutely sensational for us all year is unbelievably harsh.

Shocking game all round. Perhaps the game we had to have I reckon. WE won't be that off next time (if there is a next time)


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Post: # 958226Post bobmurray »

dcstkfc wrote:We will never be able to count on Milney in big games.
Thats what Grant Thomas says....continuously...


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Moods wrote:Geez it's easy to blame our fwds on days like today isn't it? We hardly got it in there, and when we did, well, you had to be bloody good to make something of it.

We were SMASHED through the midfield. Blokes like Gram, Geary, and Ray gave us NOTHING.

Let's face it, all over the ground we couldn't handle their pressure. Fwd, back and Mid. Blaming or picking out one bloke who has been absolutely sensational for us all year is unbelievably harsh.

Shocking game all round. Perhaps the game we had to have I reckon. WE won't be that off next time (if there is a next time)
Shocking game, but not so much to do with their pressure. We were in 3rd gear all night and never stepped it up to 2nd gear, let alone first. It wasn't one player, it was the entire team bar a 2-3.

What made me leave the game with not much concern was the fact that we weren't 'outplayed', we were just beaten by a team on the day that was playing at 100%. We were playing at 50% capacity at best. Colingwood capitalised on that. Our misfortune was their good luck. To blame Milne is ridiculous! We had an absolute Barry Crocker. End of story.


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Post: # 958282Post plugger66 »

This thread is as bad as the pies are no good thread. Milney has been great all year in important and unimportant games. He is a froward pocket so relies on us being good in the midfield. we were beaten there today so Milney suffers. maybe we should drop him come the first final even if has been best for the previous 3 games as he is no good in the finals. Maybe he can be replaced by our other finals champions who currently arent playing.


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battye wrote:While Riewoldt was out, Milne had to step up to the plate with virtually no help from Kosi - and he thrived. Surely that speaks volumes more about his temperament under pressure than a game against Collingwood.

Edit: and the delivery inside 50 today was awful, with no help from others he had to create his own opportunities which is what he did with the receive from Pattison.
Isnt that just making excuses? He's been tops this year but the record still stands..it can't be denied.


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Post: # 958287Post skeptic »

Thought Milney was one of the few that had a real crack today.

Didn't do a lot but at least he presented and took the game on


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Post: # 958289Post Longwayfromhome »

If Milne is the only player you want to flog than screw you. He has held the forward line together while the skipper has been out.
He certainly wasn't the worst today and is in my opinion the best small forward in the competition.
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Post: # 958375Post Griggsy »

He didn't get the opportunity to shine being up the ground, the game was played in the Pies half and Roo and Milne were the only 2 players not to go back with the ball. If Ross moved him into the midfield we may have seen more of him.


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