Unnatural highs and medicated come-downs.
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Unnatural highs and medicated come-downs.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/t ... 100ls.html
Grant Thomas, St Kilda's coach between 2001 and 2006, revealed yesterday that for most of those years his match-day routine was an unhealthy cycle of unnatural highs and medicated come-downs.
"Of course, three hours of editing was always accommodated with a bottle of red wine … when you put it all together, it's not a great cocktail, is it?''
Well at least he was not asleep at the wheel.....
Seriously though what a wasted era where someone played out fantasies of being a coach rather than appointing a person that had been through the system.
Grant Thomas, St Kilda's coach between 2001 and 2006, revealed yesterday that for most of those years his match-day routine was an unhealthy cycle of unnatural highs and medicated come-downs.
"Of course, three hours of editing was always accommodated with a bottle of red wine … when you put it all together, it's not a great cocktail, is it?''
Well at least he was not asleep at the wheel.....
Seriously though what a wasted era where someone played out fantasies of being a coach rather than appointing a person that had been through the system.
Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
Re: Unnatural highs and medicated come-downs.
Still think it was more a matter of bad injury management.saintsRrising wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/t ... 100ls.html
Grant Thomas, St Kilda's coach between 2001 and 2006, revealed yesterday that for most of those years his match-day routine was an unhealthy cycle of unnatural highs and medicated come-downs.
"Of course, three hours of editing was always accommodated with a bottle of red wine … when you put it all together, it's not a great cocktail, is it?''
Well at least he was not asleep at the wheel.....
Seriously though what a wasted era where someone played out fantasies of being a coach rather than appointing a person that had been through the system.
We weren't that far off, but no doubt in my mind Ross is a 50% better coach than GT, significantly more professional.
Nothing against GT personally, really like the guy.
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I am pretty amazed at this story. I can't see how he could operate rationally when bringing himself up and down like he was. Sleeping tablets, caffeine and alcohol??? Gee whiz!
Anyway, agree we were close but the little things all make a difference. Reviewing the tape with a bottle of red? Surely not.
Anyway, I guess in Ross we now trust...and I feel like he is calmer in general which can only be a good thing when talking about the leader of the playign group.
Anyway, agree we were close but the little things all make a difference. Reviewing the tape with a bottle of red? Surely not.
Anyway, I guess in Ross we now trust...and I feel like he is calmer in general which can only be a good thing when talking about the leader of the playign group.
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LOL good stuff !markp wrote:Just as long as he is being perceived.SainterK wrote:He really doesn't care about how people perceive him, that's for sure.
another P word comes to mind by comparison as well.....
Professional....
and I recon Rosco takes the cake here in all things related to the word in terms of AFL coaching!!
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Yep, fair enough, I would have thought he would be editing out the important parts to show the group, hence "reviewing" it in some sense.rodgerfox wrote:I don't think he said he was reviewing it whilst drinking! He did the editing whilst knocking back a bottle of plonk.Sainterman wrote: Reviewing the tape with a bottle of red? Surely not.
Quite an amazing story on many levels this one.
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Considering caffeine was only taken off the WADA banned list in 2004 and GT says he was loading up in 2001, how many of our players at that time were on caffeine?
I don't buy that crap about drinking a cup of "tar". Why would you drink that rubbish rather than pop a couple of pills? He had the heart problem in 2003. Says he did it because the players did it. The man is a fool. Thank goodness we have a real man in charge now (even if he does walk in a mincing way).
I don't buy that crap about drinking a cup of "tar". Why would you drink that rubbish rather than pop a couple of pills? He had the heart problem in 2003. Says he did it because the players did it. The man is a fool. Thank goodness we have a real man in charge now (even if he does walk in a mincing way).
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Sacked and not a minute too soon before he shipped Milne off to Essendon, but not before he managed to send a playing list from heaven half way to hell in five years, while destroying a relationship with our VFL affiliate and overseeing shambolic recruiting with boy wonder Bundy by his side,
as if pick 6 in the National Draft wasn't enough for Barry Brooks, they threw in a second rounder to sweeten the deal to the ex- club boy wonder happened to be affiliated with,...... seriously
How could such inanity happen?
Probably explains a great deal!
Perhaps Bundy was also helping out some old mates at Port at the very same time!
The only rookie to come through under Thomas was Milne and he can take no credit for recruiting Milne to begin with and in the end was going to give him the flick, thank flick they flicked the right flick just in flicking time!
Zero rookies, zero, zilch, nada, nought, nothing, absolutely SFA!
Without bothering to check the exact number there were about five rookies in West Coast's 2006 premiership team.
Insisted the club spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on two week overseas holidays disguised as training camps and Mr Snakeoil can't even get the team fully fit for the requirements of AFL football!
FAIR DINKUM
And not to mention Jason Blake in the ruck with no numbers behind the ball, seriously at least we now know Blake wasn't the only one getting smashed at the time!
When I spoke to Mick McGuane and questioned this inanity he responded with "We prefer to back our own players", FAIR DINKUM
That was the entire gameplan, just send them out with the mission to beat their opponent, with no tactics or gameplan whatsoever!
Did I mention playing Jason Blake in the ruck with no instruction to the midfield to get numbers behind the ball?
At least we can now put this down to him being totally sloshed at the time as some sort of explanation for this complete and utter buffoonery!
And then we come to fitness and conditioning and injury management,
oh dear
Grant "fitness and conditioning staff are overrated" Thomas in control of the entire football department and responsible for one of the most crucial elements in a team's success was off his head, on the piss and popping pills the whole time!
FAIR DINKUM
To think of all the know nothing, numbnuts, nuffies, suckholes, brown noses, GT doll worshipping sheep, the easily conned dingbats, douchebags, dunderheads, a gaggle of geeks, gumps, gimps and goatriders who fell for the snake oil routine and lined up for the poisoned cordial,........ they who abused me on here for years when I suggested (on at least one occasion), that Thomas was pissing our chances up against the wall and didn't have a FAIR DINKUM clue!:roll:
Shame on you all!
Apologies are in order!
The megalomaniacal maestro appoints himself in a sham process, pays himself $500,000 a year with no previous AFL coaching experience, insists on absolute 100% full control of the football department and the buffoon was pissed and off his head on pills the whole time!The sleeping tablets completely messed with his ability to function properly the next day. ''You'd have to wake up at 6 o'clock to get to the footy club again with your eyes hanging out of your head. It wasn't a good scenario.''
FAIR DINKUM
Sacked and not a minute too soon before he shipped Milne off to Essendon, but not before he managed to send a playing list from heaven half way to hell in five years, while destroying a relationship with our VFL affiliate and overseeing shambolic recruiting with boy wonder Bundy by his side,
as if pick 6 in the National Draft wasn't enough for Barry Brooks, they threw in a second rounder to sweeten the deal to the ex- club boy wonder happened to be affiliated with,...... seriously
How could such inanity happen?
''You'd have to wake up at 6 o'clock to get to the footy club again with your eyes hanging out of your head. It wasn't a good scenario.''
Probably explains a great deal!
Perhaps Bundy was also helping out some old mates at Port at the very same time!
The only rookie to come through under Thomas was Milne and he can take no credit for recruiting Milne to begin with and in the end was going to give him the flick, thank flick they flicked the right flick just in flicking time!
Zero rookies, zero, zilch, nada, nought, nothing, absolutely SFA!
Without bothering to check the exact number there were about five rookies in West Coast's 2006 premiership team.
Insisted the club spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on two week overseas holidays disguised as training camps and Mr Snakeoil can't even get the team fully fit for the requirements of AFL football!
FAIR DINKUM
And not to mention Jason Blake in the ruck with no numbers behind the ball, seriously at least we now know Blake wasn't the only one getting smashed at the time!
When I spoke to Mick McGuane and questioned this inanity he responded with "We prefer to back our own players", FAIR DINKUM
That was the entire gameplan, just send them out with the mission to beat their opponent, with no tactics or gameplan whatsoever!
Did I mention playing Jason Blake in the ruck with no instruction to the midfield to get numbers behind the ball?
At least we can now put this down to him being totally sloshed at the time as some sort of explanation for this complete and utter buffoonery!
FAIR DINKUM''You'd have to wake up at 6 o'clock to get to the footy club again with your eyes hanging out of your head. It wasn't a good scenario.''
And then we come to fitness and conditioning and injury management,
oh dear
Grant "fitness and conditioning staff are overrated" Thomas in control of the entire football department and responsible for one of the most crucial elements in a team's success was off his head, on the piss and popping pills the whole time!
FAIR DINKUM
To think of all the know nothing, numbnuts, nuffies, suckholes, brown noses, GT doll worshipping sheep, the easily conned dingbats, douchebags, dunderheads, a gaggle of geeks, gumps, gimps and goatriders who fell for the snake oil routine and lined up for the poisoned cordial,........ they who abused me on here for years when I suggested (on at least one occasion), that Thomas was pissing our chances up against the wall and didn't have a FAIR DINKUM clue!:roll:
Shame on you all!
Apologies are in order!
''You'd have to wake up at 6 o'clock to get to the footy club again with your eyes hanging out of your head. It wasn't a good scenario.''
DO THE MATHS AND THE SQUARES ARE ALL ROOTED.
Or as I said on the other thread, at least have an affogato and enjoy the experience.Bernard Shakey wrote:Considering caffeine was only taken off the WADA banned list in 2004 and GT says he was loading up in 2001, how many of our players at that time were on caffeine?
I don't buy that crap about drinking a cup of "tar". Why would you drink that rubbish rather than pop a couple of pills? He had the heart problem in 2003. Says he did it because the players did it. The man is a fool. Thank goodness we have a real man in charge now (even if he does walk in a mincing way).
Oh, and it's a 'sashay'
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Very funny. .SainterK wrote:Oh, and it's a 'sashay'
Loved it when Ross said that in his interview after the Geelong game when Hamish asked if he would be moonwalking around his lounge room...
"I don't moonwalk, I sashay"
I gather that is what you are referring to.
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He might think it's a sashay, I say he minces.saintnick12 wrote:Very funny. :D :D .SainterK wrote:Oh, and it's a 'sashay' :wink:
Loved it when Ross said that in his interview after the Geelong game when Hamish asked if he would be moonwalking around his lounge room...
"I don't moonwalk, I sashay" :wink:
I gather that is what you are referring to.
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Re: Unnatural highs and medicated come-downs.
seriously, this, and the following anti Gt sentiment is completely unfounded.saintsRrising wrote:
Well at least he was not asleep at the wheel.....
Seriously though what a wasted era where someone played out fantasies of being a coach rather than appointing a person that had been through the system.
Where is the same criticism for Lenny Hayes???
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My thoughts too.markp wrote:Just as long as he is being perceived.SainterK wrote:He really doesn't care about how people perceive him, that's for sure.
The pressure of coaching a high profile team with high public and supporter expectations can build pressure on the Coach.
I can sympathise with Grant but it's not as if he had to take the job on in the first place. AH-HEM!
At the end of the day (as Stan would say) "He's a piss pot!!"
I'm the same as him but I know I've got a problem and I'm working on it.
I once spent a year in Adelaide, I think it was on a Sunday.
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Why would you want to criticise Lenny?sunsaint wrote:seriously, this, and the following anti Gt sentiment is completely unfounded.saintsRrising wrote:
Well at least he was not asleep at the wheel..... :roll: :roll:
Seriously though what a wasted era where someone played out fantasies of being a coach rather than appointing a person that had been through the system.
Where is the same criticism for Lenny Hayes???
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\sunsaint wrote: Where is the same criticism for Lenny Hayes???
Come again??
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This is a bit much!barks4eva wrote:FAIR DINKUM
The megalomaniacal maestro appoints himself in a sham process, pays himself $500,000 a year with no previous AFL coaching experience, insists on absolute 100% full control of the football department and the buffoon was pissed and off his head on pills the whole time!The sleeping tablets completely messed with his ability to function properly the next day. ''You'd have to wake up at 6 o'clock to get to the footy club again with your eyes hanging out of your head. It wasn't a good scenario.''
FAIR DINKUM
Sacked and not a minute too soon before he shipped Milne off to Essendon, but not before he managed to send a playing list from heaven half way to hell in five years, while destroying a relationship with our VFL affiliate and overseeing shambolic recruiting with boy wonder Bundy by his side,
as if pick 6 in the National Draft wasn't enough for Barry Brooks, they threw in a second rounder to sweeten the deal to the ex- club boy wonder happened to be affiliated with,...... seriously
How could such inanity happen?
''You'd have to wake up at 6 o'clock to get to the footy club again with your eyes hanging out of your head. It wasn't a good scenario.''
Probably explains a great deal!
Perhaps Bundy was also helping out some old mates at Port at the very same time!
The only rookie to come through under Thomas was Milne and he can take no credit for recruiting Milne to begin with and in the end was going to give him the flick, thank flick they flicked the right flick just in flicking time!
Zero rookies, zero, zilch, nada, nought, nothing, absolutely SFA!
Without bothering to check the exact number there were about five rookies in West Coast's 2006 premiership team.
Insisted the club spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on two week overseas holidays disguised as training camps and Mr Snakeoil can't even get the team fully fit for the requirements of AFL football!
FAIR DINKUM
And not to mention Jason Blake in the ruck with no numbers behind the ball, seriously at least we now know Blake wasn't the only one getting smashed at the time!
When I spoke to Mick McGuane and questioned this inanity he responded with "We prefer to back our own players", FAIR DINKUM
That was the entire gameplan, just send them out with the mission to beat their opponent, with no tactics or gameplan whatsoever!
Did I mention playing Jason Blake in the ruck with no instruction to the midfield to get numbers behind the ball?
At least we can now put this down to him being totally sloshed at the time as some sort of explanation for this complete and utter buffoonery!
FAIR DINKUM''You'd have to wake up at 6 o'clock to get to the footy club again with your eyes hanging out of your head. It wasn't a good scenario.''
And then we come to fitness and conditioning and injury management,
oh dear
Grant "fitness and conditioning staff are overrated" Thomas in control of the entire football department and responsible for one of the most crucial elements in a team's success was off his head, on the piss and popping pills the whole time!
FAIR DINKUM
To think of all the know nothing, numbnuts, nuffies, suckholes, brown noses, GT doll worshipping sheep, the easily conned dingbats, douchebags, dunderheads, a gaggle of geeks, gumps, gimps and goatriders who fell for the snake oil routine and lined up for the poisoned cordial,........ they who abused me on here for years when I suggested (on at least one occasion), that Thomas was pissing our chances up against the wall and didn't have a FAIR DINKUM clue!:roll:
Shame on you all!
Apologies are in order!
''You'd have to wake up at 6 o'clock to get to the footy club again with your eyes hanging out of your head. It wasn't a good scenario.''
FAIR DINKUM
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Yepsaintnick12 wrote:Very funny. .SainterK wrote:Oh, and it's a 'sashay'
Loved it when Ross said that in his interview after the Geelong game when Hamish asked if he would be moonwalking around his lounge room...
"I don't moonwalk, I sashay"
I gather that is what you are referring to.
The boys say it's a sashay as well...