If stevie J doesn't g for at least three weeks. I would be happy for baker to cop a week (very soft but when you have a 50% loading for a player running into you it will always cop you a week).
You cannot elbow a player in the head at that force and get away with it. The cats think the own this world but guess what pussys, the SAINTS ARE COMING!!!
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Johnson's only defence would be provocation and that has never been upheld in the history of the game as far as I know.
He'll get three I hope.
If Bakes cops more than one something is very wrong with the system. If he goes it will have to be for the little upper cut rather than the business about him hurting Stevie J's injured hand.
He'll get three I hope.
If Bakes cops more than one something is very wrong with the system. If he goes it will have to be for the little upper cut rather than the business about him hurting Stevie J's injured hand.
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there is a big thread going over at big footy about sam fisher allegedly punching an injured bartel in the arm as he was being helped off.
the geelong fans are blueing about it.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthrea ... 4&t=724106
the geelong fans are blueing about it.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthrea ... 4&t=724106
He barely touched his arm. If the pussies think that is a punch, they are softer than I thoughtbigcarl wrote:there is a big thread going over at big footy about sam fisher allegedly punching an injured bartel in the arm as he was being helped off.
the geelong fans are blueing about it.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthrea ... 4&t=724106
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The response to this whole thing is nothing short of baffling.
Storm in a teacup or what?
I wasn't at the game - I live in Qld - so I appreciate you might see some things at the ground that TV doesn't pick up. Even so, on the TV footage I saw (mind you through eyes soaked in a fine bottle of Barossa shiraz) there was a wild elbow from Johnson that started low and went high like he was trying to sink it through Baker's temple. Looked terrible, but couldn't say for certain it was the one that split Bakes open.
On the other side of the coin there was a half pulled Baker jumper punchish jab to SJ's chin that maybe/maybe not hit the target, a kind of dismissive Baker swat at SJ's wrist and a pretty innocuous looking love tap to SJ's guts of the type that you see maybe thirty times a game.
What's the big deal?
Baker was being Baker. Johnson was frustrated. Baker was nothing more than antagonistic and niggly, but Johnson went at Baker with apparent intent to maim.
Baker no case to answer.
Johnson 2-4 weeks.
The Fisher thing I had no idea about.
Storm in a teacup or what?
I wasn't at the game - I live in Qld - so I appreciate you might see some things at the ground that TV doesn't pick up. Even so, on the TV footage I saw (mind you through eyes soaked in a fine bottle of Barossa shiraz) there was a wild elbow from Johnson that started low and went high like he was trying to sink it through Baker's temple. Looked terrible, but couldn't say for certain it was the one that split Bakes open.
On the other side of the coin there was a half pulled Baker jumper punchish jab to SJ's chin that maybe/maybe not hit the target, a kind of dismissive Baker swat at SJ's wrist and a pretty innocuous looking love tap to SJ's guts of the type that you see maybe thirty times a game.
What's the big deal?
Baker was being Baker. Johnson was frustrated. Baker was nothing more than antagonistic and niggly, but Johnson went at Baker with apparent intent to maim.
Baker no case to answer.
Johnson 2-4 weeks.
The Fisher thing I had no idea about.
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Yikes - I must stop going to the footy and watching replays - The Fisher BumpSainterK wrote:I personally didn't like Baker hitting Johnsons hand, and I didn't like Fisher attempting to bump Bartel while going off in the hands of the trainers.
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I agree I hated seeing what Brisbane did to Roo and knowing his hand was injured Bakes probably pushed the buttons a bit too far.SainterK wrote:I personally didn't like Baker hitting Johnsons hand, and I didn't like Fisher attempting to bump Bartel while going off in the hands of the trainers.
Missed the other thing though, I just think if someone is injured though they should come off the field...
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Attempted, intention was there....I have no problem with a physical contest at all, but I just think our boys are better than that.derby Street wrote:Yikes - I must stop going to the footy and watching replays - The Fisher BumpSainterK wrote:I personally didn't like Baker hitting Johnsons hand, and I didn't like Fisher attempting to bump Bartel while going off in the hands of the trainers.
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Seriously...
I've just looked at the incidents again...
Baker's stuff is just part and parcel of a modern day run with job. Besides, as far as I can tell the whack to the midriff was more a forearm to the side (no vision of contact with the fist), and the tap on the chin was exaggerated by Johnson leaping backwards to attract attention to the incident. That tap to the hand, whilst probably unnecessary, wouldn't have torn tissue paper. It's not like a loose hand swinging in the breeze is a solid target...it'd be like whacking a totem tennis ball...
If Baker goes - which I don't think he should - then Mooney simply MUST go for whacking Blake. Vision showed closed fist to the jaw.
If Johnson DOESN'T go, something is very wrong. His elbow started low and went high. He, it seems from the footage, intended contact with the head.
Likely outcome?
Baker three to four... Everyone else gets off.
I've just looked at the incidents again...
Baker's stuff is just part and parcel of a modern day run with job. Besides, as far as I can tell the whack to the midriff was more a forearm to the side (no vision of contact with the fist), and the tap on the chin was exaggerated by Johnson leaping backwards to attract attention to the incident. That tap to the hand, whilst probably unnecessary, wouldn't have torn tissue paper. It's not like a loose hand swinging in the breeze is a solid target...it'd be like whacking a totem tennis ball...
If Baker goes - which I don't think he should - then Mooney simply MUST go for whacking Blake. Vision showed closed fist to the jaw.
If Johnson DOESN'T go, something is very wrong. His elbow started low and went high. He, it seems from the footage, intended contact with the head.
Likely outcome?
Baker three to four... Everyone else gets off.
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Fish only pushed Bartell with a clenched fist, a very soft push at that. I recorded the bit from the footy show on Sunday and replayed it ten times. Absolutely nothing to worry about.. then again he does play for nthe Saints so maybe I we should worry...chook23 wrote:Whilst not a lot in it.......think fisher wish he had not made contact with bartel when bartel leaving the ground injured....
Likely outcome?
any thoughts..
Does not look good....even though minor contact.
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As I mentioned not much in it but AFL made it quite clear any contact/interference would not be tolerated.supersaints wrote:Fish only pushed Bartell with a clenched fist, a very soft push at that. I recorded the bit from the footy show on Sunday and replayed it ten times. Absolutely nothing to worry about.. then again he does play for nthe Saints so maybe I we should worry...chook23 wrote:Whilst not a lot in it.......think fisher wish he had not made contact with bartel when bartel leaving the ground injured....
Likely outcome?
any thoughts..
Does not look good....even though minor contact.
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I see no problem with the punch on Stevie J hand as I saw no problem with the Birsbane attack on Rooey once he ran away from the trainers. If you are on the ground you are there to play. If you are injured go off.
However the feeling of the last four weeks has seen everything go against the tagger and everything for the eventual aggressor.
They say that provacation is not a defence but there is no other reason that Hall got a reprimand for nearly killing someone and Judd got off for the hit on Pav.
My prediction is Bakes will get one for striking because of his loading and Stevie J will get 1 or maybe a reprimand because they will say it was neglegent and low impact and head high contact.
However the feeling of the last four weeks has seen everything go against the tagger and everything for the eventual aggressor.
They say that provacation is not a defence but there is no other reason that Hall got a reprimand for nearly killing someone and Judd got off for the hit on Pav.
My prediction is Bakes will get one for striking because of his loading and Stevie J will get 1 or maybe a reprimand because they will say it was neglegent and low impact and head high contact.
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I personally believe that what Brisbane did to Roo, was the difference between them being a 3-time Premiership team, and them being an 'also ran'.St Michele wrote:I agree I hated seeing what Brisbane did to Roo and knowing his hand was injured Bakes probably pushed the buttons a bit too far.SainterK wrote:I personally didn't like Baker hitting Johnsons hand, and I didn't like Fisher attempting to bump Bartel while going off in the hands of the trainers.
Missed the other thing though, I just think if someone is injured though they should come off the field...
What Baker and Fisher did on Friday night, and the attitude displayed in doing it, could be the difference between us being a Premiership team or an 'also ran'.