Saints build high-altitude van to aid Riewoldt recovery

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Saints build high-altitude van to aid Riewoldt recovery

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It's kind of funny that Collingwood have high altitude rooms, and we have a caravan :lol:


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SainterK wrote:It's kind of funny that Collingwood have high altitude rooms, and we have a caravan :lol:
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But seriously it really is fantastic to see sponsors have impact like this on the club beyond simply buying a few seats to overpriced functions etc. It has a much greater effect on my attitude towards the company than your name appearing on the banner.


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A new version of the
"Caravan of Courage" a la Hamish & Andy.

The Van de Roo :)


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Gives the Freo coach something else to whinge about.


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But we are going higher :wink:
The hypoxic filter system pumps low-oxygen air into the van, and can emulate the thin air of the Mount Everest base camp, about 6000 metres above sea level.

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High altitude is a buzz-word among AFL clubs. Collingwood has an altitude chamber at the Westpac Centre, and Carlton has one at the refurbished Visy Park. Those facilities can simulate altitudes of 2500 metres.
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I presume this can be moved to the new facility at Seaford?


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Super interesting, It will be very intriguing to see how the positive and negative effects affect Roo. Don't know how much this sort of thing has been used for in season training before.

The results for training at high altitude's are proven, and while they diminish over time, the positive effects obtained can obviously help and individual obtain a higher level of fitness, and the adaptions assoiciated with training at a high altitude can last for upto 4 weeks without altitude exposure, so in theory they could have him in there upto round 22, and stop him using it during finals, and still reap the full benefits without the negatives.


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Post: # 943638Post markp »

This is interesting... maybe it needs to be bigger, so they can all sleep in there!
Live high, train low

Athletes or individuals who wish to gain a competitive edge for endurance events can take advantage of exercising at high altitude. High altitude is typically defined as any elevation above 5,000 feet (1,500 m).

One suggestion for optimizing adaptations and maintaining performance is the live-high, train-low principle. This training idea involves living at higher altitudes in order to experience the physiological adaptations that occur, such as increased Erythropoietin(EPO) levels, increased Red Blood Cell levels, and higher VO2 max, while maintaining the same exercise intensity during training at sea level. Due to the environmental differences at high altitude, it may be necessary to decrease the intensity of workouts. Studies examining the live-high, train-low theory have produced varied results, which may be dependent on a variety of factors such as individual variability, time spent at high altitude, and the type of training program.[8][9] For example, it has been shown that athletes performing primarily anaerobic activity do not necessarily benefit from altitude training as they do not rely on oxygen to fuel their performances.

Altitude training can produce increases in speed, strength, endurance, and recovery by maintaining altitude exposure for a significant period of time. A study using simulated altitude exposure for 18 days, yet training closer to sea-level, showed performance gains were still evident 15 days later.[10]

Opponents of altitude training argue that an athlete's red blood cell concentration returns to normal levels within days of returning to sea level and that it is impossible to train at the same intensity that one could at sea level, reducing the training effect and wasting training time due to altitude sickness.

[edit]Artificial altitude
Altitude simulation systems have enabled protocols that do not suffer from the tension between better altitude physiology and more intense workouts. Such simulated altitude systems can be utilized closer to competition if necessary.

For example, in Finland, a scientist named Heikki Rusko has designed a "high-altitude house." The air inside the house, which is situated at sea level, is at normal pressure but modified to have a low concentration of oxygen, about 15.3% (below the 20.9% at sea level), which is similar to the concentrations at the high altitudes often used for altitude training. Athletes live and sleep inside the house, but perform their training outside (at normal oxygen concentrations at 20.9%). Rusko's results show improvements of EPO and red-cell levels. His technology has been commercialized and is being used by thousands of competitive athletes in cycling, triathlon, olympic endurance sports, professional football, basketball, hockey, soccer, and many other sports that can take advantage of the improvements in strength, speed, endurance, and recovery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altitude_training


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Well done Gerry Ryan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Also from memory Gerry may have been on the old Board (though we seem to have quite a few from the old Board on the new board!!!) that was asked to move on...if so great that he bares no grudges.


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saintlee wrote:I presume this can be moved to the new facility at Seaford?
Pic looks like a portable office. Builder is Jayco....and so I would say yes.


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Maybe this defuses the myth that all the altitude training that Collingwood does during the off-season on really assists if someone is injured hence why other clubs have not done so.


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SainterK wrote:It's kind of funny that Collingwood have high altitude rooms, and we have a caravan :lol:
Its so it can be moved to Seaford


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ozrulestrace wrote:A new version of the
"Caravan of Courage" a la Hamish & Andy.

The Van de Roo :)
The CaROOvan :?


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35...LEGEND wrote:
ozrulestrace wrote:A new version of the
"Caravan of Courage" a la Hamish & Andy.

The Van de Roo :)
The CaROOvan :?
The JaycoRoo... :?


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markp wrote:This is interesting... maybe it needs to be bigger, so they can all sleep in there!
Live high, train low

Athletes or individuals who wish to gain a competitive edge for endurance events can take advantage of exercising at high altitude. High altitude is typically defined as any elevation above 5,000 feet (1,500 m).

One suggestion for optimizing adaptations and maintaining performance is the live-high, train-low principle. This training idea involves living at higher altitudes in order to experience the physiological adaptations that occur, such as increased Erythropoietin(EPO) levels, increased Red Blood Cell levels, and higher VO2 max, while maintaining the same exercise intensity during training at sea level. Due to the environmental differences at high altitude, it may be necessary to decrease the intensity of workouts. Studies examining the live-high, train-low theory have produced varied results, which may be dependent on a variety of factors such as individual variability, time spent at high altitude, and the type of training program.[8][9] For example, it has been shown that athletes performing primarily anaerobic activity do not necessarily benefit from altitude training as they do not rely on oxygen to fuel their performances.

Altitude training can produce increases in speed, strength, endurance, and recovery by maintaining altitude exposure for a significant period of time. A study using simulated altitude exposure for 18 days, yet training closer to sea-level, showed performance gains were still evident 15 days later.[10]

Opponents of altitude training argue that an athlete's red blood cell concentration returns to normal levels within days of returning to sea level and that it is impossible to train at the same intensity that one could at sea level, reducing the training effect and wasting training time due to altitude sickness.

[edit]Artificial altitude
Altitude simulation systems have enabled protocols that do not suffer from the tension between better altitude physiology and more intense workouts. Such simulated altitude systems can be utilized closer to competition if necessary.

For example, in Finland, a scientist named Heikki Rusko has designed a "high-altitude house." The air inside the house, which is situated at sea level, is at normal pressure but modified to have a low concentration of oxygen, about 15.3% (below the 20.9% at sea level), which is similar to the concentrations at the high altitudes often used for altitude training. Athletes live and sleep inside the house, but perform their training outside (at normal oxygen concentrations at 20.9%). Rusko's results show improvements of EPO and red-cell levels. His technology has been commercialized and is being used by thousands of competitive athletes in cycling, triathlon, olympic endurance sports, professional football, basketball, hockey, soccer, and many other sports that can take advantage of the improvements in strength, speed, endurance, and recovery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altitude_training
The Socceroos might have gone down 6-0 to the Germans if they didn't do the high altitude training in Jo-burg.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 911850.htm


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busso mick wrote: The Socceroos might have gone down 6-0 to the Germans if they didn't do the high altitude training in Jo-burg.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 911850.htm
"We are at about 1,600 metres here. That is not an altitude that will enhance your performance but it is an altitude that you have to get used to so that you don't get a decrease in performance towards the end of the match," he said.
The problem with the Socceroos is they're too old and the coach is a spud.


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markp wrote:
busso mick wrote: The Socceroos might have gone down 6-0 to the Germans if they didn't do the high altitude training in Jo-burg.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 911850.htm
"We are at about 1,600 metres here. That is not an altitude that will enhance your performance but it is an altitude that you have to get used to so that you don't get a decrease in performance towards the end of the match," he said.
The problem with the Socceroos is they're too old and the coach is a spud.
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GoTheTorp wrote:
SainterK wrote:It's kind of funny that Collingwood have high altitude rooms, and we have a caravan :lol:
Its so it can be moved to Seaford
and it can also be used to go up the coast during Rooies days off. :D


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Pim is a fkn surrender monkey.


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I would imagine we would have proper rooms at Seaford, not a portable.


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markp wrote:
35...LEGEND wrote:
ozrulestrace wrote:A new version of the
"Caravan of Courage" a la Hamish & Andy.

The Van de Roo :)
The CaROOvan :?
The JaycoRoo... :?
Yes, better than the Jayco Swan or Jayco Hawk or Jayco Eagle.

About time Gerry built a JaycoSaint.


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Moorabbin Saints wrote:I would imagine we would have proper rooms at Seaford, not a portable.
Well its a portable right now because we are moving, who knowes what will be down at Seaford, its set up its ready to go, put it on a truck and plug it in at the other end. Its only a sealed room per se with less oxygen being pumped into it (bit more to it then that), it aint rocket science but it does cost $$$ to set it up.


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Saintsfan wrote:Maybe this defuses the myth that all the altitude training that Collingwood does during the off-season on really assists if someone is injured hence why other clubs have not done so.
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