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An observation about Kosi

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One thing I noticed about Kosi last Sunday was when he was leading for a mark he appeared to get off balance in his stride and this meant his leap for the ball was slightly off kilter as well. At the moment of marking his momentum was not straight at the ball and could have been a factor in him spilling some marks. It reminded me of the athetes at the end of a 100m race lunging at the line and sometimes losing their balance. In comparison McEvoy (although slower) runs straighter at the ball and appears more balanced at the time of marking.

Has anyone else noticed this about Kosi as well? I know he has had his fair share of leg injuries over the years and this may affect his running action. If he was a car I would book him in for a wheel balance.


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busso mick wrote: If he was a car I would book him in for a wheel balance.
He might just need his nuts tightened.


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GrumpyOne wrote:
busso mick wrote: If he was a car I would book him in for a wheel balance.
He might just need his nuts tightened.
Maybe book him in to see Terry "Squirrel Grip" Wheeler. :)


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i think he's taking his eye off the ball.


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It might sound weird, but I think post-Roo Kosi was trying too hard.

On the weekend, he was obviously a lot better. He seemed more relaxed, gloved some marks and kicked some goals. Seemed to be enjoying himself. Moved around the ground (and through the ruck) at ease, without running himself absolutely ragged.

For mine, it was the first step back to a confident, dangerous, damaging Kosi.


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GrumpyOne wrote:
busso mick wrote: If he was a car I would book him in for a wheel balance.
He might just need his nuts tightened.
Someone did that for him in the third quarter.


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Quixote wrote:It might sound weird, but I think post-Roo Kosi was trying too hard.

On the weekend, he was obviously a lot better. He seemed more relaxed, gloved some marks and kicked some goals. Seemed to be enjoying himself. Moved around the ground (and through the ruck) at ease, without running himself absolutely ragged.

For mine, it was the first step back to a confident, dangerous, damaging Kosi.
Some good points there Quixote, I don't know what sort of pre-season he had but fitness could have been an issue. He was getting in front at the marking contests and his marking & field play was up on previous weeks. He certainly had the big smile while chairing Milney from the ground. A firing Kosi is big plus for us in the second half off the year.


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Quixote wrote:It might sound weird, but I think post-Roo Kosi was trying too hard.

On the weekend, he was obviously a lot better. He seemed more relaxed, gloved some marks and kicked some goals. Seemed to be enjoying himself. Moved around the ground (and through the ruck) at ease, without running himself absolutely ragged.

For mine, it was the first step back to a confident, dangerous, damaging Kosi.
It is not weird it is correct. Maybe he put pressure on himself to preform or step it up a wee bit and through this he began to try too hard, confidence discounted and his output decreased.

I think that the Fremantle game played him back into a bit of form and I was happy with his performance.


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busso mick wrote:
Quixote wrote:It might sound weird, but I think post-Roo Kosi was trying too hard.

On the weekend, he was obviously a lot better. He seemed more relaxed, gloved some marks and kicked some goals. Seemed to be enjoying himself. Moved around the ground (and through the ruck) at ease, without running himself absolutely ragged.

For mine, it was the first step back to a confident, dangerous, damaging Kosi.
Some good points there Quixote, I don't know what sort of pre-season he had but fitness could have been an issue. He was getting in front at the marking contests and his marking & field play was up on previous weeks. He certainly had the big smile while chairing Milney from the ground. A firing Kosi is big plus for us in the second half off the year.
You never know, busting his gut, running himself ragged week after week post-Roo (without much result, and at times I might add, without much help from the ball-kickers) might have delivered Kosi a new-found fitness peak!


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Not sure if you if were at the game on Sunday but I think the incident you mention Kosi was actualy impeded by Grover as he went for the mark. I too thought Kosi might have had a vision problem but in that case he slipped and was almost tripped as he went for the mark after watching the replay.
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Post: # 943032Post saintspremiers »

That was Kosi's best game of the year IMO....or perhaps Round 1 vs Sydney was better, close call no the less.

He was WAY better vs Freo than he has been for ages......improvement is the key.....a big game may be around the corner.


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wasoncestkil58 wrote:Not sure if you if were at the game on Sunday but I think the incident you mention Kosi was actualy impeded by Grover as he went for the mark. I too thought Kosi might have had a vision problem but in that case he slipped and was almost tripped as he went for the mark after watching the replay.
By the way hi Busso Mick. Ron
It was an accidental trip. Grover lost his feet, Clipped Kosi's feet, and the big guy fell really awkwardly. For a second I though 's***, that'd be right, Kosi's found another really ridiculous way to get hurt' but thankfully he got up fine.

I agree with the 'trying too hard' sentiment. He's been busting his arse trying to make something happen, but it hasn't.

No surprise that Kosi's best game and increased confidence has coincided somewhat with Milne presenting as a target rather than just sniffing for crumbs. IMO anyway.


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I think the key words in this thread are Kosi, Ruck, Happy.

(Not full time, just rotating through there)


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Post: # 943109Post GoTheTorp »

Kosies forte is the contested mark, hasnt been getting them with any consistency for ages. Last week he started showing signes he was getting back on deck and i hope he continues.


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Post: # 943126Post Bernard Shakey »

SainterK wrote:I think the key words in this thread are Kosi, Ruck, Happy.

(Not full time, just rotating through there)
He is not, never has been and never will be capable of playing as a ruckman.

I'm happy for him to play full forward. He can't get into too much trouble there.


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Bernard Shakey wrote:
I'm happy for him to play full forward.

.....he will be so relieved..... :roll: :roll: :roll:


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stinger wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:
I'm happy for him to play full forward.

.....he will be so relieved..... :roll: :roll: :roll:
BS hates Kosi, pure and simple.


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Bernard Shakey wrote:
SainterK wrote:I think the key words in this thread are Kosi, Ruck, Happy.

(Not full time, just rotating through there)
He is not, never has been and never will be capable of playing as a ruckman.

I'm happy for him to play full forward. He can't get into too much trouble there.
Funny - when he went into the ruck on Sunday, the commentators were saying how he was really worrying Sandliands and doing a great job. He is, he can and he should be used in the ruck as a pinch hitter. Gives him a chance to gallop around without a defender up his ginger. He gets to run and jump at a few contests without defenders assigned to specifically take out his run at the ball as well.


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Moods wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:
SainterK wrote:I think the key words in this thread are Kosi, Ruck, Happy.

(Not full time, just rotating through there)
He is not, never has been and never will be capable of playing as a ruckman.

I'm happy for him to play full forward. He can't get into too much trouble there.
Funny - when he went into the ruck on Sunday, the commentators were saying how he was really worrying Sandliands and doing a great job. He is, he can and he should be used in the ruck as a pinch hitter. Gives him a chance to gallop around without a defender up his ginger. He gets to run and jump at a few contests without defenders assigned to specifically take out his run at the ball as well.
I agree, I am not saying all the time, just bursts in there. He was only in there for a short time, and got 5 hitouts (compared with McEvoys 6 for the day) and was very capable.

Anyway, this isn't even so much about being the best ruckman, it's about time in the ruck making him (I believe) a better forward.


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Bernard Shakey wrote:
SainterK wrote:I think the key words in this thread are Kosi, Ruck, Happy.

(Not full time, just rotating through there)
He is not, never has been and never will be capable of playing as a ruckman.

I'm happy for him to play full forward. He can't get into too much trouble there.
I don't think he's a full time ruckman (nor does he need to be with McEvoy and Gardiner running around), but his body work on Sandilands was, I thoughty, pretty impressive. Sandilands is great when all he has to do is stand there and tap. Kosi was banging into him and making him work and making the fall of the ball more than a 50/50 in our favour.

To be honest, young Ben could've learned a thing or two.

Watch the replay.


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