Lets be serious about Kosi
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Lets be serious about Kosi
Last week at three quarter time we called Lenny best on the ground. I hate bagging one player but Kosi is just about worst again tonight.
What does the club do?
What does the club do?
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Re: Lets be serious about Kosi
Call on gold coast to pick him up?plugger66 wrote:Last week at three quarter time we called Lenny best on the ground. I hate bagging one player but Kosi is just about worst again tonight.
What does the club do?
Serious note : something has to be done with this bloke he is doing #23 complete damage, he is no good..... he has been no good for quiet some time,
every week now days he has been getting next to nothing.
His hands just aren't there. The few times he has got to it tonight it either bounces off his mits or slides straight through.
He has to be down on confidence in his ability to take a contested mark. Some time at Sandy to regain some of that couldn't hurt.
Having said that, He's not the only tall target up forward tonight who hasnt been able to take a mark in the forward 50
He has to be down on confidence in his ability to take a contested mark. Some time at Sandy to regain some of that couldn't hurt.
Having said that, He's not the only tall target up forward tonight who hasnt been able to take a mark in the forward 50
Re: Lets be serious about Kosi
His confidence is seemingly shot. This obviously has a side effect with his ability to take contested marks which were his weapon.plugger66 wrote:Last week at three quarter time we called Lenny best on the ground. I hate bagging one player but Kosi is just about worst again tonight.
What does the club do?
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And when was the last time he kicked a decent score?ttufc7 wrote:His hands just aren't there. The few times he has got to it tonight it either bounces off his mits or slides straight through.
He has to be down on confidence in his ability to take a contested mark. Some time at Sandy to regain some of that couldn't hurt.
Having said that, He's not the only tall target up forward tonight who hasnt been able to take a mark in the forward 50
when was the last time he ever won a game off his own foot.?
or even done something
why do we protect kosi
he needs to be dropped.!!!
No he doesn't. I would be happy to play him against the Tigers all things considering. A run with the seconds will not assist him.Ralphy wrote:And when was the last time he kicked a decent score?ttufc7 wrote:His hands just aren't there. The few times he has got to it tonight it either bounces off his mits or slides straight through.
He has to be down on confidence in his ability to take a contested mark. Some time at Sandy to regain some of that couldn't hurt.
Having said that, He's not the only tall target up forward tonight who hasnt been able to take a mark in the forward 50
when was the last time he ever won a game off his own foot.?
or even done something
why do we protect kosi
he needs to be dropped.!!!
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Im not protecting him at all in fact i've said some time at Sandy to regain some confidence couldnt hurt.Ralphy wrote:And when was the last time he kicked a decent score?ttufc7 wrote:His hands just aren't there. The few times he has got to it tonight it either bounces off his mits or slides straight through.
He has to be down on confidence in his ability to take a contested mark. Some time at Sandy to regain some of that couldn't hurt.
Having said that, He's not the only tall target up forward tonight who hasnt been able to take a mark in the forward 50
when was the last time he ever won a game off his own foot.?
or even done something
why do we protect kosi
he needs to be dropped.!!!
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kosi needs to be dropped!Saintsfan wrote:No he doesn't. I would be happy to play him against the Tigers all things considering. A run with the seconds will not assist him.Ralphy wrote:And when was the last time he kicked a decent score?ttufc7 wrote:His hands just aren't there. The few times he has got to it tonight it either bounces off his mits or slides straight through.
He has to be down on confidence in his ability to take a contested mark. Some time at Sandy to regain some of that couldn't hurt.
Having said that, He's not the only tall target up forward tonight who hasnt been able to take a mark in the forward 50
when was the last time he ever won a game off his own foot.?
or even done something
why do we protect kosi
he needs to be dropped.!!!
not watching the game but looking at the stats, its not looking good with 1 mark.
If he is not kicking goals and not getting much of the ball, would it be better to replace him with someone who may not kick a lot of goals but gets a lot more of the ball? Would that offer more for the team.
But then you have to think about what him crashing packs and taking a primary defender does for the team. I'm glad I don't have to make the decision.
If he is not kicking goals and not getting much of the ball, would it be better to replace him with someone who may not kick a lot of goals but gets a lot more of the ball? Would that offer more for the team.
But then you have to think about what him crashing packs and taking a primary defender does for the team. I'm glad I don't have to make the decision.
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He needs to go to Sandy and work his back in to the team.
He can make us look slow and clumsy and doesnt read the play too well.
I really like Stanley and Goddard up front with the smalls buzzing around. Its unpredictable and exciting when these guys are involved.
He can make us look slow and clumsy and doesnt read the play too well.
I really like Stanley and Goddard up front with the smalls buzzing around. Its unpredictable and exciting when these guys are involved.
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really like stanley and BJ up thereFinna wrote:He needs to go to Sandy and work his back in to the team.
He can make us look slow and clumsy and doesnt read the play too well.
I really like Stanley and Goddard up front with the smalls buzzing around. Its unpredictable and exciting when these guys are involved.
even montagna, Woah. well done mate.
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agree. kosi might need a spell at sandy and then bring him back in the ruck if he can regain some touch.Finna wrote:I really like Stanley and Goddard up front with the smalls buzzing around. Its unpredictable and exciting when these guys are involved.
what did everyone think of gardy's and mcevoy's game?
Kosi cant ruck. He either plays forward or we could use him at Ormond. Maybe be able to ruck in C grade amatuers.bigcarl wrote:agree. kosi might need a spell at sandy and then bring him back in the ruck if he can regain some touch.Finna wrote:I really like Stanley and Goddard up front with the smalls buzzing around. Its unpredictable and exciting when these guys are involved.
what did everyone think of gardy's and mcevoy's game?
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i beg to differ. kosi might not be the world's greatest tap ruckman, but he offers plenty around the ground ... and goals when drifting forward.plugger66 wrote:Kosi cant ruck. He either plays forward or we could use him at Ormond. Maybe be able to ruck in C grade amatuers.
at the moment his confidence is shot to pieces and he needs a spell in the twos to fix it.
i'm sure you could use him at Ormond, but that isn't going to happen.
To be fair, that is exactly what most people have been saying for several weeks now, including myself.AlpineStars wrote:Keep him in for the Richmond game he needs to find form maybe he can do it next week.
Milne and Dal Santo were dropped a few years ago, at this point Kosi is not playing well enough to be an exception. I think Ross will make the change this week.
I started this thread but not a hope in the world Kosi will be dropped. Structure, structure and more structure. That is why Zac was never going to be dropped.Griggsy wrote:To be fair, that is exactly what most people have been saying for several weeks now, including myself.AlpineStars wrote:Keep him in for the Richmond game he needs to find form maybe he can do it next week.
Milne and Dal Santo were dropped a few years ago, at this point Kosi is not playing well enough to be an exception. I think Ross will make the change this week.
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But Kosi isnt holding our structure together - he's limiting it.plugger66 wrote:I started this thread but not a hope in the world Kosi will be dropped. Structure, structure and more structure. That is why Zac was never going to be dropped.Griggsy wrote:To be fair, that is exactly what most people have been saying for several weeks now, including myself.AlpineStars wrote:Keep him in for the Richmond game he needs to find form maybe he can do it next week.
Milne and Dal Santo were dropped a few years ago, at this point Kosi is not playing well enough to be an exception. I think Ross will make the change this week.
I like the look of a few different structures that I saw tonight.
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+1Saintsfan wrote:No he doesn't. I would be happy to play him against the Tigers all things considering. A run with the seconds will not assist him.Ralphy wrote:And when was the last time he kicked a decent score?ttufc7 wrote:His hands just aren't there. The few times he has got to it tonight it either bounces off his mits or slides straight through.
He has to be down on confidence in his ability to take a contested mark. Some time at Sandy to regain some of that couldn't hurt.
Having said that, He's not the only tall target up forward tonight who hasnt been able to take a mark in the forward 50
when was the last time he ever won a game off his own foot.?
or even done something
why do we protect kosi
he needs to be dropped.!!!
Dropping him to Sandy wont do anything. Hell he might even play worse with them. I reckon swap Kosi and Gardiner in the ruck and leave Ben down forward.
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I think the problem with Kosi is twofold. One is he is down on confidence. The fact that he takes a mark in the fourth quarter sixty out and his own supporters give him a sarcastic jeer certainly would not help him, I definitely hung my head at that moment.
Secondly, he's now getting either one, or often both, of the other teams best defenders. When Riewoldt plays he absorbs at least one, if not both of those, and Kosi is left with a much more achievable match up. I don't want to see Kosi discarded, I would persevere. Dropping him will only help his confidence if he monsters the VFL full backs, and then we're left with one tall forward in Stanley.
Secondly, he's now getting either one, or often both, of the other teams best defenders. When Riewoldt plays he absorbs at least one, if not both of those, and Kosi is left with a much more achievable match up. I don't want to see Kosi discarded, I would persevere. Dropping him will only help his confidence if he monsters the VFL full backs, and then we're left with one tall forward in Stanley.
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Yep - just interviewed Monty on 3AW and he said as much - he said the boys are right behind Kosi and while he keeps presenting and working hard at ground level thats all they ask - he said he is working hard during the week and and it is only time before he turns it around - in short the players love him in the sideplugger66 wrote:I started this thread but not a hope in the world Kosi will be dropped. Structure, structure and more structure. That is why Zac was never going to be dropped.Griggsy wrote:To be fair, that is exactly what most people have been saying for several weeks now, including myself.AlpineStars wrote:Keep him in for the Richmond game he needs to find form maybe he can do it next week.
Milne and Dal Santo were dropped a few years ago, at this point Kosi is not playing well enough to be an exception. I think Ross will make the change this week.
So for all you Kosi haters suck it up because it sounds like he is in the side to stay
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I dont think you have to be a Kosi hater to say he is palying badly. Surely even you agree about that.Devilhead wrote:Yep - just interviewed Monty on 3AW and he said as much - he said the boys are right behind Kosi and while he keeps presenting and working hard at ground level thats all they ask - he said he is working hard during the week and and it is only time before he turns it around - in short the players love him in the sideplugger66 wrote:I started this thread but not a hope in the world Kosi will be dropped. Structure, structure and more structure. That is why Zac was never going to be dropped.Griggsy wrote:To be fair, that is exactly what most people have been saying for several weeks now, including myself.AlpineStars wrote:Keep him in for the Richmond game he needs to find form maybe he can do it next week.
Milne and Dal Santo were dropped a few years ago, at this point Kosi is not playing well enough to be an exception. I think Ross will make the change this week.
So for all you Kosi haters eat s***