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[samoht]

I don't understand why people don't like this move. Eddy will give us some solid contested work around the ground to help Lenny - we can't expect him to do it all every week. And while it's exciting to see Nick Heyne get the pill, it hasn't happened that much over the last 2 weeks.

Did you honestly expect Heyne to win a lot of ball at hff - where everyone has failed before him (including Eddy as he would have otherwise made it his by now).
I'm a fan of Eddy's and I like his hard work ... but also of pace and I'm sure Heyne would also have got a lot more of the ball in the midfield if he was given that chance.

We wont know what Heyne can offer in the midfield now.

[busso mick]

I don't understand why people don't like this move. Eddy will give us some solid contested work around the ground to help Lenny - we can't expect him to do it all every week. And while it's exciting to see Nick Heyne get the pill, it hasn't happened that much over the last 2 weeks.

Did you honestly expect Heyne to win a lot of ball at hff - where everyone has failed before him (including Eddy as he would have otherwise made it his by now).
I'm a fan of Eddy's and I like his hard work ... but also of pace and I'm sure Heyne would also have got a lot more of the ball in the midfield if he was given that chance.

We wont know what Heyne can offer in the midfield now.

Has Heyne played much in the midfield for Sandy or in his junior days? I was only aware of him being an opportunist forward type.

[MCG-Unit]

Eddy was terrific against Port Adelaide, he was very stiff to be dropped after the way he performed. He kicked it really well.

Yes, happy with that inclusion, Eddy was quite good in his only game this year
Unlucky to have been dropped IMO

[starsign]

good constructive discussion this one
should be more of it without the all too familiar personal excretia that occurs on here and often turns one off from participating in worthwhile discussions!!

anyway it's interesting to read others comments as to what the selectors may have in mind week by week, which for me is
grass roots stuff compared with a lot of the other diatribe on here!

[plugger66]

Seems like RL thinks its time to rest Heyne. I would imagine he will be the player held out this week whilst the other two emergencies play at Sandy.


It is more likely that for thisweek Eddy will get a bit more of the ball than Heyne as well.

How come? What's your line of thinking here P66?

Well Eddy got about 15 in his one game and Heyne got that many in two.

Heyne played hff (a much more difficult position) and got about 20 plus possessions in 2 - plus provided forward pressure.

Let's see where Eddy is played and see how many he gets if it's hff.

Eddy played HFF as well. Dont lets stats get in the way of your story though. Heyne had 15 in 2 games not 20 plus.

He's got a point though P66
And don't you get too carried away with statistics , often in the way the game is played today they can be very misleading, and Eddy wasn't stuck out on "the graveyard" for his full time on the field

There's lies, damn lies then there's footy statistics M8!

I was hoping Heyne would play. i am just trying to think of a reason RL picked Eddy over Heyne.

By the way I think stats are crap. I just said he would get more of the ball than Heyne IMO and you challenged me on it. I had to come up with something to back up my arguement.

[samoht]

I don't understand why people don't like this move. Eddy will give us some solid contested work around the ground to help Lenny - we can't expect him to do it all every week. And while it's exciting to see Nick Heyne get the pill, it hasn't happened that much over the last 2 weeks.

Did you honestly expect Heyne to win a lot of ball at hff - where everyone has failed before him (including Eddy as he would have otherwise made it his by now).
I'm a fan of Eddy's and I like his hard work ... but also of pace and I'm sure Heyne would also have got a lot more of the ball in the midfield if he was given that chance.

We wont know what Heyne can offer in the midfield now.

Has Heyne played much in the midfield for Sandy or in his junior days? I was only aware of him being an opportunist forward type.

I think he was tried just recently in the midfield and did quite well for Sandy ?? .. I thought that's why he got a chance.

[meher baba]

I reckon Eddy is much closer to AFL standard than Heyne, Armo or Steven ATM.

I would rate Geary closer to the mark than any of the four mentioned above, but he seems to have gone suddenly out of favour for some reason.

saintsRrising, you are deluded if you are suggesting that Eddy's kicking is anywhere near being up to scratch. Eddy is ok receiving and disposing of the ball by hand, is a good positional player, a willing worker and a hard tackler, but his passes by foot are long, slow and looping and make it easy for the opposition to move in on the recipient.

If it had been up to me, I'd have brought back Geary. But it wasn't, and I reckon Eddy will do ok. All of these guys are fringe players (as will be Gwilt soon enough if he can't improve on last week's effort).

I'm starting to agree with those who see McQualter as being a bit lucky to hold on to his spot.

[kp83]

I don't understand why people don't like this move. Eddy will give us some solid contested work around the ground to help Lenny - we can't expect him to do it all every week. And while it's exciting to see Nick Heyne get the pill, it hasn't happened that much over the last 2 weeks.

Did you honestly expect Heyne to win a lot of ball at hff - where everyone has failed before him (including Eddy as he would have otherwise made it his by now).
I'm a fan of Eddy's and I like his hard work ... but also of pace and I'm sure Heyne would also have got a lot more of the ball in the midfield if he was given that chance.

We wont know what Heyne can offer in the midfield now.

How do you know Heyne would win a lot more of the ball in the midfield? You say that like it is easy for anyone to do that, but I dare say he would not win as much contested ball as Eddy. Armo only got 10 touches against the Dogs and played predominantly midfield (and has been in the system for 2 years more than Heyne). It's not a guarantee.
Let's not also forget about defensive work (a cornerstone of our game) and spread from a contest. Eddy does these things really well.

[saintsRrising]

saintsRrising, you are deluded if you are suggesting that Eddy's kicking is anywhere near being up to scratch. .

I said he had ok disposal in hist last game which was the PA one. (and that in 2009 he was not ok).

I suggest you re-watch the game and then re-evaluate which of us was delusal about Eddies disposals in that game.

[Spinner]

Eddy impressed me in his limited game time during the last match.

And although im not a massive fan - Im comfortable with his inclusion.



Now if only Geary Eddy Steven or Armitage could take the next step.


I've been a supporter of McQualter for a long time - But im shocked how he is still being played, cant see him elevating to the next level anytime soon.

[St Fidelius]

I reckon Eddy is much closer to AFL standard than Heyne, Armo or Steven ATM.

I would rate Geary closer to the mark than any of the four mentioned above, but he seems to have gone suddenly out of favour for some reason.

saintsRrising, you are deluded if you are suggesting that Eddy's kicking is anywhere near being up to scratch. Eddy is ok receiving and disposing of the ball by hand, is a good positional player, a willing worker and a hard tackler, but his passes by foot are long, slow and looping and make it easy for the opposition to move in on the recipient.

If it had been up to me, I'd have brought back Geary. But it wasn't, and I reckon Eddy will do ok. All of these guys are fringe players (as will be Gwilt soon enough if he can't improve on last week's effort).

I'm starting to agree with those who see McQualter as being a bit lucky to hold on to his spot.

I thought that Mini had a better year last year to this year to date, but going on stats alone there is not too much difference.

Last Year Average Disposals 14.4 Marks 2.5 Tackles 4.7 Goals 0.9 per match.

This Year Average Disposals 13.7 Marks 4.3 Tackles 3.8 Goals 0.3 per match.

There is not that much difference, Mini's tackle count is down, but so is the side as a whole.

The goal scoring is down but so is the side without Roo.

At the same time last year we scored 145 goals 104 behinds

This year at the same time after R9 is 110 goals 73 behinds

[bigcarl]

At the same time last year we scored 145 goals 104 behinds. This year at the same time after R9 is 110 goals 73 behinds

i knew it was bad, but crikey! we really miss a regular goalkicking key forward.

[St Fidelius]

The biggest surprise is in the Adelaide Side with Tyson Edwards decision of announcing his retirement effective immediately...

This bloke was averaging over 21 disposals and 4 tackles a match this year and was one of Adelaide's top 5 players this year.

[plugger66]

The biggest surprise is in the Adelaide Side with Tyson Edwards decision of announcing his retirement effective immediately...

This bloke was averaging over 21 disposals and 4 tackles a match this year and was one of Adelaide's top 5 players this year.

Couldnt be going to well and he was dropped this week.

[saintspremiers]

The biggest surprise is in the Adelaide Side with Tyson Edwards decision of announcing his retirement effective immediately...

This bloke was averaging over 21 disposals and 4 tackles a match this year and was one of Adelaide's top 5 players this year.

Couldnt be going to well and he was dropped this week.

He retired.

Who knows, maybe he slept with someone he shouldn't have?

[plugger66]

The biggest surprise is in the Adelaide Side with Tyson Edwards decision of announcing his retirement effective immediately...

This bloke was averaging over 21 disposals and 4 tackles a match this year and was one of Adelaide's top 5 players this year.

Couldnt be going to well and he was dropped this week.

He retired.

Who knows, maybe he slept with someone he shouldn't have?

He retired because he was dropped though.

[saintbrat]

Congrats Alistair on getting selected. even if just emergency...

[Bernard Shakey]

What excuses will be used when Zac and Mini fail to perform again.

I will not be happy if these two cost us a game we should win quite easily.

Ross must have his reasons, but they are beyond me.

Also thought Heyne deserved another game.

[Ghost Like]

Not sure I can get too excited about these revolving door type players such as Geary & Eddy but I do believe they give effort, play to instruction and leave everything on the field.

I do believe there will be some in the side getting a touch nervous with each game one J. Smith plays for Sandy though. Zac for one would be getting even more jitters not that Jesse would play full back but he could certainly fill a tall running spot in the backline.

Tom Lynch will also cause some waves in our best 22 (once he gets more game time and fitness for Sandy), hopefully allowing BJ more time to set up plays, especially those entries into the forward 50.

There are only two out injured who are automatics, Roo & Gram. There are also two IMO who offer the Saints an X factor but they are some time off and they are Walsh & Winmar.

Heyne, Steven & Armitage need to start working as if they are on their last chance (not that any are) to lift their rating as any of them have the ability to command a sppot in our best 22. If they don't then I fear their careers may stall and at best they will join our 'revolving doors'.

[mustangjack]

agree

Has DAWSON & McQUALTER got photos of LYON in intimate positions with ????????

You have to wonder what DAWSON has to do to get dropped ? Poor all year and last week he gets 1 possession and assisted the opposition scoring 4 goals.

McQualter's forward pressure and goal kicking is also non existent again ordinary all year.

They must have some very damning evidence to keep getting selected?

[kosifantutti23]

You have to wonder what DAWSON has to do to get dropped ? Poor all year and last week he gets 1 possession and assisted the opposition scoring 4 goals.

Why do people make stuff up to suit their argument? What 4 goals did Zac 'assist' the opposition with? Are you plucking a number out of the air or do you remember the goals. I saw one where Lynch was his direct opponent and one where he chased a loose man, not his opponent, into the goal square but couldn't stop him marking it.

[groupie1]

I don't understand why people don't like this move. Eddy will give us some solid contested work around the ground to help Lenny - we can't expect him to do it all every week. And while it's exciting to see Nick Heyne get the pill, it hasn't happened that much over the last 2 weeks.

The whole 'can't let Hayes do all the contested ball work on his own' thing is becoming a bit like the 'release Goddard forward' line in that it is a complete cliche and a notion regurgitated by an ill-informed media to fill in space. NDS, Montagna, Jones, Goddard and Gram are all good contested ball winners, so Lenny Hayes does not 'do it all' every week.

Perhaps we can ease up a bit on these vague generalisations and just watch the football and form our own opinions?

[groupie1]

Heyne got his chance because Lynch has an injured hand.
Unfortunately he was not up to Saints Footy standard.

But then Eddy is lucky he comes in, because there is no one of Saints Footy standard available on the list left to bring into the team.

Except for maybe Reiwoldt and Gram

[bigcarl]

NDS, Montagna, Jones, Goddard and Gram are all good contested ball winners, so Lenny Hayes does not 'do it all' every week.

good point. there are lots of good midfielders, but not many good key position forwards. perhaps we can afford to "release goddard forward".

[groupie1]

NDS, Montagna, Jones, Goddard and Gram are all good contested ball winners, so Lenny Hayes does not 'do it all' every week.

good point. there are lots of good midfielders, but not many good key position forwards. perhaps we can afford to "release goddard forward".

touche, dude