its going to come out sooner or later!

[stinger]

be careful what you post here...the scummie press are quoting you....


http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... -wco7.html


Many posts - which we choose not to repeat on theage.com.au - abused the girl involved. The mild way of paraphrasing such opinions is Frumpy's post on BigFooty.com: "... if the girl says she is 18, then it's her own fault."

Others posted that they would not want their daughters at footy clinics involving St Kilda players.

And amidst all the indignation, judgment and nastiness, the occasionally measured sentiment stood out.

"Gee there are a bunch of misogynists on this site. The bloody onus is on the adult not the child. That is why we have laws to protect children.

"Children make heaps of mistakes - adults should not take advantage of them," wrote good4footy.

On BigFooty, glam77 speculated about paternity tests not being available until after a baby is born.

"Does the Father/Son rule count if they don't know who the father is?" Sloth asked.

Jetta2Goodes used the story to push safe sex practices: "Don't be a fool! Wrap your tool!"

St Michele, on the Saintsational St Kilda fan forum, addressed accusations about the sexuality of young women:

"How dare you generalise about young women. society and the media sexualise them at such a young age why would you be suprised and then when we see the results people blame the young women."

Many posters were convinced that their information was better than anything being released through 'official' sources.

"They make it sound like group sex in the schoolyard, when the actual incident was two seperate relationships some time after the footy clinic. Apparently she is now "friends" with a player from another club", so wrote SaintsSeptember.

Quixote had a barrow to push: "This whole thing reeks of nanny state parking inspector journalism at it's most pungent."

Amongst the discussion of predatory girls and the age of consent, a few Saints fans remained focused on the impact of such a scandal on the team's fortunes.

"why does this stuff happen to us?" despaired SaintWodonga.

"yep....just what we friggin need...." wrote Teflon.

"At least the R word hasn't been mentioned!" said Dr Spaceman.

"Regarding the two players allegedly involved .... One we can arguably do without ...the other we can arguably not do without ..." AnythingsPossibleSaints analysed."

[saintsRrising]

I just hope everyone involved has good people around them to give them the kind of support that will be needed, and I mean everyone involved.

Exactly. We know the 2 guys will get plenty of support but who knows about the girl. She doesnt even live with her family apparently.

That's the most troubling aspect of it all....if what is being reported is true, it sounds like she turned to the school principal because perhaps that was the only option she felt she had

Maybe she should have pursued other options earlier

Maybe they should have put a condom on. Afterall they are older and get plenty of education throught the AFL but I suppose she doesnt play for us so it is all her fault.

Maybe they did and someone else did not?

[joffaboy]

Maybe its Joe the Camerman's kid.

[plugger66]

I just hope everyone involved has good people around them to give them the kind of support that will be needed, and I mean everyone involved.

Exactly. We know the 2 guys will get plenty of support but who knows about the girl. She doesnt even live with her family apparently.

That's the most troubling aspect of it all....if what is being reported is true, it sounds like she turned to the school principal because perhaps that was the only option she felt she had

Maybe she should have pursued other options earlier

Maybe they should have put a condom on. Afterall they are older and get plenty of education throught the AFL but I suppose she doesnt play for us so it is all her fault.

Maybe they did and someone else did not?

Maybe and maybe not. All I am getting at is that it is more than one persons fault.

[bozza1980]

I just hope everyone involved has good people around them to give them the kind of support that will be needed, and I mean everyone involved.

Exactly. We know the 2 guys will get plenty of support but who knows about the girl. She doesnt even live with her family apparently.

That's the most troubling aspect of it all....if what is being reported is true, it sounds like she turned to the school principal because perhaps that was the only option she felt she had

Maybe she should have pursued other options earlier

Maybe they should have put a condom on. Afterall they are older and get plenty of education throught the AFL but I suppose she doesnt play for us so it is all her fault.

Maybe they did and someone else did not?

Maybe and maybe not. All I am getting at is that it is more than one persons fault.

True.

No doubt at the end of the day more than one person has made a mistake here.

Unfortunately these people aren't the first to make this mistake and more unfortunately will not be the last.

At the end of the day a football player and a consenting partner conceiving a child isn't exactly news and is the reason why it wasn't reported that way and by extension hasn't been discussed in any kind of reasonable or rational manner.

[claystreet]

I love those taking the moral high ground, what a joke..

[Con Gorozidis]

sooner or later...

well those involved would all be better off if it had come out sooner....

[degruch]

Maybe its Joe the Camerman's kid.

If only he'd learnt to throw.

[stinger]

sooner or later...

well those involved would all be better off if it had come out sooner....

hopped off at redfern so to speak.....

[Con Gorozidis]

sooner or later...

well those involved would all be better off if it had come out sooner....

hopped off at redfern so to speak.....

yep. one stop prior to central station. but try to walk around the block on your way home.

[robsaint]

if you know pm me please

[skeptic]

me2 have been at work all day

[Winmarvellous]

And me. Can't be bothered trawling for clues

[stmac35]

Seven news actually showed footage of the two guys walking into the club this morning, the voice over talking about their joint arrival. Admittedly their faces were 'blurred' - but how hard was it to see who they were, really?

[plugger66]

Seven news actually showed footage of the two guys walking into the club this morning, the voice over talking about their joint arrival. Admittedly their faces were 'blurred' - but how hard was it to see who they were, really?

Actually it was impossible. My daughter knows one of them pretty well and she had no idea.

[Griggsy]

clue, facebook thread.

[Moccha]

it's definately all of Mick Malthouse's fault.

If he wasn't such a frickin liar this never would have happened.

Never trust anyone who has one of those closely cropped moustaches!

I can't believe that nobody has bothered to implicate him yet.

[stairwaytoheaven]

jimbob can ya please pm me as well or anybody else if they like

[Huzzad]

PM if you may. Someone, anyone.

Edit:

Never mind. It's all here, at hardware house:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Hate-It ... 5180750587

Got one of them right.

[santazzi]

both players quite young if anyone wants to know pm me

For a long time I have been struggling to understand the often cruedley uttered saying..."SEX SELLS" .......after noting the number of pages devoted to the AL story and now this one..........I am at peace.......it does sell......!!!

Incidentally I do not care who the two guys are and I do not want to know either..........in the future they should be carefulof their liaisons............

[Milan Faletic]

I might PM myself since I know who they are....

Not Molly and Warney.

[AnythingsPossibleSaints]

Never mind. It's all here, at hardware house:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Hate-It ... 5180750587

That mock movie picture is GOLD. Gold I say.

[Thinline]

I just hope everyone involved has good people around them to give them the kind of support that will be needed, and I mean everyone involved.

Exactly. We know the 2 guys will get plenty of support but who knows about the girl. She doesnt even live with her family apparently.

That's the most troubling aspect of it all....if what is being reported is true, it sounds like she turned to the school principal because perhaps that was the only option she felt she had

Maybe she should have pursued other options earlier

Maybe they should have put a condom on. Afterall they are older and get plenty of education throught the AFL but I suppose she doesnt play for us so it is all her fault.

Maybe they did and someone else did not?

Maybe and maybe not. All I am getting at is that it is more than one persons fault.

True.

No doubt at the end of the day more than one person has made a mistake here.

Unfortunately these people aren't the first to make this mistake and more unfortunately will not be the last.

At the end of the day a football player and a consenting partner conceiving a child isn't exactly news and is the reason why it wasn't reported that way and by extension hasn't been discussed in any kind of reasonable or rational manner.

I agree but to take it a bit further what 'mistake' has been made?

It was a consensual romp. That someone didn't where a raincoat is entirely their business. Who is anyone to judge who did what and why happened? It is no one's business but the people involved. All this moral grandstanding is starting to get completely out of hand. For christ's sake, people root. They always have. They always will. and it will always be their business unless they agreeably make it otherwise.

[SaintSimmo]

jimbob can ya please pm me as well or anybody else if they like

second that!

[Bernard Shakey]

Consecutive numbers, does that help?