Lockett Vs Fox

[plugger66]

"Already facing a rough play charge for a head-lock on St Kilda ruckman Jason Blake, Brown picked up an extra wrestling count for an incident involving the Saints' Brett Voss after the AFL's video review late on Monday. Voss also faces a charge over the incident."

This was even back in 2004 befpre the AFL were wetting themselves over head-high contact.

Under the new rules, Hall is in far more trouble than Brown was back then.

Diffrent rules but i suppose that doesnt matter if it supports your pathically week arguement. Now go away and wet yourself. I remember using those words in grade 5. They were stupid even back then.

[matrix]

anyone else see the irony??

plugger and rodgerfox

title thread??

lol

[plugger66]

anyone else see the irony??

plugger and rodgerfox

title thread??

lol

Very good.

[Milne]

Has anyone mentioned yet that Hall's headlock was

- high contact
- off the ball
- intentional
- high impact (ie. took 4 dudes to pry him loose)

[rodgerfox]

"Already facing a rough play charge for a head-lock on St Kilda ruckman Jason Blake, Brown picked up an extra wrestling count for an incident involving the Saints' Brett Voss after the AFL's video review late on Monday. Voss also faces a charge over the incident."

This was even back in 2004 befpre the AFL were wetting themselves over head-high contact.

Under the new rules, Hall is in far more trouble than Brown was back then.

Diffrent rules but i suppose that doesnt matter if it supports your pathically week arguement. Now go away and wet yourself. I remember using those words in grade 5. They were stupid even back then.

It's worse now.

Rough conduct - off the ball - high force - intentional.


The way the head is supposedly protected these days under the pathetic AFL system he has to get weeks.

It's the most clear cut case I've seen in years.

[plugger66]

Has anyone mentioned yet that Hall's headlock was

- high contact
- off the ball
- intentional
- high impact (ie. took 4 dudes to pry him loose)

I dont think so but he should get 6 weeks then.

[saint vince]

By starting this thread I was hoping to hear some stories about the Lockett Fox headlock not listen to two school yard bullies but heads and behave like two year olds.

This whole thread is why I rarely come back to this site now. I delibrately avoid commenting in any thread that has the slimest possible chance of being controversially as I am sick of this s**t.

Mods can this thread please be deleted I would hate for anyone else actually hoping to talk about football history have to be subjected to two pages of this utter bulls**t.

[ace]

My wife actually worked with Fox at the commonwealth bank at the time. He fainted as he couldnt breath and said to my wife he thought he was going to die.

you have a wife????....... ....poor dear.... ...her...not you....

How is your plastic doll going. Still getting plenty of use. Next time get a female one.

Oh plugger66 didn't your mummy explain to you that plastic dolls are inanimate objects.
They are neither male nor female no matter how they look.
Did mummy tell you about transvestites.
Are you sure you have a real wife.

[plugger66]

My wife actually worked with Fox at the commonwealth bank at the time. He fainted as he couldnt breath and said to my wife he thought he was going to die.

you have a wife????....... ....poor dear.... ...her...not you....

How is your plastic doll going. Still getting plenty of use. Next time get a female one.

Oh plugger66 didn't your mummy explain to you that plastic dolls are inanimate objects.
They are neither male nor female no matter how they look.
Did mummy tell you about transvestites.
Are you sure you have a real wife.

Tell us more. You seem to be an expert on these topics.

[Sainternist]

Todays sleeper hold from Barry Hall that he just would not let go of instantly reminded me of pluggers big hold on Brad Fox of Essendon. I rekon it was at Waverley in the early 90's if I remember.

Can anyone else remember it. I can remember it more on urban legend than what actually happened.

I have heard big Stewie has stated that he thouht he was going to kill him and he tried to intervene.

yeah, i remember it well. it was a beautiful day, round 1, of the 1992 season. it was reported that lockett's headlock was so tight that fox blacked out from it. not longer after, at high school i got into wrestling bout at lunch time on the footy oval against a mate of mine who was built a little bit like plugger. he also got me into a sleeper and i almost blacked out myself. not pleasant.

i had a feeling hall was going to crack sooner or later. should be interesting to see what sort of punishment he receives from this little outburst.

[Spinner]

Suspended for a headlock. I hope not. Dont care who it is.

Why would the rules suddenly change?

It was....

- high contact
- off the ball
- intentional
- high impact (ie. took 4 dudes to pry him loose)


You're not going to suggest the AFL or the MRP change the rules to suit different scenarios?

I agree with this.

[Winmar]

Anyone know what in particular prompted Plugger to get Fox into a headlock like that? I remembering reading about it at the time. Didn't sound like a lot of fun!

[saint vince]

Anyone know what in particular prompted Plugger to get Fox into a headlock like that? I remembering reading about it at the time. Didn't sound like a lot of fun!

Does anyone know why Plugger did half the things he did??????

[fingers]

I don't think he should get done for a headlock but the North player looked quite distressed in the headlock which kind of sits uncomfortably with me. So needs to be looked at.

[saintspremiers]

I don't think he should get done for a headlock but the North player looked quite distressed in the headlock which kind of sits uncomfortably with me. So needs to be looked at.

YES HE SHOULD!

Fair dinkum, Thompson could hardly breathe (reported The Age).

Deserves 4 weeks with Hall's 50% loading and 95 carryover points IMO.

[saint vince]

I don't think he should get done for a headlock but the North player looked quite distressed in the headlock which kind of sits uncomfortably with me. So needs to be looked at.

YES HE SHOULD!

Fair dinkum, Thompson could hardly breathe (reported The Age).

Deserves 4 weeks with Hall's 50% loading and 95 carryover points IMO.

Agree he should go it was pretty dangerous. He could o just grabbed him and thrown him to the ground. All the talk aout thompsn niggling him is not a defence to what he did. The umpire huld have a paid a free kick straight away forhead high contact. That might of stopped everything.

[rodgerfox]

Anyone know what in particular prompted Plugger to get Fox into a headlock like that? I remembering reading about it at the time. Didn't sound like a lot of fun!

Does anyone know why Plugger did half the things he did??????

He was an angry young man.

If I recall correctly, he'd nearly killed Neil Cordy and Nettlebeck the week prior at Moorabbin.

He went deadset feral.

Kicked 10 and produced one of the great back page photos in the Sunday paper of him with the angriest face I've ever seen trying to remove Cordy's head.


The only reason Plugger did these things, was because he was naturally a dude that tried to maim anyone who gave him grief.

Brad Fox was a bit of a wannabe tough guy and tried to get involved in a bit of push and shove.

Fox still says that Plugger was unprovoked and jumped him from behind.

[satchmo]

Tony doesn't like people.

Whenever somebody told a joke, he always seemed to presume that they were taking the piss out of him.

[Winmar]

Yeah Plugger probably wasn't the best bloke around, but I loved him when he played for us. I'm not sure the bloke whose jaw he broke in a pub would have been a fan of him though.

[mordi]

any video of the plugger headlock?

[Saintsfan]

My wife actually worked with Fox at the commonwealth bank at the time. He fainted as he couldnt breath and said to my wife he thought he was going to die.

you have a wife????....... ....poor dear.... ...her...not you....

How is your plastic doll going. Still getting plenty of use. Next time get a female one.

Oh plugger66 didn't your mummy explain to you that plastic dolls are inanimate objects.
They are neither male nor female no matter how they look.
Did mummy tell you about transvestites.
Are you sure you have a real wife.

Really average bogan-like call.

Go back to your checkout please your lunch break is over.

[mordi]

doesn't have the Fox headlock, but some other classic fat-boy memories........enjoy

[Animal Enclosure]

Anyone know what in particular prompted Plugger to get Fox into a headlock like that? I remembering reading about it at the time. Didn't sound like a lot of fun!

I know Foxy through work & sport. I've given him a bit of lip over it a few times as I was behind the goals at the Wellington Rd end that day & Plugger put the sleeper hold on him just in front of us.

He told me the story one night & suffice to say, I don't razz him anymore.

The lead up to the game that week was all about the up & coming WA 'strongman' versus the goliath from Moorabbin. Brad got off to a good start & was running off Plugger quite a bit. Plugger did the old 'get it once more & you're dead'. Brad did, Plugger got hold of him & just about put the lights out permanently.

He seriously thought he was a goner, said goodbye to loved ones & could only hear Stewie Loewe saying "Let go of him Plug, you'll kill him".

At quarter time Sheedy asked him if he was OK to go on, Brad reckons he couldn't see Sheeds due to having a temporarily losing his sight.

He's a pretty jovial bloke Foxy, but when he recalls that day he goes a bit pale and is deadly serious.

And yes... I'm sick of the personal battles that ruin this forum. Try PMing each other & save the rest of us from your self indulgent rubbish.

[bigcarl]

how many did lockett kick that day?

[BigD]

Anyone know what in particular prompted Plugger to get Fox into a headlock like that? I remembering reading about it at the time. Didn't sound like a lot of fun!

I know Foxy through work & sport. I've given him a bit of lip over it a few times as I was behind the goals at the Wellington Rd end that day & Plugger put the sleeper hold on him just in front of us.

He told me the story one night & suffice to say, I don't razz him anymore.

The lead up to the game that week was all about the up & coming WA 'strongman' versus the goliath from Moorabbin. Brad got off to a good start & was running off Plugger quite a bit. Plugger did the old 'get it once more & you're dead'. Brad did, Plugger got hold of him & just about put the lights out permanently.

He seriously thought he was a goner, said goodbye to loved ones & could only hear Stewie Loewe saying "Let go of him Plug, you'll kill him".

At quarter time Sheedy asked him if he was OK to go on, Brad reckons he couldn't see Sheeds due to having a temporarily losing his sight.

He's a pretty jovial bloke Foxy, but when he recalls that day he goes a bit pale and is deadly serious.

I did a bit of work with Brad a few years back and below is the version that he told us over a few late night drinks more than once. It differs a bit from the above but there are a few common elements:


You might remember it was around the time that there was a big furore in the media about (corrected to) breeding substitution with Lockett's greyhounds. In fact it was just before the story hit the papers (end edit).

This was well before flooding and zones so the two of them spent much of the game standing in the Saints goal square together shivering. Brad claimed he was passing the time making occasional conversation. He asked "how's things?" to which he got a grunt. Five minutes later he made a comment about the weather to which he also got another grunt. Five minutes later, he asked him, "how's things with your greyhounds going?" Apparantly he snapped at this and applied the infamous headlock. Brad reckoned he was starting to lose conciousness and could just hear Stewie Lowe screaming "let him go Plugger, you're gonna f***n' kill him".

In hindsight he can only hypothesise that Lockett thought Brad knew something about the greyhound doping story that was about to break or it was weighing heavilly on his mind.

When I knew him, Brad had the distinctive male pattern baldness of the reverse GT stripe down the top of his head (probably all gone by now). His standing joke when asked what happened to his hair was for many years, "it's still in Plugger's armpit!".