Ball having a big game against Blues

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Post: # 917718Post meher baba »

samoht wrote:Neither do I .. how about a little poetic license please.
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Mr Magic wrote: Reasonable precis, other than I believe Ball received 2 Brownlow votes for teh game in Tasmania last year against the Hawks, which would probably make that game at least the equal of last Sunday's.
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Why?????
Why What??????


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Why are you stuck in anger mode?
Time to move on - most are past acceptance.
Here's all the stages - if interested.

These five stages of grief are denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.

and good to see bally running around with renewed enthusiasm (although I'll repress to anger myself if he kicks the winning goal against us in the GF) :shock:


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desertsaint wrote:Why are you stuck in anger mode?
Time to move on - most are past acceptance.
Here's all the stages - if interested.

These five stages of grief are denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.

and good to see bally running around with renewed enthusiasm (although I'll repress to anger myself if he kicks the winning goal against us in the GF) :shock:
Who's in anger mode?


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who's on first base - in eager mode!


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Mr Magic wrote:
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Mr Magic wrote: Reasonable precis, other than I believe Ball received 2 Brownlow votes for teh game in Tasmania last year against the Hawks, which would probably make that game at least the equal of last Sunday's.
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Why?????
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Why would Brownlow votes be an indicator?


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rodgerfox wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
rodgerfox wrote:
Mr Magic wrote: Reasonable precis, other than I believe Ball received 2 Brownlow votes for teh game in Tasmania last year against the Hawks, which would probably make that game at least the equal of last Sunday's.
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Why?????
Why What??????
Why would Brownlow votes be an indicator?
Well, of course they are some sort of an indicator of how players are going rf: even though the Brownlow system is clearly biased towards onballers.

However, I would be very wary of drawing too many conclusions from anybody's performances in that particular game: Ball, Armitage, whoever.

The Hawks showed last Saturday night just what an easy team they are to beat when things don't click for them. I thought they played a fairly similar style of game at Aurora against us (and against the Roos at Aurora a couple of weeks ago).

They have some high quality players when they are in form - Hodge, Mitchell, Sewell, Buddy, Roughhead, etc. - but they have too many passengers and, when some of their stars are missing or out of form, they are absolute garbage.

However, the fact that they won a flag in 2008 with pretty much the same lineup they have now just goes to show that the emphasis some people put on the "bottom 6" of a club's top 22 is misplaced.


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meher baba wrote:
rodgerfox wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
rodgerfox wrote:
Mr Magic wrote: Reasonable precis, other than I believe Ball received 2 Brownlow votes for teh game in Tasmania last year against the Hawks, which would probably make that game at least the equal of last Sunday's.
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Why?????
Why What??????
Why would Brownlow votes be an indicator?
Well, of course they are some sort of an indicator of how players are going rf: even though the Brownlow system is clearly biased towards onballers.
Why?

There is no system to it. 3 people who generally struggle with the overall understanding of the game give votes to who they believe to be the 'best' players on the ground.

They are renowned for 'holding grudges'. They are renowned for not being able to grasp the 'spirit of the game', and they watch off the ball stuff when they're not the officiating umpire.

They don't give votes to defenders, nor do they give votes to taggers.

Forwards even rarely get votes.

The Brownlow is the most overrated thing in football.


People spend all year bagging the umpires, then suddenly take their opinion seriously on Brownlow night.

It's ludicrous.


How often do the coaches votes match the umpires votes?

Rarely. Why? Because the umpires have no idea what it is that each play is being asked to do. Therefore for them to decide who is the best player on the ground is just madness.

Fine for them to do it - but for people to put any form of impedes on it is just crazy.


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Post: # 917920Post rodgerfox »

meher baba wrote: the emphasis some people put on the "bottom 6" of a club's top 22 is misplaced.
This I agree with.

Been saying it for years - it's one of the biggest myths in football.


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Post: # 917926Post SainterK »

I remember it being a pretty handy game, as was the one against Geelong (especially setting up Gardiner for that goal)

I guess stats are no clear indicator either? :wink:

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pg-c ... ?year=2009


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Post: # 918028Post IluvHarvey »

Why is this not in the opposition player section yet????


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