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Post: # 912560Post na exa »

gt was sticking to the 10 year plan.


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Post: # 912564Post barks4eva »

na exa wrote:what was going on , ripped apart the fabric of what was attempting to be achieved.

it wasnt gt versus the rest ,...he already had enough on his plate.

it was happening in St Kilda TIME , using St Kilda RESOURCES , and perpertrating the DISCO DAZE culture we were SET on changing.


producing fine young men / leaders , with the clubs best interests at heart ... in a hypocritical environment ... do as we say , not as we do.

(more talk the talk , instead of WALKING the TALK.)

rockets own 'spiritual advisor' came down on the the side 'against him'.


c'mon , its not that hard.
How does the traffic offence fit into all of this, you know the one we cannot talk about, the one most on here didn't get to hear about?

Then involving junior employee's to take the rap!

Is that part of setting the great example for everyone to follow?

Obviously Thomas according to you was a clean skin, so you seem to leave out the bits that don't suit your agenda!

Thomas was as bigger hypocrite as anyone!

C'mon it's not that hard, .......
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Post: # 912568Post na exa »

i was waiting for pencil dick to turn up.


:lol:


let me go and read what you said.


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Post: # 912570Post rodgerfox »

saintsRrising wrote:
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The board made that call (much to his buddy's displeasure) for reasons you've mentioned above.
That is not what has been reported.
What's been reported is...

" it has emerged Waldron lost the confidence of the board and his administration over Medwell's rapid promotion and generous package."

The Board weren't happy with what was going on - but not for 'value' reasons. For professional reasons. Butterss it seems, wasn't concerned about it.


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Waldron left several weeks later, telling staff he was joining the Melbourne Storm. Butterss, already at odds with his former close friend and then coach Grant Thomas, lost the confidence of key administrators when Waldron - who was also a close friend of Butterss' - was afforded a generous payout from the cash-strapped club.
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Butterss, from my mail and what is suggested above, was responsible for making sure his buddy got a very nice parting gift from our club.


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anything else ?


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na exa wrote:anything else ?
YOU might try and answer the question for starters!


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Post: # 912576Post saintsRrising »

rodgerfox wrote:

Have a read of Na Exa's post above. It explains why GT had issues with it. Also explains why GT had issues with the pres' 'extra curricular' activities too.

It was absolutely directly related to the footy club's best interests.
I have no need too.

Despite what you are claiming Butterrs showed Waldon the door.

GT then later commenced an onging fued with the President over as you term it RB's extra-curricular activities which in no way consumed St Kilda Resources.

GT wrongly allowed it to affect his duties an employee of the Club.

But GT and fueds were the norm.

It is much easier exercise to draw up a list of who he could work with, than who he could.

His inabilty to put work first hampered the saints in many areas.
Just look at for example the disaster that the Scoprions became = lack of proper development od St Kilda players.


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Post: # 912577Post plugger66 »

saintsRrising wrote:
rodgerfox wrote:

Have a read of Na Exa's post above. It explains why GT had issues with it. Also explains why GT had issues with the pres' 'extra curricular' activities too.

It was absolutely directly related to the footy club's best interests.
I have no need too.

Despite what you are claiming Butterrs showed Waldon the door.

GT then later commenced an onging fued with the President over as you term it RB's extra-curricular activities which in no way consumed St Kilda Resources.

GT wrongly allowed it to affect his duties an employee of the Club.

But GT and fueds were the norm.

It is much easier exercise to draw up a list of who he could work with, than who he could.

His inabilty to put work first hampered the saints in many areas.
Just look at for example the disaster that the Scoprions became = lack of proper development od St Kilda players.
You seem to know a lot about these issues. Are you an employee of the club?


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Post: # 912579Post na exa »

sounds like another one of your made up stories to me.






i learnt a long time ago , like a number of others,

... don't be casting pearls in front of swine.


thanx for the cheap lesson.
xx
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Post: # 912580Post saintsRrising »

rodgerfox wrote:

Butterss, from my mail and what is suggested above, was responsible for making sure his buddy got a very nice parting gift from our club.
Your mail?

What a fraud.

You only raise this now because of what Caroline Wilson wrote yesterday.
If you actually had "mail" on this why did you not raise it years ago?


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Post: # 912587Post barks4eva »

na exa wrote:sounds like another one of your made up stories to me.





You're a LIAR and a hypocrite!

You go painting Thomas as Mother Theresa when his own moral compass was in need of some serious adjustment!


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Post: # 912593Post saintsRrising »

plugger66 wrote:
You seem to know a lot about these issues. Are you an employee of the club?
No.

But I have spoken with various ex-employees and volunteers of various eras.

The Waldron "exit" was pretty common knowledge at the time.

However despite what Rodger wants to imply....actual "dismissal" would have been difficult if not impossible.

I mean whether someone should be promoted or not is going get back to subjective "opinion".

So as in many organsitions when such inapropraite behavior is believed to have occurred a "chat" is had with the "employeee" and a goldern handshake is often given for them to go.

Such "resignations' are not that unsual.


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Post: # 912596Post na exa »

sorry !


please 'paste' my lie or lies.



and then when you can't , come back and apologise.


you do know how to cut and paste yea ?


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Post: # 912598Post maverick »

rodgerfox wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:
rodgerfox wrote:
The board made that call (much to his buddy's displeasure) for reasons you've mentioned above.
That is not what has been reported.
What's been reported is...

" it has emerged Waldron lost the confidence of the board and his administration over Medwell's rapid promotion and generous package."

The Board weren't happy with what was going on - but not for 'value' reasons. For professional reasons. Butterss it seems, wasn't concerned about it.


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Waldron left several weeks later, telling staff he was joining the Melbourne Storm. Butterss, already at odds with his former close friend and then coach Grant Thomas, lost the confidence of key administrators when Waldron - who was also a close friend of Butterss' - was afforded a generous payout from the cash-strapped club.
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Butterss, from my mail and what is suggested above, was responsible for making sure his buddy got a very nice parting gift from our club.
So GT was upset because Waldron got undeserved money from OUR club, well I'll be,


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Post: # 912607Post barks4eva »

na exa wrote:sorry !


please 'paste' my lie or lies.



and then when you can't , come back and apologise.


you do know how to cut and paste yea ?
You wrote "sounds like another one of your made up stories to me"

YOU know that is not true!

YOU know what happened!

Apologize to yourself for being so gullible!


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Post: # 912610Post rodgerfox »

maverick wrote:
So GT was upset because Waldron got undeserved money from OUR club, well I'll be,
Was he?


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Post: # 912615Post saintsRrising »

rodgerfox wrote:
The Board weren't happy with what was going on - but not for 'value' reasons. For professional reasons. Butterss it seems, wasn't concerned about it.

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It seems does it RF?

I suggest that Butterss was very concerned by it. What I have read and heard does not support your claim in anyway shape or form.
The Board and RB were concerned with the "professional reasons'.


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Post: # 912617Post rodgerfox »

saintsRrising wrote:
However despite what Rodger wants to imply....actual "dismissal" would have been difficult if not impossible.
???

What am I implying?


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Post: # 912625Post na exa »

your not making any sense andrew.

calm down bro.


please put 'your' exact accusation , on the table.


what is it exactly that your in a tanty over ?


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rodgerfox wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:
However despite what Rodger wants to imply....actual "dismissal" would have been difficult if not impossible.
???

What am I implying?
Can't you follow your own posts?

Or are you waiting for the next Caroline Wilson article for more "mail"?


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Post: # 912634Post rodgerfox »

saintsRrising wrote:
rodgerfox wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:
However despite what Rodger wants to imply....actual "dismissal" would have been difficult if not impossible.
???

What am I implying?
Can't you follow your own posts?

Or are you waiting for the next Caroline Wilson article for more "mail"?
???

I've been writing the same things for years on this topic.

I'm not implying anything. I'm stating what I was told by a Board member at the time.


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rodgerfox wrote:
Butterss, from my mail and what is suggested above, was responsible for making sure his buddy got a very nice parting gift from our club.
Nice slur Rodge.

Now you bang on here about all your Senior Management experience.

So how does one go about exiting out an employee these days with whom the employer is unhappy about, but where there is not a cut and dried trail of clear performance issues with appropriated documented warnings etc?

In particular what does the employer who has the situation where it knows that something inappropriate has occuured, but does not have it "cut and dried " enough to satisfy a court of law?

What does a Board or Mangement Team do in such situations when even if they have a very good case that they know that:
* The court may not see it that way
* That bad publicity may occur and then be fueled?

I know what my business experience tells me what happens.
What does yours?


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Post: # 912645Post barks4eva »

na exa wrote:your not making any sense andrew.

calm down bro.


please put 'your' exact accusation , on the table.


what is it exactly that your in a tanty over ?
I'm not the one in a tanty, complaining about mods, spamming the site with nonsense unrelated to football and generally living here it would seem 24/7, consciously or otherwise!

The site has almost become you, it's very sad and embarrassing!

but hey viva le revolution

fact is in an earlier post in this thread you painted Thomas as Che Guevara and Mother Theresa all rolled into one!

fact is Thomas's very own moral compass was in great need of adjustment, you know glass houses, stones and all of that,

Just noted you left out the pointy bits that didn't suit your Church Thomas agenda, that's all!


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Post: # 912657Post saintsRrising »

rodgerfox wrote:
I've been writing the same things for years on this topic.

I'm not implying anything. I'm stating what I was told by a Board member at the time.
I would not mind betting that Waldon's Termination Agreement would have had a non-discolure clause.

You are stating that a Board Member was happy to discuss this with you despite this? Is this correct? More so that said Board Member was happy to do this when the ink would have still been wet? If so one would have to question the ethics of said "Board Member" and in turn their credibility.

As for the same things. i think that post Caro that you have added some extra "same things".
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Post: # 912659Post barks4eva »

na exa wrote:gt was sticking to the 10 year plan.
Yeah and he was going to step aside if he thought there was someone else who could do a better job!

What else did you buy?


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