Dawson A Major Issue

azza12 · Post: # 912112Post **azza12** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:07am

Dawson in my opinion over the last couple of years has simply been overrated and has looked much better than his performances suggest due to the Saints dominance and there dominance as a unit defensively, with their specific zones in place.

My critisicism of Dawson just doesnt come from tonight, as many players didnt have their best night. However my opinion comes from overtime and the way the saints will perform this year.

Clearly without our superstar Nick Riewoldt and different teams being able to pentrate our zones slightly better than last year, clearly the saints won't be as domiant as last year, which can be understandble.

Due to this though, passengers won't be able to be carried especially in key positions. Dawson is indecisive, has poor decision making under pressure and makes clincal errors when under pressure, his skills under pressure can also be questioned and over recent times he seems lethargic, putting extra pressure on the likes of fisher and gilbert to hold our defence together. Dawson has no physical stature or prescence about him, making it very difficult for him to compete. Teams slowly will be able to expose dawson one on one and will be looking to take him to the sqaure consistently.

An issue is that their are limited options in replacing dawson in the reserves, which maybe a further reason dawson holds his spot. However, has it is known all good sides have very good defences and specifically full backs, for example recent premiership sides in geelong and brisbane had scarlett and michael. We may have a very good defence which I believe we do, however, I see it has impossible to build a defence around dawson and has our season further develops I believe more pressure will mount on his position on the side and I believe Gwilt needs to be utilised more in Dawson's positions as he has shown some promising signs this year. I personally cant understand how he does not cop critisicism from media outlets, especially againist performances like collingwood their year, were all 4 of collingwood goals led from dawson being out bodied by an out of form cloke, or free kicks that he gave away from didak, it eludes me how dawson hasnt been put under pressure from the media.

SaintWodonga · Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:08am

Didn't think Dawson was our worst tonight.. (I am not a fan of him either)

undecided · Post: # 912119Post **undecided** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:08am

I thought he was ok tonight.

Sainternist · Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:09am

yeah, sack him and get jamie shannahan back from retirement.

maverick · Post: # 912132Post **maverick** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:10am

Me too, thought he was quite solid.

SaintWal · Post: # 912135Post **SaintWal** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:11am

Zac attacked the contest. Thought he played an okay game

wraiyth · Post: # 912137Post **wraiyth** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:11am

Did Dawson lose weight over the pre-season? He doesnt look as bulky as he did last season.

Gabba · Post: # 912153Post **Gabba** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:15am

wraiyth wrote:Did Dawson lose weight over the pre-season? He doesnt look as bulky as he did last season.

Yes he was ill...

He won in the air but after that wasn't amazing... he was FAR from our worst... the zoning and flooding is important in minimising one on one contests where we can be exposed.

St. Luke · Post: # 912171Post **St. Luke** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:19am

For the sake of the record I'd like to say Dawson scares the hell out of me when he gets the ball. Same with Raph Clarke. However you can see they both have something about them that could go somewhere very promising...it's just when and where it'll happen. I know I'm still waiting for those footy smarts to kick in, and you do see bursts of brilliance from both players from time to time. Just not consistently.

Saintsfan · Post: # 912238Post **Saintsfan** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:39am

He has been a problem since the break of last year. He is constantly covered by Fisher, Goddard, Blake, Gram and Bilbert

SaintWal · Post: # 912243Post **SaintWal** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:40am

Saintsfan wrote:He has been a problem since the break of last year. He is constantly covered by Fisher, Goddard, Blake, Gram and Bilbert

that is Saints Footy. If Zac is caught one out the side has failed up the field

degruch · Post: # 912252Post **degruch** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:44am

Re-match on Hall next week, ABSOLUTELY leave him at FB! The last time he had a point to prove he smashed Rocca to pieces.

Saintsfan · Post: # 912253Post **Saintsfan** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:44am

SaintWal wrote:
Saintsfan wrote:He has been a problem since the break of last year. He is constantly covered by Fisher, Goddard, Blake, Gram and Bilbert
that is Saints Footy. If Zac is caught one out the side has failed up the field

So it's Saints Footy to carry a player through match after match? Therefore Saints Footy = 17 on 18

clarky449 · Post: # 912258Post **clarky449** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:47am

Im getting sick of the word 'saints footy', why use it in every context

Saintsfan · Post: # 912260Post **Saintsfan** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:48am

clarky449 wrote:Im getting sick of the word 'saints footy', why use it in every context

Thank you.

Enrico_Misso · Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:48am

degruch wrote:Re-match on Hall next week, ABSOLUTELY leave him at FB! The last time he had a point to prove he smashed Rocca to pieces.

I think the Prizefighter proved pre-season that he has Zac totally covered.
Would be insane to play Dawson on him.

Saintsfan · Post: # 912264Post **Saintsfan** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:49am

Enrico_Misso wrote:
degruch wrote:Re-match on Hall next week, ABSOLUTELY leave him at FB! The last time he had a point to prove he smashed Rocca to pieces.

I think the Prizefighter proved pre-season that he has Zac totally covered.
Would be insane to play Dawson on him.

Blake to Hall

Dawson to Centre-half Sandy

clarky449 · Post: # 912266Post **clarky449** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:50am

Saintsfan wrote:
clarky449 wrote:Im getting sick of the word 'saints footy', why use it in every context
Thank you.

I wasnt directing that personally to you, just every where on bigfooty and on the net there is the word 'saints footy'

Saintsfan · Post: # 912268Post **Saintsfan** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:51am

clarky449 wrote:
Saintsfan wrote:
clarky449 wrote:Im getting sick of the word 'saints footy', why use it in every context
Thank you.
I wasnt directing that personally to you, just every where on bigfooty and on the net there is the word 'saints footy'

I agree though. It is an over-used crap term that has not won anything yet

degruch · Post: # 912270Post **degruch** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:52am

Enrico_Misso wrote:
degruch wrote:Re-match on Hall next week, ABSOLUTELY leave him at FB! The last time he had a point to prove he smashed Rocca to pieces.

I think the Prizefighter proved pre-season that he has Zac totally covered.
Would be insane to play Dawson on him.

No, you're looking at the scoreline, not the game. Zac had him for 3 quarters, to the point where Barry almost 'thought' about booking himself another 6 week holiday. Zac was underdone, Barry was flying, it was a practice match regardless. Zac for FB.

SaintWal · Post: # 912272Post **SaintWal** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:52am

Saintsfan wrote:
SaintWal wrote:
Saintsfan wrote:He has been a problem since the break of last year. He is constantly covered by Fisher, Goddard, Blake, Gram and Bilbert
that is Saints Footy. If Zac is caught one out the side has failed up the field
So it's Saints Footy to carry a player through match after match? Therefore Saints Footy = 17 on 18

Was Zac our worst tonight?

Saintsfan · Post: # 912284Post **Saintsfan** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:56am

SaintWal wrote:
Saintsfan wrote:
SaintWal wrote:
Saintsfan wrote:He has been a problem since the break of last year. He is constantly covered by Fisher, Goddard, Blake, Gram and Bilbert
that is Saints Footy. If Zac is caught one out the side has failed up the field
So it's Saints Footy to carry a player through match after match? Therefore Saints Footy = 17 on 18
Was Zac our worst tonight?

One of our worst. Raph was our worst.

Zac to Raph in transition was almost botch to botch at one stage.

Zac has played poorly for a while now however. The other players have many credits in the game to go if Zac's constant selection is anything to go by.

SaintWal · Post: # 912289Post **SaintWal** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 12:59am

Saintsfan wrote:
SaintWal wrote:
Saintsfan wrote:
SaintWal wrote:
Saintsfan wrote:He has been a problem since the break of last year. He is constantly covered by Fisher, Goddard, Blake, Gram and Bilbert
that is Saints Footy. If Zac is caught one out the side has failed up the field
So it's Saints Footy to carry a player through match after match? Therefore Saints Footy = 17 on 18
Was Zac our worst tonight?
One of our worst. Raph was our worst.

Zac to Raph in transition was almost botch to botch at one stage.

Zac has played poorly for a while now however. The other players have many credits in the game to go if Zac's constant selection is anything to go by.

know where you are coming from!! Zac plays well when the side is playing well, so does raph. I still don't think that Zac was all that bad tonight. We just did not do what we normally do and maybe we have not paid enough creedence to Port.

overitalready · Sun 25 Apr 2010 1:24am

not sure what the defensive coach sees in Dawson, I am no expert so I trust professional coaches to make the right call. But bloody hell, I worry when the ball goes near Zac. Look, at one stage...Lyon dropped Nick Dal for not being intense enough and not following team rules, wonder when Zac has his turn ?

SaintSimmo · Post: # 912355Post **SaintSimmo** » Sun 25 Apr 2010 1:27am

I dont like being negative towards our players but Zac Dawson is not a FB, he is weak.

I dont think we can win the flag with Zac playing FB he gets beaten in every contest.

Dont know who can play FB but we need to find someone else.

He will get killed by Barry Next Week.