Umpiring?

lefty · Post: # 903154Post **lefty** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 1:15am

Anyone else think it was clearly one sided?

I thought it was pretty crap to be honest.

Holding the ball x2 on Montagna?
Milne was called a trip instead of kicking in danger?
Zac's free's against him?
Milne got hit on top of the head by Harry O Brian, 3rd quarter, play on?
There was one huge throw in the middle, can't remember who.

There was a crapload of them, I recorded the game, so should be able to highlight all of them afterwards.

Oh and surely that Leigh Brown gets reported for the hit on Roo, 50m+ away from the Ball. Steven King got one last year if I recall.

fugazi · Post: # 903161Post **fugazi** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 1:16am

I don;t normally winge about the umpiring, but I agree on this occasion...we were screwed

Solar · Post: # 903164Post **Solar** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 1:17am

it was a joke and was almost funny at one stage.

btw didn't they highlight the "standing by the man on the mark and taking them out" all week yet let this happen all night (except for one)

Stillwaiting · Sat 10 Apr 2010 1:18am

Very poor, Milne had his head ripped at one point and no free

degruch · Post: # 903172Post **degruch** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 1:19am

Pretty terrible, and the free kick count must be hideously lop-sided (I didn't catch the whole game, counted about 6 to us). None of it amounted to much...most cost us scoring opportunities, but few would have added to their score.

lefty · Post: # 903174Post **lefty** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 1:19am

Yea, I thought you weren't allowed to Sheppard the man on the mark?
What happened there?

Also, did anyone see what happened to Armo, around the same time as Roo went down (just shortly after)? Someone clean him up or something?

Dr Spaceman · Sat 10 Apr 2010 1:19am

Don't want to get into the whole umpiring thing but I did get incensed that Harry O'Brien, as good as he was, was basically able to do what he liked against Milne (including launching himself at Milne's arm and getting paid for a trip

)

Quite often got into Milne's back without penalty.

Mood made worse when Blake got pulled up in the last quarter for what Harry had been doing all night. Ah well....

Dal_Santos_Gal · Sat 10 Apr 2010 1:20am

It was shocking, When Fisher went down in the 3rd qrt which was around the 17 minute mark (correct me if I am wrong) as i was listening to it on the radio so I am not sure.

The free kick count for JUST that qrt was Collingwood 11 - St Kilda 3
Now that's a free kick every what 92 odd seconds (if it was 17 minutes in)

Umpiring was shocking, but we won and that's all that counts, but Collingwood do get away with murder, its the only reason why they got the points last week again Melbourne.

Seaford_Saint · Sat 10 Apr 2010 1:20am

I always argue with my wife & parents... they always crap on about the umpiring being against us..... I never agree with them.... nearly always things even themselves out and very rarely do umpires directly affect the result of the game.

But tonight.... I agreed.... Qtrs 2 & 3 were deplorable...... completely screwed over in every respect..... if it wasn't for our tenacity, it could have been the final straw (on top of the injuries) for us to roll over and die tonight.

Milton66 · Post: # 903178Post **Milton66** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 1:20am

A lot of high tackles went unrewarded for us. And a few dodgy holding the balls where the ump was blind sided.

At least they can't whinge about it, like the Doggies.

Solar · Post: # 903179Post **Solar** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 1:20am

unfortunately tonight showed that schneider is still a marked man in the umps eyes, wont get a free unless he has no head. Shame

degruch · Post: # 903186Post **degruch** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 1:22am

Solar wrote:unfortunately tonight showed that schneider is still a marked man in the umps eyes, wont get a free unless he has no head. Shame

Dawson's not going anywhere fast either.

LennyBoy · Post: # 903224Post **LennyBoy** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 1:42am

A very confusing night of umpiring....

2 soft free kicks before the opening bounce

2.5 quarters of Collingwood getting soft frees

No head high contact enforced

Diving rewarded

Ruck holding paid in 3 quarter only

Disgraceful effort.

Teflon · Post: # 903248Post **Teflon** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 1:51am

Watching replay and this is a joke we were crucified.

Milnes tackle qtr 1 on Obrien - he swung him round a full rotation?????WTF?

Hayes head down crunched - play on?????

Very ordinary effort by umpires tonight.

SaintDebi · Post: # 903256Post **SaintDebi** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 1:53am

Umpiring was really poor tonight. Glad we stood up and beat the yellow team as well as the black & white one.

Sainternist · Sat 10 Apr 2010 1:55am

but was it much different to last week? the umpires just seem to be pretty indecisive at times. they are blowing the whilstle at just about any opportunity they get. anyone remember that passage of play last week when the ball went out of bounds on the wing and the umpire thought there was a free kick and then changed his mind, so he decided to bounce it?

laughable stuff.

unfortunately, three rounds in, the standard of umpiring looks to have even diminished from last year. they just need to be instructed to leave these tiggy-touch-wood decisions alone and let the bloody game flow.

maz1685 · Post: # 903267Post **maz1685** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 1:58am

I agree umpiring was crap in first half, Saints couldn't catch a break, it didn't appear as one sided in the second half though, but re: Zac Dawson, I thought the frees against him were warranted, he was very frustrating to watch, he'd improved by the end though.

Saints43 · Post: # 903275Post **Saints43** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 2:00am

I don't usually complain about umpiring - I think they do a terrific job generally. If you watch matches as a neutral then they do a good job.

But, there was little reward for being first to the footy tonight.

Beekay · Post: # 903298Post **Beekay** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 2:12am

Milne should have got 3 free kicks that he didn't.

One where the ump said he ducked his head , but he was already low, and got hit front on.

Another he was tackled around his neck in the 50.

And another when his hands were kicked yet somehow he got a free kick against.

I know it might sound a bit one eyed, but I think there is a little bit of a lack of respect for Milney from the umpires from time to time.

Beej · Post: # 903307Post **Beej** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 2:20am

CLEARLY one-sided.

I don't remember a game as one-sided as that.

Some of those holding the ball decisions were incredibly harsh. It's at the stage now where, in a 50/50 contest, with the ball at ground level, it's better NOT to try win the footy.

True Blue Sainter · Sat 10 Apr 2010 2:25am

Everybody makes mistakes - and the umpires are entitled to a couple per game. As mentioned, over the course of the four quarters, they usually tend to cancel each other out, and not have an impact on the final score all too much.

But this was an absolutely deplorable effort. Collingwood got a number of rubbish frees (several of them inside F50), and the amount of frees missed to Saints players (many of which have already been pointed out) is a disgrace. Sharpen up, Gieschen, Humphrey-Smith & Co.

The bias tonight was disgraceful.

*Cue plugger66 saying they were terrific*

Beej · Post: # 903318Post **Beej** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 2:26am

True Blue Sainter wrote:Everybody makes mistakes - and the umpires are entitled to a couple per game. As mentioned, over the course of the four quarters, they usually tend to cancel each other out, and not have an impact on the final score all too much.

But this was an absolutely deplorable effort. Collingwood got a number of rubbish frees (several of them inside F50), and the amount of frees missed to Saints players (many of which have already been pointed out) is a disgrace. Sharpen up, Gieschen, Humphrey-Smith & Co.

The bias tonight was disgraceful.

*Cue plugger66 saying they were terrific*

I would be surprised if he didn't agree with this thread.

Really surprised.

plugger66 · Post: # 903320Post **plugger66** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 2:27am

True Blue Sainter wrote:Everybody makes mistakes - and the umpires are entitled to a couple per game. As mentioned, over the course of the four quarters, they usually tend to cancel each other out, and not have an impact on the final score all too much.

But this was an absolutely deplorable effort. Collingwood got a number of rubbish frees (several of them inside F50), and the amount of frees missed to Saints players (many of which have already been pointed out) is a disgrace. Sharpen up, Gieschen, Humphrey-Smith & Co.

The bias tonight was disgraceful.

*Cue plugger66 saying they were terrific*

Ordinary tonight. We won i dont care and even if i did not sure anyone is listening.

Moccha · Post: # 903322Post **Moccha** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 2:27am

Dal_Santos_Gal wrote:It was shocking, When Fisher went down in the 3rd qrt which was around the 17 minute mark (correct me if I am wrong) as i was listening to it on the radio so I am not sure.

The free kick count for JUST that qrt was Collingwood 11 - St Kilda 3
Now that's a free kick every what 92 odd seconds (if it was 17 minutes in)

Umpiring was shocking, but we won and that's all that counts, but Collingwood do get away with murder, its the only reason why they got the points last week again Melbourne.

It was Vozzo continually paying the frees to Collingwood and ignoring any to the Saints. It was blantanly obvious.

SainterK · Post: # 903324Post **SainterK** » Sat 10 Apr 2010 2:29am

Moccha wrote:
Dal_Santos_Gal wrote:It was shocking, When Fisher went down in the 3rd qrt which was around the 17 minute mark (correct me if I am wrong) as i was listening to it on the radio so I am not sure.

The free kick count for JUST that qrt was Collingwood 11 - St Kilda 3
Now that's a free kick every what 92 odd seconds (if it was 17 minutes in)

Umpiring was shocking, but we won and that's all that counts, but Collingwood do get away with murder, its the only reason why they got the points last week again Melbourne.
It was Vozzo continually paying the frees to Collingwood and ignoring any to the Saints. It was blantanly obvious.

It was twenty something, was that Vozzo?