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Armoo come on, we need you!
He's super important to us this year with Ball leaving. I want him to succeed b/c it's so important to our midfield. Dal, Lenny, BJ, Joey and CJ will all do their jobs, but against the top teams we can't keep carrying him. He simply needs to have more impact. Hardly noticed him.
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Re: Armoo come on, we need you!
once he realises how strong and tough he is and believes that he belongs at this level he will be okay. i hope it is sooner rather than later.
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Unless he plays poorly for a prolonged period, or there's a suitable replacement tearing it up consistently at Sandy, we've just gotta stick with Armo. He will respond to the selectors having faith in him.
He may have been around for a little while now but he's still a young man with only 20 games to his credit.
Let's not judge him too harshly just coz he's taken "whats his name's" spot.
He may have been around for a little while now but he's still a young man with only 20 games to his credit.
Let's not judge him too harshly just coz he's taken "whats his name's" spot.
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Needs to get the ball first and make his opponent do the tackling.SainterK wrote:May of been quiet, but laid 8 tackles and still put effort in...Sydney is always a hard test for midfielders IMO.
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Re: Armoo come on, we need you!
That's it I think. He needs to realise he belongs at this level.bigcarl wrote:once he realises how strong and tough he is and believes that he belongs at this level he will be okay. i hope it is sooner rather than later.
The way he puts his body about I can see him eventually being a take no prisoners type of enforcer in the Max Rooke/Campbell Brown mould.
He's an animal in his attack of the footy, he just needs to realise that what he can do is extremely valuable.
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Would have been good for his learning experience tonight. Wasa tough pressure filled games.
8 tackles showed he was working hard.
8 tackles showed he was working hard.
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I didnt say he played well just nothing wrong with his game. I think he is an average player that for some reason has been elevated to star status. He tackles well and kicks poorly. That is his lot.Moods wrote:Care to elaborate plugger? Why did you think he played well? What did he do that impressed you? What am I missing?plugger66 wrote:Nothing wrong with his game tonight.
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Absolutely. Couple of mistimed tackles, but I thought he was doing more than his share of the work he's meant to be doing.plugger66 wrote:Nothing wrong with his game tonight.
Didn't we just open our account by beating a tough nut side at their home ground? Or did we just get thumped by Melbourne? I'm starting to get a bit confused.
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Ha. Like the bloke he replaced. Only more game time.plugger66 wrote:I didnt say he played well just nothing wrong with his game. I think he is an average player that for some reason has been elevated to star status. He tackles well and kicks poorly. That is his lot.Moods wrote:Care to elaborate plugger? Why did you think he played well? What did he do that impressed you? What am I missing?plugger66 wrote:Nothing wrong with his game tonight.
"The inches we need are everywhere around us. They're in every break in the game. Every minute, every second. On this team we fight for that inch. On this team we tear ourselves and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's gonna make the f***in' difference between winning and losing! Between living and dying!'
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Well said Plugger.plugger66 wrote:Nothing wrong with his game tonight.
It is pretty obvious that if a player does not get the ball there is nothing wrong with his game.
It seems that it is those players who get the ball the most who make the most mistakes and clangers.
But maybe people were not interested in what he did wrong but the fact that he did next to nothing.
He was rarely sighted.
Does anyone know his game time stats.
Was he doing a Luke Ball.
Collecting big bucks while sitting on his ar$e.
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Just had a look. On par with Milne, Schneider and Peake in terms of touches. More efficient than Milne, Montagna, Dal Santo, Hayes and Geary. Eight tackles. Fifty/fifty split on contested and unconstested. Don't know what his game time was...
Pretty much Ball-like. Isn't that the idea?
But one '10 game is all the bloke should be measured on. Spill his blood. SACK HIM NOW.
Pretty much Ball-like. Isn't that the idea?
But one '10 game is all the bloke should be measured on. Spill his blood. SACK HIM NOW.
"The inches we need are everywhere around us. They're in every break in the game. Every minute, every second. On this team we fight for that inch. On this team we tear ourselves and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's gonna make the f***in' difference between winning and losing! Between living and dying!'
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You know what - yes we won, but that does that mean everyone escapes any sort of scrutiny altogether. Or do we wait until they lose and THEN completely sh*t can every player as useless to vent our frustrations? Constructive critiquing of players who haven't met expectations is still ok I reckon.Thinline wrote:Absolutely. Couple of mistimed tackles, but I thought he was doing more than his share of the work he's meant to be doing.plugger66 wrote:Nothing wrong with his game tonight.
Didn't we just open our account by beating a tough nut side at their home ground? Or did we just get thumped by Melbourne? I'm starting to get a bit confused.
Armo has been pumped up all summer by the coaches and many supporters on here who have attended training. I'm not interested in SC statistics. I'll let my own eyes be the judge. Not sure of mini's stats or Geary's, but thought what they did was useful and had more impact. Thought that Peake, Hayes, Milne and anyone else you mentioned had more impact than Armo. I just didn't notice him, and for a midfielder I found that disappointing.
I'm not suggesting by any stretch he should be dropped, but I found his game against the doggies disappointing, and to be honest his entire NAB cup series bar the very first game. I haven't written the lad off, and can even live the clangers. I just want to see him win the ball more.
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Fair enough. But if you want to ask questions, suggest they're better off being asked about McEvoy on last night's effort.Moods wrote:You know what - yes we won, but that does that mean everyone escapes any sort of scrutiny altogether. Or do we wait until they lose and THEN completely sh*t can every player as useless to vent our frustrations? Constructive critiquing of players who haven't met expectations is still ok I reckon.Thinline wrote:Absolutely. Couple of mistimed tackles, but I thought he was doing more than his share of the work he's meant to be doing.plugger66 wrote:Nothing wrong with his game tonight.
Didn't we just open our account by beating a tough nut side at their home ground? Or did we just get thumped by Melbourne? I'm starting to get a bit confused.
Armo has been pumped up all summer by the coaches and many supporters on here who have attended training. I'm not interested in SC statistics. I'll let my own eyes be the judge. Not sure of mini's stats or Geary's, but thought what they did was useful and had more impact. Thought that Peake, Hayes, Milne and anyone else you mentioned had more impact than Armo. I just didn't notice him, and for a midfielder I found that disappointing.
I'm not suggesting by any stretch he should be dropped, but I found his game against the doggies disappointing, and to be honest his entire NAB cup series bar the very first game. I haven't written the lad off, and can even live the clangers. I just want to see him win the ball more.
At least Armo did something.
Harsh but true.
"The inches we need are everywhere around us. They're in every break in the game. Every minute, every second. On this team we fight for that inch. On this team we tear ourselves and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's gonna make the f***in' difference between winning and losing! Between living and dying!'
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Re: Armoo come on, we need you!
It's only Round 1. Give him a chance. He will develop. There is a lot of expectation on him. He will deliver. He is still young. CJ took time and even Dal was dropped once.Moods wrote:He's super important to us this year with Ball leaving. I want him to succeed b/c it's so important to our midfield. Dal, Lenny, BJ, Joey and CJ will all do their jobs, but against the top teams we can't keep carrying him. He simply needs to have more impact. Hardly noticed him.
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That's fair enough too!
"The inches we need are everywhere around us. They're in every break in the game. Every minute, every second. On this team we fight for that inch. On this team we tear ourselves and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's gonna make the f***in' difference between winning and losing! Between living and dying!'
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