WTFplugger66 wrote:What has an end of season list got to do with what they can potentially do this year.
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I love the way CJ plays and as a saints fan I can see real potential for a break out elite season. But a lot of really good mids get left out because there is not enough room for them and guys playing at bottom clubs get looked over because of assumed deficiencies. When you have to fit the best 50 footballers in, taggers are going to be low on the order of priority. Most people would assume a team like hawthorn for example would have Hodge, Mitchell, Rioli, Franklin and possibly roughhead all on the list and could be pissed at not having another 2 or 3 on there. Every team even melbourne would have at least 5 players with real top 50 potential this season someones going to miss out. Cj is a gun but I'm glad he's underrated by the rest of the comp. it should give him something to prove and mean he is left alone by opposition teams.
He doesn't get it and considering the way he has posted previously in response to others people's opinions he never willplugger66 wrote:You just dont get it do you. What has an end of season list got to do with what they can potentially do this year. Do you get it. Lenny was 3 at the end of last season and is now 12 but that is fair enough. CJ was 49 and he may now be 51. Who knows. Why have 2 lists if they are going to be the same. Are you still with me. Do you get it. I can write it more sSt Fidelius wrote:Well thank you "Captain Obvious"......plugger66 wrote:Its not what he did or didnt do. This list is on potential and the other list is on what they achieved at the end of the year.St Fidelius wrote:This is where I disagree with you, but each to their own...evertonfc wrote:I think his pre-season one is also spliced with predictions as much as anything...hence the Kerr rating.I am well aware of just what his two lists are, and to me having Kerr @ 18, in his pre season list is well over the odds IMO, bearing in mind that this will be Kerr's 10 season and his last two seasons he just played 11 games in each.
I'm pretty sure his post-season list was far more flattering to our players.
I'm not surprised, nor offended - it's Mike's view and he watches a fair bit of footy, and usually does a good job.
Picking Jones in his post-season top 50 was amazingly brave decision. Wonder if he crack the pre-season list next year?
I would like to suggest that only losing 2 matches in the home and away season, his post 50 top players is not "far more flattering to our players"
CJ was the AFL's best tagger and still averaged 18.5 possessions a match...
To me for CJ to make Sheman's Top 50 @ 49 was not "a brave decision" IMO...
But again, that's my opinion and you and others have their own...
More so for CJ not to make Sheman's 1st top 50 of this year...
Just what did CJ do from last season to miss out in his 1st top 50 of this year???
So CJ was in the Top 50 last year in Sheman's post 50 top players...
Sheman considered him to be in that position based on his performance during the 2009 season....
Are you with me???
So his basis would or should have been that he was the AFL's top tagger and also averaged 18.5 possessions a match and more often than not silenced his opponents last year...
Again, that's why Sheman listed him @ 49 at season's end...
Are you still with me???
So despite a great season last year and making into his Post Top 50, he does not get a mention at his pre top 50m this year...
Do you understand that??
That was my point, just what did CJ do to get off his list, I would have thought he would have moved up a few places instead of dropping off...
But again, that's my opinion and he and others have theirs.
I was just making an observation from his very last to 50 list.
imply for you. How is your English? Can you read?
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What do you mean???Saintsfan wrote: He doesn't get it and considering the way he has posted previously in response to others people's opinions he never will
I did respond to another poster with this.......
St Fidelius wrote:This is where I disagree with you, but each to their own...evertonfc wrote:I think his pre-season one is also spliced with predictions as much as anything...hence the Kerr rating.I am well aware of just what his two lists are, and to me having Kerr @ 18, in his pre season list is well over the odds IMO, bearing in mind that this will be Kerr's 10 season and his last two seasons he just played 11 games in each.
I'm pretty sure his post-season list was far more flattering to our players.
I'm not surprised, nor offended - it's Mike's view and he watches a fair bit of footy, and usually does a good job.
Picking Jones in his post-season top 50 was amazingly brave decision. Wonder if he crack the pre-season list next year?
I would like to suggest that only losing 2 matches in the home and away season, his post 50 top players is not "far more flattering to our players"
CJ was the AFL's best tagger and still averaged 18.5 possessions a match...
To me for CJ to make Sheman's Top 50 @ 49 was not "a brave decision" IMO...
But again, that's my opinion and you and others have their own...
More so for CJ not to make Sheman's 1st top 50 of this year...
Just what did CJ do from last season to miss out in his 1st top 50 of this year???
Don't wait for the light at the end of the tunnel to appear, run down there and light the bloody thing yourself!
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So the flipside is put Kerr in a midfield that includes Dal, Joey, Hayes, CJ, Armo etc and he'd probably be a pretty good fit. I'd have him in a heartbeat. He's quick, tough and skilful and would be an awesome complement you'd reckon. If he was off the horse tranquilisers that is...St Fidelius wrote:I mentioned this a couple of years ago when some posters on here thought that Kerr would be good trade to the Saints...clarky449 wrote:yeah had a bit of a laugh, i mean Kerr is a very good player but we haven't seen that player consistently for quite some time!St Fidelius wrote:lol
Kerr @ 18 whilst Joey is @ 34
I said that he is basically crap and has hid behind Cousins and Judd and I predicted that he will not cope with a tag....
Bingo... no Cousins and Judd and Kerr struggles and not only struggles he tends to lose it at times...
For Sheman to suggest that Kerr is #18 in the league is a joke IMO...
One does wonder at the end of the season just what position She-man places Kerr???
People seem to put Kerr in the upper draft echelon (Judd, Hodge,Roo etc) . From memory he was a second round draftee. Pretty sure Daniel Harris and Dominic Cassisi had the jump on him...
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Hey Mike, are we still on for dinner on Sunday night? You know the drill. Mr and Mrs Saintsfan come to your place and we play swap the partner for a night of lovin'MikeSheahan wrote:Now I'm really confused, and so is Mrs S.vacuous space wrote:He does one before and one after the season. So, technically, nobody has done anything since the last one he did. The preseason one is supposed to be prediction while the postseason one is looking back.
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