Kosi.......

[Bernard Shakey]

Some people seem to begrudge the fact Kosi hasn't become a superstar. He's been frequently injured and has spent a significant portion of his career playing different positions. It was only really last year he settled as a full-time key forward. He's probably never going to be a superstar like his great mate, but he should be a solid 40-50 goal guy playing deep forward. Injuries permitting, Roo will kick 60+, Milne will kick 40+, Schneider, McQualter and the midfield will chip in a bunch and we'll have a solid attack. People will still complain.

Kosi isn't a Superstar..he's lucky to be in the side...

if he's out of form in the season proper would they drop him or leave him in the side and wait for the penny to drop........ :roll:

Your farken kidding!!

How many guys kicked 50 goals in 09

It doesn't matter how many he kicked in the home and away..he couldn't get near it in the finals...i think that's where he should have shone,not gone missing..........he's carried that form into the NAB CUP...

I don't know who's farken kidding but it ain't me....

why don't you watch the footy before you comment.... :roll:

According to that logic we should probably drop over half the team who didn't perform in the last 2 finals.

Anyways the fact is you can all call Kosi shite and whatever you want, but we have no one better to play in his position and before you guys say Stanley, if you think a 19 year old who is yet to debut in the proper season is going to do better than Kosi then we may as well give up.

Get over the fact that Kosi is no where near the player Riewoldt is and he is just a decent forward who would get a game at every other club bar Brisbane and Hawthorn.

And we could have had Brisbane's full forward a couple of years ago.

[Saintersss]

And we could have had Brisbane's full forward a couple of years ago.

And we could have won the premiership last year... Whats your point?

[Bernard Shakey]

And we could have had Brisbane's full forward a couple of years ago.

And we could have won the premiership last year... Whats your point?

You made the point in your previous post.

[Moods]

Yeah, well, whilst Fev is undoubtedly a better footballer, have we learnt nothing from recruiting knobs?

Did anyone read the mtach review re Brisbane's practice match. Fev was lazy, didn't chase and berated younger players when the ball wasn't delivered to him to his liking. And he's only played two games for em.....

[older saint]

Its February FFS!

I do not want players f;ying at this time of year, remember 2004 flying now ran out of steam round 15 .

I would be more concerned about Dawsons form than anyones as he has not yet proven he can perform and hold a spot for multiple season yet.
Again its FEbruary FFS!

[Maxstar22]

I know there was talk of it a few years back after the Gia collision etc, but is there really something wrong with Kosi’s vision??

On Sat night, he went to take a what I would think was a fairly straight forward mark right in front of us and it looked like the he struggled with the lights. He seemed to not be able to see the ball properly or something .

Also, he did look quite slow and out of breath. Perhaps they are giving him some game time to get his fitness up. You can train the house down, but it doesn’t make up for real game practice.

[Moods]

Yes it's February - but we've got to talk about something..

[Thinline]

Some people seem to begrudge the fact Kosi hasn't become a superstar. He's been frequently injured and has spent a significant portion of his career playing different positions. It was only really last year he settled as a full-time key forward. He's probably never going to be a superstar like his great mate, but he should be a solid 40-50 goal guy playing deep forward. Injuries permitting, Roo will kick 60+, Milne will kick 40+, Schneider, McQualter and the midfield will chip in a bunch and we'll have a solid attack. People will still complain.

Kosi isn't a Superstar..he's lucky to be in the side...

if he's out of form in the season proper would they drop him or leave him in the side and wait for the penny to drop........

Your farken kidding!!

How many guys kicked 50 goals in 09

It doesn't matter how many he kicked in the home and away..he couldn't get near it in the finals...i think that's where he should have shone,not gone missing..........he's carried that form into the NAB CUP...

I don't know who's farken kidding but it ain't me....

why don't you watch the footy before you comment....

Illuminate me. How does a team QUALIFY for finals?

Something to do with those insignificant 22 games that precede?

The GF form of Riewoldt, Kosi, Milne and Schneider individually and collectively on GF day was relatively shite too. On that basis, I think we need a whole new forward structure. Clearly the existing one is farked....

In all seriousness we have a stack of blokes who go to sleep in big games. Not just 23. Hopefully that worm will soon turn.

Tell you what though - snide cynicism aside - the emergence of Stanley as a MOBILE 200cm fwd target may well see Kosi and/or Rhys one out with med defender a lot of the time this year...

[Thinline]

I know there was talk of it a few years back after the Gia collision etc, but is there really something wrong with Kosi’s vision??

On Sat night, he went to take a what I would think was a fairly straight forward mark right in front of us and it looked like the he struggled with the lights. He seemed to not be able to see the ball properly or something .

Also, he did look quite slow and out of breath. Perhaps they are giving him some game time to get his fitness up. You can train the house down, but it doesn’t make up for real game practice.

Kosi wasn't alone. Everyone was fumbly. McQualter dropped a dolly in the middle when the game was tied if I recall. Peake spoilled a dolly on a wing at one point. Ray's hands weren't sure. Even Riewoldt's hands weren't as tacky overhead as usual. The Swans were equally uncertain I thought. I'm nt making excuses for individuals by analysing collectively BTW. It just was what it was.

[saintlee]

I know there was talk of it a few years back after the Gia collision etc, but is there really something wrong with Kosi’s vision??

On Sat night, he went to take a what I would think was a fairly straight forward mark right in front of us and it looked like the he struggled with the lights. He seemed to not be able to see the ball properly or something .

Also, he did look quite slow and out of breath. Perhaps they are giving him some game time to get his fitness up. You can train the house down, but it doesn’t make up for real game practice.

Kosi wasn't alone. Everyone was fumbly. McQualter dropped a dolly in the middle when the game was tied if I recall. Peake spoilled a dolly on a wing at one point. Ray's hands weren't sure. Even Riewoldt's hands weren't as tacky overhead as usual. The Swans were equally uncertain I thought. I'm nt making excuses for individuals by analysing collectively BTW. It just was what it was.

Preseason matches often have a lot of fumbles etc....

I expect it in Feb, don't want to see it in H&A season

[Maxstar22]

I know there was talk of it a few years back after the Gia collision etc, but is there really something wrong with Kosi’s vision??

On Sat night, he went to take a what I would think was a fairly straight forward mark right in front of us and it looked like the he struggled with the lights. He seemed to not be able to see the ball properly or something .

Also, he did look quite slow and out of breath. Perhaps they are giving him some game time to get his fitness up. You can train the house down, but it doesn’t make up for real game practice.

Kosi wasn't alone. Everyone was fumbly. McQualter dropped a dolly in the middle when the game was tied if I recall. Peake spoilled a dolly on a wing at one point. Ray's hands weren't sure. Even Riewoldt's hands weren't as tacky overhead as usual. The Swans were equally uncertain I thought. I'm nt making excuses for individuals by analysing collectively BTW. It just was what it was.

Preseason matches often have a lot of fumbles etc....

I expect it in Feb, don't want to see it in H&A season

True. There were alot of fumbles etc in the game and you always see that in the first few games of the new season (pre season and h&a), but to me it seemed alittle more than just fumbly fingers for Kosi. Maybe this vision thing is an issue under lights??

Maybe I am just reading way too much into it. Or maybe he was still shaken from me stalking him down Wickham Rd on Sat morning

[saintlee]

Also, he did look quite slow and out of breath. Perhaps they are giving him some game time to get his fitness up. You can train the house down, but it doesn’t make up for real game practice.

I watched the game on TV and Ross Lyon said he swapped Kosi and Roo around because Kosi needed the run.....so yes, it seems he is still building up his match fitness

[Eastern]

Kosi has had his shoulder strapped during the nab cup so far. I have not seen him with shoulder strapping before. Also had a fair bit of strapping on his hand on Saturday Night.

Not using these as a defence, but they could be a factor. Also, he always seems to take a while to get going.

Let's re-assess in 3 weeks. Until then, lets chill !!

[Bernard Shakey]

Also, he did look quite slow and out of breath. Perhaps they are giving him some game time to get his fitness up. You can train the house down, but it doesn’t make up for real game practice.

Kosi has never been known to train the house down.

He does lack match fitness and Ross is trying to get some Ks into him.