Actually said the case will be heard if the committee agrees it can go ahead.SainterK wrote:On ten news, it says that Lovett has arrived with Derek and is trying to have his case heard...
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/a ... 5833882691
latest news.... will go ahead at later date.
grievance tribunal granted
by the amount of wigs and coats attending could be getting expensive
latest news.... will go ahead at later date.
grievance tribunal granted
by the amount of wigs and coats attending could be getting expensive
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The link doesn't say it will be heard at a later date.chook23 wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/a ... 5833882691
latest news.... will go ahead at later date.
grievance tribunal granted
by the amount of wigs and coats attending could be getting expensive
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typed this whilst listening to report on radio from G. BondBernard Shakey wrote:The link doesn't say it will be heard at a later date.chook23 wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/a ... 5833882691
latest news.... will go ahead at later date.
grievance tribunal granted
by the amount of wigs and coats attending could be getting expensive
HS article not yet updated.
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Why provide a link to the Hun when you're quoting a radio report?chook23 wrote:typed this whilst listening to report on radio from G. BondBernard Shakey wrote:The link doesn't say it will be heard at a later date.chook23 wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/a ... 5833882691
latest news.... will go ahead at later date.
grievance tribunal granted
by the amount of wigs and coats attending could be getting expensive
HS article not yet updated.
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Sorry mum should have added also radio report.........Bernard Shakey wrote:Why provide a link to the Hun when you're quoting a radio report?chook23 wrote:typed this whilst listening to report on radio from G. BondBernard Shakey wrote:The link doesn't say it will be heard at a later date.chook23 wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/a ... 5833882691
latest news.... will go ahead at later date.
grievance tribunal granted
by the amount of wigs and coats attending could be getting expensive
HS article not yet updated.
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so the grievance tribunal hear the case......where can this lead?
I mean......not re-instatement?
If they deem his sacking unlawful....so what? do they then hand out penalties?....didnt think that was their role?
Does this put an end to court action.....or just the start....I notice Lovetts lawyers preferred to go here than through the courts?
Gonna drag and be messy this one....just hope its not a distraction.
I mean......not re-instatement?
If they deem his sacking unlawful....so what? do they then hand out penalties?....didnt think that was their role?
Does this put an end to court action.....or just the start....I notice Lovetts lawyers preferred to go here than through the courts?
Gonna drag and be messy this one....just hope its not a distraction.
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the fact that lovett's lawyers have decided to go through the grievance tribunal does not mean that they will not go to court. it is likely that they will go to court regardless.
one of the things i hear over and over again at law school is 'explore every option', so make no mistake if lovett's lawyers are doing their jobs properly they will go through every hearing they can for their client.
if you look at it from his perspective it is understandable why he would do it: his afl career is over, meaning that this process is his last chance at generating any substantial amount of money from his enormous talent. he will definitely be exploring every option. this will drag on for a long long time.
as much as the media will try and use this to mess with the players heads, the players are going to have to get good at not letting 'former saint in court' headlines distract them for the next two years...
one of the things i hear over and over again at law school is 'explore every option', so make no mistake if lovett's lawyers are doing their jobs properly they will go through every hearing they can for their client.
if you look at it from his perspective it is understandable why he would do it: his afl career is over, meaning that this process is his last chance at generating any substantial amount of money from his enormous talent. he will definitely be exploring every option. this will drag on for a long long time.
as much as the media will try and use this to mess with the players heads, the players are going to have to get good at not letting 'former saint in court' headlines distract them for the next two years...
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I don't want to be pedantic here but I really hate how the media portray Lovett as a St. Kilda player.
Lovett is a "former St. Kilda recruit" similar to the multitude who have been on our list and never played a game of senior footy. In Lovett's case, never a game of footy at any level.
To me, the media should refer to him as:
"former Essendon player and former St. Kilda recruit - Lovett"
Just my two bobs worth!
Lovett is a "former St. Kilda recruit" similar to the multitude who have been on our list and never played a game of senior footy. In Lovett's case, never a game of footy at any level.
To me, the media should refer to him as:
"former Essendon player and former St. Kilda recruit - Lovett"
Just my two bobs worth!
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ignore himIluvHarvey wrote:Funnily this comment was the first thing i thought of yesterday.stinger wrote:IluvHarvey wrote:Can you guys please start a thread where you can just abuse the living daylights out each other and leave other threads alone.
This is ridiculous.
This is a Football forum! Let's talk about football!
i haven't abused anyone...just picked them up on a very racist statement...got abused for my trouble...as usual.....
, don't read it....and don't give me directions...
....for the record..i find your post abusive as well as bullying.....
he abuses everyone
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but he takes offense when someone calls him up on it
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can anyone explain how they ruled that lovett was still a contracted stkilda player?
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Just when you think the whole debacle couldn't get any more disgusting the lawyers nitpick their way to a conclusion that ensures they can buy a new Merc.
What a complete and utter disgrace.
What a complete and utter disgrace.
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So over hearing our club dragged down for this.
Fact he never played for St.Kilda,yes he did have a contract.
As much as I hate to say this I think the club should negotiate a payout quickly and get rid of this situation,the longer this goes on the more our legal fee's are going to be ,the legal eagles will be the winners,the continuing saga will cost us heaps!
Let's bite the bullet settle this case and move on!
Whether he is innocent guilty broke his contract I am sick of hearing his name associated with our club!
Sometimes in life we take a gamble sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't .
Fact he never played for St.Kilda,yes he did have a contract.
As much as I hate to say this I think the club should negotiate a payout quickly and get rid of this situation,the longer this goes on the more our legal fee's are going to be ,the legal eagles will be the winners,the continuing saga will cost us heaps!
Let's bite the bullet settle this case and move on!
Whether he is innocent guilty broke his contract I am sick of hearing his name associated with our club!
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Where there is a will there is a way..Solar wrote:can anyone explain how they ruled that lovett was still a contracted stkilda player?
OR rather,
When there are $$$ to be had there are lawyers..
I believe that argued that even though no longert a St Kilda player that he is still within the provence of the AFL and hence AFL Grievance Tribunal.
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I hope Levin is working pro bono on this.saint1974 wrote:So over hearing our club dragged down for this.
Fact he never played for St.Kilda,yes he did have a contract.
As much as I hate to say this I think the club should negotiate a payout quickly and get rid of this situation,the longer this goes on the more our legal fee's are going to be ,the legal eagles will be the winners,the continuing saga will cost us heaps!
Let's bite the bullet settle this case and move on!
Whether he is innocent guilty broke his contract I am sick of hearing his name associated with our club!
Sometimes in life we take a gamble sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't .
excellent article on the whole sorry affair by russell holmesby in this weeks inside football........headed"saints painted as sinners over lovett's sacking"....makes some very good points whilst maintaining that the saints owe lovett nothing.....would agree with him 100%....
...asks how the aflpa's endeavors to assist and defend lovett sits withthe other 40 saints players who seemingly are happy to see the back of him.....
no winners here as russell states....not the saints...not the players....not lovett....not the aflpa ...not the afl...and certainly not the real alleged victim.....
suggest pple buy the mag. and read the whole article.........also lots on the saints.....
...asks how the aflpa's endeavors to assist and defend lovett sits withthe other 40 saints players who seemingly are happy to see the back of him.....
no winners here as russell states....not the saints...not the players....not lovett....not the aflpa ...not the afl...and certainly not the real alleged victim.....
suggest pple buy the mag. and read the whole article.........also lots on the saints.....
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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saintsRrising wrote:Where there is a will there is a way..Solar wrote:can anyone explain how they ruled that lovett was still a contracted stkilda player?
OR rather,
When there are $$$ to be had there are lawyers..
I believe that argued that even though no longert a St Kilda player that he is still within the provence of the AFL and hence AFL Grievance Tribunal.
had to be...silly argument by the saints inho....otherwise the grievance tribunal would be toothless...a club would just sack anyone at odds with it before the tribunal could be brought into play.....
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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Principle Stinger.stinger wrote:excellent article on the whole sorry affair by russell holmesby in this weeks inside football........headed"saints painted as sinners over lovett's sacking"....makes some very good points whilst maintaining that the saints owe lovett nothing.....would agree with him 100%....
...asks how the aflpa's endeavors to assist and defend lovett sits withthe other 40 saints players who seemingly are happy to see the back of him.....
no winners here as russell states....not the saints...not the players....not lovett....not the aflpa ...not the afl...and certainly not the real alleged victim.....
Next time a player goes through this the circumstances might not be so cut and dried.
You would know the importance of precedent.
Many players have been shafted by clubs, our players should realise that the AFLPA is in this to ensure the security of all players.
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