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Re: Saints' Worst Nightmare

Post: # 883298Post barks4eva »

GrumpyOne wrote:
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GrumpyOne wrote:Will not be Rooey doing a knee in the pre-season...... It'll be that the charges against Lovett will be dropped.

Will cost us $2M, cause the resignation of the coach and half the board, place the future of a couple of players in doubt, and with the resultant financial burden and morale devastation, drop us to the bottom of the ladder.

The Board have really gambled big time on the decision to sack him. We could have retained him on the list, and allowed him to train and play at Sandy.

Now we have torn up his contract, we have lost the only control we had over what he had to say. We could have used his depression to put him on the long-term injury list and replaced him as a player with a rookie upgrade. Now we are one player short on the list and facing possible financial ruin. I don't want to be in the position of having to chuck a buck to meet Lovetts payout.

The role of Rooey in this debacle needs to be examined.

Complete balls-up by the club.

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Hi B4,

I realise that this issue probably pales into insignificance in your view when compared to GT farting at thunder and Rix as the Next Great Ruck Hope, but we should all realise what is at stake here.

The Board are punting, probably with a huge great knowledge bank at their disposal, but punting all the same.

I sincerely hope they are right..... I've already "Chucked A Buck" to save the Saints,...... don't want to do it again.

Do you expect the Board to be 100% right in their decisions all the time? Or is there a niggling doubt alone in your brain that says maybe they have gone too far with this one?
Your post is imbecilic, moronic and up there with the most ridiculous nonsense I've ever read on here and that is truly saying something!

I'd compare it to mebabble's call of sack Lyon and replace him with Bundy in the middle of 2008, any Thomas flog who has posted, "it is my understanding that Thomas would step aside if he thought there was a better man for the job" and anything posted by RF!


Refer to the thread stared by WhiteWinmar, OP truly reflects my thoughts 100%!

Seriously this is more a case of a small dick in need of string and a brick than anything else, apparently they sell pumps on the internet these days, if the string and brick be not your preferred option!


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Post: # 883299Post The Craw »

plugger66 wrote:Firstly he was sacked because a the rape charge.
No he wasn't. He was sacked because he broke his contract. He was gone regardless, charged or not charged.

What happened on that night and the subsequent events following, in addition to the numerous misdemeanors before that, culminated in his sacking.

Even if he is cleared of charges, it won't change anything....he...broke ...his...contract.

End of storey.

He was not sacked until after charges were laid / not laid as it would have been deemed as prejudicial to the investigation and subsequent hearing if in fact he was charged. Which as we all know now that he has now been charged?

How you can argue that sacking him after the charges have been laid is beyond me.

St Kilda has categorically stated that his termination was in relation to Lovett not meeting contractual obligations.

Why do you think Lovett’s lawyers have gone the bullying angle?

That is the only avenue they have to try and get a monitory settlement.


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The Craw wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Firstly he was sacked because a the rape charge.
No he wasn't. He was sacked because he broke his contract. He was gone regardless, charged or not charged.

What happened on that night and the subsequent events following, in addition to the numerous misdemeanors before that, culminated in his sacking.

Even if he is cleared of charges, it won't change anything....he...broke ...his...contract.

End of storey.

He was not sacked until after charges were laid / not laid as it would have been deemed as prejudicial to the investigation and subsequent hearing if in fact he was charged. Which as we all know now that he has now been charged?

How you can argue that sacking him after the charges have been laid is beyond me.

St Kilda has categorically stated that his termination was in relation to Lovett not meeting contractual obligations.

Why do you think Lovett’s lawyers have gone the bullying angle?

That is the only avenue they have to try and get a monitory settlement.
Correct,

The decision to sack him would have been made on Dec 24th and not announced then and there for the exact reasons you wrote!

tugger is a bit simple at times so cut him some slack!


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Re: Saints' Worst Nightmare

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GrumpyOne wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:

The role of Rooey in this debacle needs to be examined.

.
????????????????

Probably the silliest part of a silly OP.
Really?

Is he the player who refused to take the field if AL was on it?
I don't know was he?

If you can believe the gossip it was the team that did not want to play with Lovett....and in particular the other St Kilda players involved on the night. This was not Roo.

If Lovett was not willing to toe the line and meet requirements...then it is hardly surprising that the team had problems with Lovett.

Your implication that Rooy is somehow a prima donna is quite uncalled for IMO.

And by the way Roo is Captain..which means he is there to represent the team.


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Post: # 883309Post Bernard Shakey »

If you knew who the victim was, you would understand the players reaction.


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Re: Saints' Worst Nightmare

Post: # 883310Post degruch »

saintsRrising wrote:Your implication that Rooy is somehow a prima donna is quite uncalled for IMO.

And by the way Roo is Captain..which means he is there to represent the team.
He is also one of the guys who was sent to do the meet 'n' greet with Lovett before and after his recruitment, and probably asked to swallow his pride in relation to his previous onfield comments towards Lovett...he'd have every right to be pissed off.


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Post: # 883315Post Solar »

most over the top OP EVER!!!


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Post: # 883319Post matrix »

wrong

the saints worst nighemare would be losing lenny roo and dal to season length injuries


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Post: # 883320Post st_Trav_ofWA »

Grumps i think your way off with this one ... the saints sacked Lovett for bringing the clubs name into disrepute ... if he is innocent or guilty of his crime he has still brought the club into disrepute .....

the fact he has been charged is enough to bring the club into disrepute as charges are not laid unless there is enough evidence to mount a serious case against him .....

he may be innocent and may have been set up (not saing this is the case but there is that possibility) but lets be honest here he has put himslef in this possition with his actions , he wasnt at home in bed at thiat time of night . imo if you are a PROFESSIONAL footballer you shouldnt be putting yourself in a situation like he did ..


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Post: # 883325Post GrumpyOne »

barks4eva wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:
barks4eva wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:Will not be Rooey doing a knee in the pre-season...... It'll be that the charges against Lovett will be dropped.

Will cost us $2M, cause the resignation of the coach and half the board, place the future of a couple of players in doubt, and with the resultant financial burden and morale devastation, drop us to the bottom of the ladder.

The Board have really gambled big time on the decision to sack him. We could have retained him on the list, and allowed him to train and play at Sandy.

Now we have torn up his contract, we have lost the only control we had over what he had to say. We could have used his depression to put him on the long-term injury list and replaced him as a player with a rookie upgrade. Now we are one player short on the list and facing possible financial ruin. I don't want to be in the position of having to chuck a buck to meet Lovetts payout.

The role of Rooey in this debacle needs to be examined.

Complete balls-up by the club.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


FAIR DINKUM, what an absolutely clueless, laterally challenged and nonsensical load of absolute garbage!

Gumpy, I suggest you stop experimenting with your pharmaceuticals!


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Hi B4,

I realise that this issue probably pales into insignificance in your view when compared to GT farting at thunder and Rix as the Next Great Ruck Hope, but we should all realise what is at stake here.

The Board are punting, probably with a huge great knowledge bank at their disposal, but punting all the same.

I sincerely hope they are right..... I've already "Chucked A Buck" to save the Saints,...... don't want to do it again.

Do you expect the Board to be 100% right in their decisions all the time? Or is there a niggling doubt alone in your brain that says maybe they have gone too far with this one?
Your post is imbecilic, moronic and up there with the most ridiculous nonsense I've ever read on here and that is truly saying something!

I'd compare it to mebabble's call of sack Lyon and replace him with Bundy in the middle of 2008, any Thomas flog who has posted, "it is my understanding that Thomas would step aside if he thought there was a better man for the job" and anything posted by RF!


Refer to the thread stared by WhiteWinmar, OP truly reflects my thoughts 100%!

Seriously this is more a case of a small dick in need of string and a brick than anything else, apparently they sell pumps on the internet these days, if the string and brick be not your preferred option!
LOL

Perhaps I could borrow your string and brick after you have finished with it.

No need to deliver it, just leave it in the coach's box at the ground.

I'll PM you a map so you can find the coach's box.

I know you have troubles with those. :wink:


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Re: Saints' Worst Nightmare

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GrumpyOne wrote:
barks4eva wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:
barks4eva wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:Will not be Rooey doing a knee in the pre-season...... It'll be that the charges against Lovett will be dropped.

Will cost us $2M, cause the resignation of the coach and half the board, place the future of a couple of players in doubt, and with the resultant financial burden and morale devastation, drop us to the bottom of the ladder.

The Board have really gambled big time on the decision to sack him. We could have retained him on the list, and allowed him to train and play at Sandy.

Now we have torn up his contract, we have lost the only control we had over what he had to say. We could have used his depression to put him on the long-term injury list and replaced him as a player with a rookie upgrade. Now we are one player short on the list and facing possible financial ruin. I don't want to be in the position of having to chuck a buck to meet Lovetts payout.

The role of Rooey in this debacle needs to be examined.

Complete balls-up by the club.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


FAIR DINKUM, what an absolutely clueless, laterally challenged and nonsensical load of absolute garbage!

Gumpy, I suggest you stop experimenting with your pharmaceuticals!


GET REAL!
Hi B4,

I realise that this issue probably pales into insignificance in your view when compared to GT farting at thunder and Rix as the Next Great Ruck Hope, but we should all realise what is at stake here.

The Board are punting, probably with a huge great knowledge bank at their disposal, but punting all the same.

I sincerely hope they are right..... I've already "Chucked A Buck" to save the Saints,...... don't want to do it again.

Do you expect the Board to be 100% right in their decisions all the time? Or is there a niggling doubt alone in your brain that says maybe they have gone too far with this one?
Your post is imbecilic, moronic and up there with the most ridiculous nonsense I've ever read on here and that is truly saying something!

I'd compare it to mebabble's call of sack Lyon and replace him with Bundy in the middle of 2008, any Thomas flog who has posted, "it is my understanding that Thomas would step aside if he thought there was a better man for the job" and anything posted by RF!


Refer to the thread stared by WhiteWinmar, OP truly reflects my thoughts 100%!

Seriously this is more a case of a small dick in need of string and a brick than anything else, apparently they sell pumps on the internet these days, if the string and brick be not your preferred option!
LOL

Perhaps I could borrow your string and brick after you have finished with it.

No need to deliver it, just leave it in the coach's box at the ground.

I'll PM you a map so you can find the coach's box.

I know you have troubles with those. :wink:
why do debates always have to turn into penis comments fro you guys ??


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Post: # 883331Post GrumpyOne »

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:why do debates always have to turn into penis comments fro you guys ??
I think you'll find that I didn't raise the penis on this thread.


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Post: # 883334Post degruch »

GrumpyOne wrote:
st_Trav_ofWA wrote:why do debates always have to turn into penis comments fro you guys ??
I think you'll find that I didn't raise the penis on this thread.
Yeah, it doesn't do much for me either.


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Post: # 883335Post The Craw »

GrumpyOne wrote:
st_Trav_ofWA wrote:why do debates always have to turn into penis comments fro you guys ??
I think you'll find that I didn't raise the penis on this thread.
Yeh but somehow it always seems to raise it ugly head !


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Post: # 883337Post matrix »

well if the measuerment was in inches in that pic you wouldnt be posting here today youd be hearing....
"...and...action!"



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Post: # 883339Post GrumpyOne »

matrix wrote:well if the measuerment was in inches in that pic you wouldnt be posting here today youd be hearing....
"...and...action!"



8-)
That's nothing.

I could get mine to that size in inches.......... If I folded it in half. :shock:


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Post: # 883340Post st_Trav_ofWA »

GrumpyOne wrote:
st_Trav_ofWA wrote:why do debates always have to turn into penis comments fro you guys ??
I think you'll find that I didn't raise the penis on this thread.
not a dig at you personally just noticing more and more penis referances in posts and i dont get it ?


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The Craw wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Firstly he was sacked because a the rape charge.
No he wasn't. He was sacked because he broke his contract. He was gone regardless, charged or not charged.

What happened on that night and the subsequent events following, in addition to the numerous misdemeanors before that, culminated in his sacking.

Even if he is cleared of charges, it won't change anything....he...broke ...his...contract.

End of storey.

He was not sacked until after charges were laid / not laid as it would have been deemed as prejudicial to the investigation and subsequent hearing if in fact he was charged. Which as we all know now that he has now been charged?

How you can argue that sacking him after the charges have been laid is beyond me.

St Kilda has categorically stated that his termination was in relation to Lovett not meeting contractual obligations.

Why do you think Lovett’s lawyers have gone the bullying angle?

That is the only avenue they have to try and get a monitory settlement.
How much money has the tooth fairy given you over the years. Why would sacking a player effect a criminal court case? He was sacked because of the rape charge. All the other things were incidental. he havent even trained with us for 8 weeks so how did he break any rules in that time. The club have rightly said there were other reasons as well as the incident on 24 December.


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Post: # 883346Post matrix »

with respect...
if he was sacked due to a rape charge the club would have said so


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matrix wrote:with respect...
if he was sacked due to a rape charge the club would have said so
They couldnt and wouldnt.


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Post: # 883351Post degruch »

plugger66 wrote:
matrix wrote:with respect...
if he was sacked due to a rape charge the club would have said so
They couldnt and wouldnt.
The same reason why he wasn't sacked because of the rape charge then? Officially he was sacked due to his poor behaviour and failure to meet training milestones...I'm sure they didn't just make that up. Read between the lines all you want.


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degruch wrote:
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matrix wrote:with respect...
if he was sacked due to a rape charge the club would have said so
They couldnt and wouldnt.
The same reason why he wasn't sacked because of the rape charge then? Officially he was sacked due to his poor behaviour and failure to meet training milestones...I'm sure they didn't just make that up. Read between the lines all you want.
Another tooth fairy man. He was out of the club on the 23rd of December. What happened that night?


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plugger66 wrote:
matrix wrote:with respect...
if he was sacked due to a rape charge the club would have said so
They couldnt and wouldnt.
So all of this is your opinion only?


Lance or James??

There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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