I Support the Club

[Milan Faletic]

Hey OLB and Joffaboy

Are you guys going tonight?

Have you guys met before?

[joffaboy]

Hey OLB and Joffaboy

Are you guys going tonight?

Have you guys met before?

Nah haven't met OLB, but would have a beer with him if I ever did, same as anyone on SS (thats if i could get around his huge lard arse to get to the bar ).

OLB is fine, and quite funny, its all in good fun (except that OLB is very fat )

[markp]

As for the coach's comment

''What we do is create an environment of coaching and a support network for our players and we pay them accordingly. It's really important to get the relativities right. We'd like to think Lenny [Hayes] and 'Rooey' [Riewoldt] are paid right up the top and then everyone falls in right behind them.

''At times, everyone sees the relativities differently. At the end of the day, there are a lot of elements that go into making a strong club and players wanting to stay and if someone's perception sits outside that a little bit, well they leave.''

if someone could explain to me precisely what that means, I'll have some idea of whether I can support it or not.

It means we offer players what we believe they are worth, and if they dont agree they can leave.

If it means that Luke left for more $$$, then why didn't Lyon simply say that?

C'mon... imagine the shyte storm if he said that outright.... what he said above equates to exactly that, without providing an easy quote for a cheap headline, or for anyone to feel the need to return fire.

[JMsainter]

Reading between the lines, I think that was a nice way of saying that Ball left for more money.

In other words:

We give players every opportunity to excell.
Club offer Ball a contract "relative" to his value to the team.
Ball's "relativities" are higher than the club's.
Ball is dropped and probably cracks it.
Conners sounds out opposition clubs to see what their "relativites" towards Ball might be.
Pies indicate that Ball might fit into their theory of "relativities".
Ball continues to play, and is selected in the Grand Final (despit Ross hating him).
Upon confirmation, Ball leaves for the Pies.
Ball pisses on his mates who lowered their "relativites" to keep the group together.
Ball could find himself crying again after this year's Grand Final - for all the wrong reasons.

[stinger]

Reading between the lines, I think that was a nice way of saying that Ball left for more money.

In other words:

We give players every opportunity to excell.
Club offer Ball a contract "relative" to his value to the team.
Ball's "relativities" are higher than the club's.
Ball is dropped and probably cracks it.
Conners sounds out opposition clubs to see what their "relativites" towards Ball might be.
Pies indicate that Ball might fit into their theory of "relativities".
Ball continues to play, and is selected in the Grand Final (despit Ross hating him).
Upon confirmation, Ball leaves for the Pies.
Ball pisses on his mates who lowered their "relativites" to keep the group together.
Ball could find himself crying again after this year's Grand Final - for all the wrong reasons.

you make this crap up as you go along do you....???/ffs.....what a load of bollocks...and what a disservice you do to a former captain and joint best and fairest winner for my club.....i wouldn't use the word "our" where you are involved...

[JMsainter]

Good God, man. Disagree with my views by all means. But try not to get personal. Or are you looking to start trouble again? Why don't you simply ignore me? Grow up!

[barks4eva]

what a load of bollocks...and what a disservice you do to a former captain and joint best and fairest winner for my club.....

Still blaming St kilda and Ross Lyon,........oh dear!

[JMsainter]

what a load of bollocks...and what a disservice you do to a former captain and joint best and fairest winner for my club.....

Still blaming St kilda and Ross Lyon,........oh dear!

Well according to his comments, it is HIS club, so he can blame whomever he wishes. The club is bigger than any individual player, so I'll stand by my comments and my support for the club in this matter.

[stinger]

Good God, man. Disagree with my views by all means. But try not to get personal. Or are you looking to start trouble again? Why don't you simply ignore me? Grow up!

because firstly i disagree strongly with the crap you and others are heaping on ball..and secondly i saw the cowardly cheap shots you continued to post about me on the general forum.....you called me a monster...and.i have a long memory...

[stinger]

what a load of bollocks...and what a disservice you do to a former captain and joint best and fairest winner for my club.....

Still blaming St kilda and Ross Lyon,........oh dear!

i stand by what i say....always have ..always will...same as you.....we lost a damn fine footballer and i asked the question why.....i know some of the answers....but not all....i am sick and tired of the crap heaped on him by people i consider to be nothing more than turkeys...that's all....

[stinger]

what a load of bollocks...and what a disservice you do to a former captain and joint best and fairest winner for my club.....

Still blaming St kilda and Ross Lyon,........oh dear!

Well according to his comments, it is HIS club, so he can blame whomever he wishes. The club is bigger than any individual player, so I'll stand by my comments and my support for the club in this matter.

and i basically couldn't give a rat's testicle what you think ...or stand for...but you wanna heap sh!t on a player...be he current or former...without knowing the facts ...expect me to comment.....

[MCG-Unit]

Reading between the lines, I think that was a nice way of saying that Ball left for more money.

In other words:

We give players every opportunity to excell.
Club offer Ball a contract "relative" to his value to the team.
Ball's "relativities" are higher than the club's.
Ball is dropped and probably cracks it.
Conners sounds out opposition clubs to see what their "relativites" towards Ball might be.
Pies indicate that Ball might fit into their theory of "relativities".
Ball continues to play, and is selected in the Grand Final (despit Ross hating him).
Upon confirmation, Ball leaves for the Pies.
Ball pisses on his mates who lowered their "relativites" to keep the group together.
Ball could find himself crying again after this year's Grand Final - for all the wrong reasons.

I disagree also, with all the crapola heaped on Luke Ball - where did you get most of this ? - enough already on Ball

[JMsainter]

what a load of bollocks...and what a disservice you do to a former captain and joint best and fairest winner for my club.....

Still blaming St kilda and Ross Lyon,........oh dear!

Well according to his comments, it is HIS club, so he can blame whomever he wishes. The club is bigger than any individual player, so I'll stand by my comments and my support for the club in this matter.

and i basically couldn't give a rat's testicle what you think ...or stand for...but you wanna heap sh!t on a player...be he current or former...without knowing the facts ...expect me to comment.....

Who exactly is putting sh1t on Luke? I am expressing my view on how things unfolded. And I won't stand by and let people heap sh1t on the club, its admin, or coach.

Oh well, if you really don't care, why comment on my post? Are you defending Luke, or simply grasping at an opportunity to take a cheap shot at me. Read your signature old chum, and take your own advise, rather than inflaming this thread. Quite simple really. Now please stop stalking my comments.

[bigred]

LMFAO!!

A monster!

Rarw!

Its amazing what you miss when you stop reading crap arguement threads.

[stinger]

what a load of bollocks...and what a disservice you do to a former captain and joint best and fairest winner for my club.....

Still blaming St kilda and Ross Lyon,........oh dear!

Well according to his comments, it is HIS club, so he can blame whomever he wishes. The club is bigger than any individual player, so I'll stand by my comments and my support for the club in this matter.

and i basically couldn't give a rat's testicle what you think ...or stand for...but you wanna heap sh!t on a player...be he current or former...without knowing the facts ...expect me to comment.....

Oh well, if you real don't care, why comment on my post? Are you defending Luke, or simply grasping at an opportunity to take a cheap shot at me. Read your signature old chum, and take your own advise, rather than inflaming this thread. Quite simple really. Now please stop stalking my commnets.

firstly...i'm not your old chum....you want me to stop commenting on your threads..stop making smart arse commentts about me to others...like the one above to b4e....it's a public forum..and i will make comments when and where i like...mods permitting.....don't like it stop posting crap.....

[JMsainter]

Reading between the lines, I think that was a nice way of saying that Ball left for more money.

In other words:

We give players every opportunity to excell.
Club offer Ball a contract "relative" to his value to the team.
Ball's "relativities" are higher than the club's.
Ball is dropped and probably cracks it.
Conners sounds out opposition clubs to see what their "relativites" towards Ball might be.
Pies indicate that Ball might fit into their theory of "relativities".
Ball continues to play, and is selected in the Grand Final (despit Ross hating him).
Upon confirmation, Ball leaves for the Pies.
Ball pisses on his mates who lowered their "relativites" to keep the group together.
Ball could find himself crying again after this year's Grand Final - for all the wrong reasons.

I disagree also, with all the crapola heaped on Luke Ball - where did you get most of this ? - enough already on Ball

My interpretation of events. In other words, my opinion. This is my view of what might have happened. Good luck to Luke if he sought a better deal. I'mnot begrudging him that. I hope he hasn't made the wrong decision.

[stinger]

LMFAO!!

A monster!

Rarw!

Its amazing what you miss when you stop reading crap arguement threads.

yeah...i stopped altogether for about 6 days...haven't gone back to catch up either....sick of tiresome posts.....

[stinger]

Reading between the lines, I think that was a nice way of saying that Ball left for more money.

In other words:

We give players every opportunity to excell.
Club offer Ball a contract "relative" to his value to the team.
Ball's "relativities" are higher than the club's.
Ball is dropped and probably cracks it.
Conners sounds out opposition clubs to see what their "relativites" towards Ball might be.
Pies indicate that Ball might fit into their theory of "relativities".
Ball continues to play, and is selected in the Grand Final (despit Ross hating him).
Upon confirmation, Ball leaves for the Pies.
Ball pisses on his mates who lowered their "relativites" to keep the group together.
Ball could find himself crying again after this year's Grand Final - for all the wrong reasons.

I disagree also, with all the crapola heaped on Luke Ball -


j where did you get most of this ? - enough already on Ball

it's just a fairytale mate...made up by some newbie big noter trying to impress the ball haters.....

[JMsainter]

what a load of bollocks...and what a disservice you do to a former captain and joint best and fairest winner for my club.....

Still blaming St kilda and Ross Lyon,........oh dear!

Well according to his comments, it is HIS club, so he can blame whomever he wishes. The club is bigger than any individual player, so I'll stand by my comments and my support for the club in this matter.

and i basically couldn't give a rat's testicle what you think ...or stand for...but you wanna heap sh!t on a player...be he current or former...without knowing the facts ...expect me to comment.....

Oh well, if you real don't care, why comment on my post? Are you defending Luke, or simply grasping at an opportunity to take a cheap shot at me. Read your signature old chum, and take your own advise, rather than inflaming this thread. Quite simple really. Now please stop stalking my commnets.

firstly...i'm not your old chum....you want me to stop commenting on your threads..stop making smart arse commentts about me to others...like the one above to b4e....it's a public forum..and i will make comments when and where i like...mods permitting.....don't like it stop posting crap.....

Excuse me? Oh, playing the victim again are we? YOU replied to my comments in your usual charming way.

Oh fruck it. No point arguing with an idiot. Go away sad person.

Read yor sig. Take your own advice. Quit stalking and being a bully. No one asked you to dance.

[stinger]

Reading between the lines, I think that was a nice way of saying that Ball left for more money.

In other words:

We give players every opportunity to excell.
Club offer Ball a contract "relative" to his value to the team.
Ball's "relativities" are higher than the club's.
Ball is dropped and probably cracks it.
Conners sounds out opposition clubs to see what their "relativites" towards Ball might be.
Pies indicate that Ball might fit into their theory of "relativities".
Ball continues to play, and is selected in the Grand Final (despit Ross hating him).
Upon confirmation, Ball leaves for the Pies.
Ball pisses on his mates who lowered their "relativites" to keep the group together.
Ball could find himself crying again after this year's Grand Final - for all the wrong reasons.

I disagree also, with all the crapola heaped on Luke Ball - where did you get most of this ? - enough already on Ball

My interpretation of events. In other words, my opinion. This is my view of what might have happened.

[meher baba]

Upon confirmation, Ball leaves for the Pies.

How nice for Luke: a new club, a new contract and being able to participate in Holy Communion all at the same time. He must be thrilled.

[meher baba]

Ball pisses on his mates who lowered their "relativites" to keep the group together.

Oh dear, your next line doesn't say much for the impact of Christianity on the behaviour of young people today.

[JMsainter]

Ball pisses on his mates who lowered their "relativites" to keep the group together.

Oh dear, your next line doesn't say much for the impact of Christianity on the behaviour of young people today.

Thank you for the comic relief Mr Baba. Nice to see one line comments rather than your usual remblings. Keep up the good work. As someone else stated, the "posse" has arrived. Too amusing.

[barks4eva]

what a load of bollocks...and what a disservice you do to a former captain and joint best and fairest winner for my club.....

Still blaming St kilda and Ross Lyon,........oh dear!

i stand by what i say....always have ..always will...same as you.....we lost a damn fine footballer and i asked the question why.....i know some of the answers....but not all....i am sick and tired of the crap heaped on him by people i consider to be nothing more than turkeys...that's all....

You know SFA, so you heard the club put him up for trade 6 weeks before the finals, so what!

You know NOTHING about what happened in house and your comments regarding Luke Ball being disrespected by Lyon and St kilda is the height of all ignorance!

The only player in the AFL to have two interchange breaches costing us goals both times indicates Ball had a difficult time following instructions!

You're not the coach, so you know absolutely nothing and the fact that Riewoldt said what he did publicly shows how much feeling there is about what Luke Ball did and IMHO, he probably acted like a prima donna private schoolboy and brought it all upon himself!

AND who was the moron who put him on $600,000, more than Lenny Hayes at the time, to start with? FAIR DINKUM

If Ball was only getting $450,000 or $500,000 as he should have been, the drop in salary to an amount of $350,000 reflecting his true worth might not have been so big and might not have resulted in him refusing to sign a contract to begin with!

The fact is Ball was very well looked after on $600,000 a year when his true worth was much less and other players were getting paid less because of Ball's huge salary!

Ball was not worthy of commanding such big dollars to begin with!

Are the DNA results in yet?

[Beej]

Hey OLB and Joffaboy

Are you guys going tonight?

Have you guys met before?

No, never met before but if this place is anything to go by, what might start as friendly ribbing would, in the space of about five minutes, turn into the two of us smashing pint glasses over each others heads.

Our little tete-a-tetes are part of my Saintsational experience.