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the information i posted above was told to me this morning and came from a club official
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Was he OK with it being posted on this Forum??
Like a lot of stuff that gets an airing here you mean?
This info would confirm what I wrote above about RLs reaction and also the playing group's opinions. Will also make it a VERY sticky situation if (when?) AL is found not guilty.
If the story above was true it must have been quite a night if AL allegedly ended up in that bed and the girl did not know her BF was not in there. Must be a HUGE apartment. Crazy!!!
I wonder which person AL thought got in the bed or was HE supposedly asleep? WTF? This is confusing.
Can some legal eagle like Stinger tell us how on earth they could select an unbiased jury for this case - people with no prior knowledge of the case?
This is a team game and there is no room for individuals who think they are above walking through the fire.
Girlfriend.... As in the girl that Gram had been with, ie kissing, at the bar they had been at previously. Not sure as in girlfriend like an exclusive thing that had been happening for awhile.
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Can some legal eagle like Stinger tell us how on earth they could select an unbiased jury for this case - people with no prior knowledge of the case?[/quote]
The same way they do with all well known people. They do the best they can.
Believe it or not - I know literally stacks of people who wouldn't have the first clue who AL is. Sad, I know, but true.
the information i posted above was told to me this morning and came from a club official
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Was he OK with it being posted on this Forum??
i don't know....the question was asked ...what's happening with lovett..?....that was the answer ...given freely.....there were other people around....no one was told..."off the record "so as to speak...
.would the club want it publicised..maybe ...maybe not... i thought about whether or not i would post it....given the speculation and thousands of posts on here...this is the clearest indication yet that i know about ,,as to what the club's true position on lovett is....they don't want him...full stop....and that what plugger has consistently stated...
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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Moods wrote:[quote="mbogo
Can some legal eagle like Stinger tell us how on earth they could select an unbiased jury for this case - people with no prior knowledge of the case?
The same way they do with all well known people. They do the best they can.
Believe it or not - I know literally stacks of people who wouldn't have the first clue who AL is. Sad, I know, but true. [/quote]
yep.......
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
"Freedom of expression is the cornerstone of a free society,"
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Moods wrote:Girlfriend.... As in the girl that Gram had been with, ie kissing, at the bar they had been at previously. Not sure as in girlfriend like an exclusive thing that had been happening for awhile.
...i don't know the answer to that...only what the official said....
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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stinger wrote: the information i posted above was told to me this morning and came from a club official.....i don't know if it's true or not...as i alluded to above...certainly the source of my information described her as gram's girlfriend and said the club was supporting him.....
Seriously do you think he would be happy with you posting this on the internet for all to see?
Are you big noting yourself as if your somehow connected to the inner sanctum and we should all take you seriously?
I get told stuff but would never betray or compromise a source by making it public knowledge like you have just done!
stinger wrote: the information i posted above was told to me this morning and came from a club official.....i don't know if it's true or not...as i alluded to above...certainly the source of my information described her as gram's girlfriend and said the club was supporting him.....
Seriously do you think he would be happy with you posting this on the internet for all to see?
Are you big noting yourself as if your somehow connected to the inner sanctum and we should all take you seriously?
I get told stuff but would never betray or compromise a source by making it public knowledge like you have just done!
this information would eventually be revealed somewhere, all we are trying to do is figure out what is going on at our club and with the players. id rather the truth than all the rumours and induendos.
kos wrote:lovett to be be found not guilty, an announcement will be be as early as next week!
So..this is the truth???
Hmmm..either you are just guessing..or on the off-chance you are in possesion of some actual facts you are taking a big risk releasing them on a Football forum before anything is officially announed
Care to tell us which it is?? It has to be one or the other. Hope you realise also that posting this sort of stuff as fact can score you a warning if it turns out you were in actual fact guessing
kos wrote:lovett to be be found not guilty, an announcement will be be as early as next week!
So..this is the truth???
Hmmm..either you are just guessing..or on the off-chance you are in possesion of some actual facts you are taking a big risk releasing them on a Football forum before anything is officially announed
Care to tell us which it is?? It has to be one or the other. Hope you realise also that posting this sort of stuff as fact can score you a warning if it turns out you were in actual fact guessing
not guessing i posted events of what apparently happened according to lovett, this was given to me by someone who works in the media. the facts that i gave were then comfirmed by a second source who is a policeman and a close friend. he also informed me of the announcement to be made.
in saying this i cant be sure this is 100% correct because it is second hand info. All im trying to do is help shed light on a situation that may affect the club and its chances this year and find the answer that everyone is waiting for.
kos wrote:lovett to be be found not guilty, an announcement will be be as early as next week!
So..this is the truth??? :roll:
Hmmm..either you are just guessing..or on the off-chance you are in possesion of some actual facts you are taking a big risk releasing them on a Football forum before anything is officially announed
Care to tell us which it is?? It has to be one or the other. Hope you realise also that posting this sort of stuff as fact can score you a warning if it turns out you were in actual fact guessing
not guessing i posted events of what apparently happened according to lovett, this was given to me by someone who works in the media. the facts that i gave were then comfirmed by a second source who is a policeman and a close friend. he also informed me of the announcement to be made.
in saying this i cant be sure this is 100% correct because it is second hand info. All im trying to do is help shed light on a situation that may affect the club and its chances this year and find the answer that everyone is waiting for.
He can't be found not guilty unless he's charged and goes to court.
kos wrote:lovett to be be found not guilty, an announcement will be be as early as next week!
So..this is the truth???
Hmmm..either you are just guessing..or on the off-chance you are in possesion of some actual facts you are taking a big risk releasing them on a Football forum before anything is officially announed
Care to tell us which it is?? It has to be one or the other. Hope you realise also that posting this sort of stuff as fact can score you a warning if it turns out you were in actual fact guessing
not guessing i posted events of what apparently happened according to lovett, this was given to me by someone who works in the media. the facts that i gave were then comfirmed by a second source who is a policeman and a close friend. he also informed me of the announcement to be made.
in saying this i cant be sure this is 100% correct because it is second hand info. All im trying to do is help shed light on a situation that may affect the club and its chances this year and find the answer that everyone is waiting for.
He can't be found not guilty unless he's charged and goes to court.
no charges will be laid against him!
does that make more sense to you champ!!
If he is not charged then he plays. No other way to go.
Make the bugger earn his money. If anyone playing at the club has issues. Then BYE BYE baby good bye.
Leave your ego's in the locker when you start and pick them up again when you retire
Longwayfromhome wrote:If he is not charged then he plays. No other way to go.
Make the bugger earn his money. If anyone playing at the club has issues. Then BYE BYE baby good bye.
If the playing group and coaches don't want him then he will go, only reason nothing has been done is because the police have not decided to charge him or not....
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Lovett will play if cleared. It would be completely unfair and stupid to not let him play. If he is cleared, I will be contacting the club saying that I expect him to be given every chance to show us his mettle on the field.
These cases are never cut and dry and highlight a huge hole in our justice system. There's so much unwitnessed. It's almost - if not entirely - impossible to come to a 'conclusion 'beyond reasonable doubt.'
Whatever the outcome the club has done everything right.
If he faces charges, so be it.
If not, earn that place, bud. Two strikes (preseason drinking; alleged sexual assault)...StKFC circa '10 ain't the mug it's predecessor may have been. Third strike ain't gonna be pretty...
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