Should the AFL redevelop Moorabbin as a Boutique Stadium?

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Should the AFL redevelop Moorabbin as a Boutique Stadium?

Post: # 865043Post Ice Wolf »

With the reported need for a smaller stadium like Skilled to host lower drawing matches could the AFL redevelop Moorabbin?

At the moment the place is basically cleaned up and ready to be developed, demolition of the old stands is mostly done.

I'm sure that the location would have the support of Hawthorn, Richmond, St Kilda and Melbourne.

With the support of the AFL I'm sure that State Government would be able overrule the Kingston City Council and grant planning approval.

All that would need to be decided would be the size 30-35k or 35-40k.

They could also redevelop the Moorabbin station and revitalise the area.


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Im pretty sure it will happen in the next few years.


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Re: Should the AFL redevelop Moorabbin as a Boutique Stadium

Post: # 865048Post bobmurray »

Ice Wolf wrote:With the reported need for a smaller stadium like Skilled to host lower drawing matches could the AFL redevelop Moorabbin?

At the moment the place is basically cleaned up and ready to be developed, demolition of the old stands is mostly done.

I'm sure that the location would have the support of Hawthorn, Richmond, St Kilda and Melbourne.

With the support of the AFL I'm sure that State Government would be able overrule the Kingston City Council and grant planning approval.

All that would need to be decided would be the size 30-35k or 35-40k.

They could also redevelop the Moorabbin station and revitalise the area.
You could be onto something :lol:


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Post: # 865052Post ausfatcat »

council wont approve it and I doubt any of those clubs would support it either


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Post: # 865054Post Ice Wolf »

ausfatcat wrote:council wont approve it and I doubt any of those clubs would support it either
Council doesn't need to approve it, they can be overruled by Spring Street, they might not be willing to do it for a redeveloped training ground but they probably would for a sports stadium which will bring in money.

Those clubs would support it depending on the capacity, if it was 35-40k Richmond and Hawthorn would probably come on board to play against low drawing interstate sides of which there are soon to be 2 more. Melbourne don't care where a boutique stadium would be and I'm sure the saints would have no objection.

I'd say you could probably guarantee at least 14 games a year + pre-season as well as local league Grand Finals ect.


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Post: # 865060Post ausfatcat »

Regardless of the size you wouldn't fill it with 30,000 consistantly especially the non saints teams.


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Post: # 865062Post Ice Wolf »

ausfatcat wrote:Regardless of the size you wouldn't fill it with 30,000 consistantly especially the non saints teams.
Would certainly be cheaper to play at than Docklands though.


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Post: # 865063Post ausfatcat »

Ice Wolf wrote:
ausfatcat wrote:Regardless of the size you wouldn't fill it with 30,000 consistantly especially the non saints teams.
Would certainly be cheaper to play at than Docklands though.

Are you sure???


Absolute max 10 games a year, max average crowds of 20,000 cost of the redevelopment ect ect Cost of running and development would have to be covered from those matches..


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ausfatcat wrote:
Ice Wolf wrote:
ausfatcat wrote:Regardless of the size you wouldn't fill it with 30,000 consistantly especially the non saints teams.
Would certainly be cheaper to play at than Docklands though.

Are you sure???


Absolute max 10 games a year, max average crowds of 20,000 cost of the redevelopment ect ect Cost of running and development would have to be covered from those matches..
Crowds would be higher than 20k (average would probably be in the mid to high 20's at the least) and i would say 10 games would be the min (Saints 4, Melbourne 4, Richmond 2+, Hawthorn 2+) and if the AFL can negotiate for the State government to pay for it like MRS than yes it will be cheaper. Will also force the cost down as it will have to compete with Docklands and MCG for games meaning the return at all 3 will likely be higher.


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Ice Wolf wrote:
ausfatcat wrote:
Ice Wolf wrote:
ausfatcat wrote:Regardless of the size you wouldn't fill it with 30,000 consistantly especially the non saints teams.
Would certainly be cheaper to play at than Docklands though.

Are you sure???


Absolute max 10 games a year, max average crowds of 20,000 cost of the redevelopment ect ect Cost of running and development would have to be covered from those matches..
Crowds would be higher than 20k (average would probably be in the mid to high 20's at the least) and i would say 10 games would be the min (Saints 4, Melbourne 4, Richmond 2+, Hawthorn 2+) and if the AFL can negotiate for the State government to pay for it like MRS than yes it will be cheaper. Will also force the cost down as it will have to compete with Docklands and MCG for games meaning the return at all 3 will likely be higher.
There is no doubt it will happen. I think they will play there next year or at the latest 2 years.


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Post: # 865075Post Milan Faletic »

It will never happen.

Punt Road and Visy Park and even Port Melbourne have more chance than Moorabbin.

Moorabbin is done. Sad but true.


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Post: # 865076Post Enrico_Misso »

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Post: # 865083Post goodie »

Accessibility is the big problem, Moorabbin station's a short walk but you have to be on the Frankston line to use it. The car park's impractical for a crowd above 50. And Safeway would chuck a fit when their car park got filled with the inevitable football crowd.


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About the same chance as a snow flakes has in hell.

So the state government overides the council but every time you want to sneeze you need council approval which will not be forth coming.
So every time you want to sneeze you will then need the state government to over-ride.

The club is moving to Seaford because Kingston Council made it clear they were not welcome.
The club got the message and avoided an on going war for the next few decades.


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Post: # 865086Post ace »

AND who pays.

Geelong had a city council that had a constituency that was nearly all Geelong supporters.
They could get away with building Semi Skilled Stadium with rate payers money because it was for Geelong.

Sadly despite being the most popular club in the area the majority of the population around Moorabbin does not support St Kilda FC.
That is how Kingston got away with pushing St Kilda out.


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Post: # 865087Post ace »

Dockland's owners need to make a profit and pay for the construction cost of the stadium because eventually the ownership transfers to the AFL.
If less games are played at Docklands, the price for those games thatare left at Docklands will have to increased in the next contract.
Allowing Geelong to play at Semi Skilled Stadium indirectly increases the cost to those clubs left playing at Docklands.


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Post: # 865099Post Sunday Red »

Lol. What a joke of an idea.

Will NEVER happen.

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Post: # 865100Post shmic_s »

Looks like there are a number of options being floated around.

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/n ... -kk0q.html

A NEW boutique AFL stadium, modified to host World Cup soccer games, has emerged as a possible solution to the venue crisis that threatens to derail Australia's World Cup bid


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Post: # 865121Post matrix »

someone jump the fence and get me a nice big healthy sod of dirt and grass. and keep it growing till i get over around finals time.

(shoulda done it when gaz and i were there after the GF weekend, we were half over the fenced at one point lol)

id like to sow it on my block :)


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matrixcutter wrote:someone jump the fence and get me a nice big healthy sod of dirt and grass. and keep it growing till i get over around finals time.

(shoulda done it when gaz and i were there after the GF weekend, we were half over the fenced at one point lol)

id like to sow it on my block :)
I'll get you the dirt matrix, just can't guarantee it will still be alive by Sept :P


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Post: # 865125Post matrix »

lol
im expecting a pot plant with a nice bit of healthy saints turf in it.
surely you can water it every few days from now till sept :P

s*** im hanging for some footy.
im gonna have to watch some replays this weekend i reckon :idea:


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Post: # 865137Post Spinner »

plugger66 wrote:
Ice Wolf wrote:
ausfatcat wrote:
Ice Wolf wrote:
ausfatcat wrote:Regardless of the size you wouldn't fill it with 30,000 consistantly especially the non saints teams.
Would certainly be cheaper to play at than Docklands though.

Are you sure???


Absolute max 10 games a year, max average crowds of 20,000 cost of the redevelopment ect ect Cost of running and development would have to be covered from those matches..
Crowds would be higher than 20k (average would probably be in the mid to high 20's at the least) and i would say 10 games would be the min (Saints 4, Melbourne 4, Richmond 2+, Hawthorn 2+) and if the AFL can negotiate for the State government to pay for it like MRS than yes it will be cheaper. Will also force the cost down as it will have to compete with Docklands and MCG for games meaning the return at all 3 will likely be higher.
There is no doubt it will happen. I think they will play there next year or at the latest 2 years.

Haha I was thinking wtf....Until I saw Milan's post which reassured me.


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Post: # 865144Post Saint Bev »

Wern't they or are they going to do that with Princess Park?


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Spinner wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Ice Wolf wrote:
ausfatcat wrote:
Ice Wolf wrote:
ausfatcat wrote:Regardless of the size you wouldn't fill it with 30,000 consistantly especially the non saints teams.
Would certainly be cheaper to play at than Docklands though.

Are you sure???


Absolute max 10 games a year, max average crowds of 20,000 cost of the redevelopment ect ect Cost of running and development would have to be covered from those matches..
Crowds would be higher than 20k (average would probably be in the mid to high 20's at the least) and i would say 10 games would be the min (Saints 4, Melbourne 4, Richmond 2+, Hawthorn 2+) and if the AFL can negotiate for the State government to pay for it like MRS than yes it will be cheaper. Will also force the cost down as it will have to compete with Docklands and MCG for games meaning the return at all 3 will likely be higher.
There is no doubt it will happen. I think they will play there next year or at the latest 2 years.

Haha I was thinking wtf....Until I saw Milan's post which reassured me.
Not a hope.

Car parking issue will kibosh it.


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Post: # 865157Post Maxstar22 »

matrixcutter wrote:lol
im expecting a pot plant with a nice bit of healthy saints turf in it.
surely you can water it every few days from now till sept :P

s*** im hanging for some footy.
im gonna have to watch some replays this weekend i reckon :idea:
Ok, youre on. I'll see if they will let me on the ground or even near the ground. Have to go there over the weekend to purchase some Xmas pressies anyways.

I am def no green thumb, so I can't make any promises :wink:

Oh and as for the parking issue, there are a few spare spots at my house they could use - I could charge $5 (so much cheaper than Etihad) and its not that far of a walk :lol:


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