Lovett Caught Drinking

The Fireman · Mon 16 Nov 2009 7:52am

The Club hasn't said anything?

ace · Post: # 858819Post **ace** » Mon 16 Nov 2009 8:04am

Moods wrote:
ace wrote:He has left the security of his former "friends" at Essendon and has yet to join his new friends at St Kilda.

Let's hope his new friends show him the right way and keep him out of further trouble.

Not sure you can lump this with the saints players Ace. In my opinion it has to come from the individual. Saints can set an example, can tell him what is expected of him, but really the rest is up to him. The most concerning thing for me is that I would have thought he'd be trying to prove to everyone he's a changed person, regardless of whether training has started or not. Hopefully this is the jolt that snaps him out of his stupidity.

What I was trying to indicate is that he has been alone over the past few weeks, without a club or team mates to accompany him or guide him.
Once training recommences he will no longer be left alone.

markp · Post: # 858822Post **markp** » Mon 16 Nov 2009 8:21am

saint66au wrote:
evertonfc wrote:A minor concern.

But if we're smart, this is a good opportunity for the leadership group to call him in explain that's not how we do things at St Kilda.
Exactly..

Would be far more concerning if it happened the Sat before Round 1...but atm hes a St Kilda player pretty much in name only. Has hardly set foot in the place

Would love to be a fly on the wall when he fronts the leadership group

Yup and yup... in many ways it probably is an opportunity.

It's nice to have confidence in our culture and processes... hopefully this will have a happy ending.

saintbrat · Post: # 858824Post **saintbrat** » Mon 16 Nov 2009 8:41am

The Fireman wrote:The Club hasn't said anything?

Greg Hutchison confirmed the arrest
and said the leadership group would speak to Andrew when they returned .......

aussiejones · Mon 16 Nov 2009 11:03am

Lets look on the bright side !!

Better it happened now rather than later......it gives the Club time and reason to come on strong to lay it out rather tan base it on past history or hearsay.

Perhaps he needs a mentor and some personal life coaching .

Ross and the boys will sort it out .....

The Fireman · Mon 16 Nov 2009 11:18am

saintbrat wrote:
The Fireman wrote:The Club hasn't said anything?
Greg Hutchison confirmed the arrest
and said the leadership group would speak to Andrew when they returned .......

I'm sure it will be nipped in the bud, when they start training he will have support around the clock.
Some blokes need it.

asiu · Post: # 858853Post **asiu** » Mon 16 Nov 2009 11:34am

not gunna read this thread

...form with alochol.

its laid waste to a lot of my crew

judge carefully everyone

with some allowance , hopefully

SteveStevens66 · Mon 16 Nov 2009 11:34am

The link to the story below from today's Age is NOT meant to suggest Lovett was picked up because he is aboriginal. Alone, drunk, on the street at 6:00AM is a disgrace. He was probably simply a danger to himself.

But the story does reflect a reality in certain parts of Australia--hopefully not in Melbourne--that sometimes racial bias and policing are indeed linked.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/stole ... -igec.html

mightysainters · Mon 16 Nov 2009 12:57pm

bad start... we have intrusted in him the least hecan do is stop drinking and try and get his career to its pinnacle

.

Pull your head in or piss off!

The days of this being the norm in st kilda are gone and we don't need this crap again

desertsaint · Mon 16 Nov 2009 1:57pm

gazrat wrote:not gunna read this thread

...form with alochol.
its laid waste to a lot of my crew

...

bald, cross-dressing bankers

markp · Post: # 858897Post **markp** » Mon 16 Nov 2009 3:03pm

its laid waste to a lot of my crew

Yup, dont think I've known anyone with a drinking problem who sorted it out... it's virtually impossible to get away from, and so easily disguised as just a bit of fun.

The Fireman · Mon 16 Nov 2009 3:31pm

markp wrote:
its laid waste to a lot of my crew
Yup, dont think I've known anyone with a drinking problem who sorted it out... it's virtually impossible to get away from, and so easily disguised as just a bit of fun.

Correct...I have lot's of fun.

Milan Faletic · Mon 16 Nov 2009 8:34pm

Any more news on this? Nothing on the Herald Sun website today.

St Fidelius · Mon 16 Nov 2009 8:41pm

Milan Faletic wrote:Any more news on this? Nothing on the Herald Sun website today.

It's just being drunk in a public place and believe it or not some get locked up for their own safety and not because they have done anything more.

I would not expect the Club to comment any much further and keep it in house, after all it was whilst he was on leave and not in training.

Milan Faletic · Mon 16 Nov 2009 8:43pm

St Fidelius wrote:
Milan Faletic wrote:Any more news on this? Nothing on the Herald Sun website today.
It's just being drunk in a public place and believe it or not some get locked up for their own safety and not because they have done anything more.

I would not expect the Club to comment any much further and keep it in house, after all it was whilst he was on leave and not in training.

That's good. The club have done well.

saintbrat · Post: # 858984Post **saintbrat** » Mon 16 Nov 2009 8:49pm

always alert to how others view the Saints- those from ' outside' but with in football

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David the Ox- said of the incident- the leadership group at St Kilda will handle it much differantly than the Bombers did last year - more mature been together longer etc.

Teflon · Post: # 858987Post **Teflon** » Mon 16 Nov 2009 9:11pm

As long as his contract has some element of performance linked to decent behaviour Id be happy....I mean he has history and Im sure the last thing Lyon wants to look stupid after losing a club captain and picking up a dill.

Needless to say the ex-club captians a mercenary...

saintbrat · Post: # 859001Post **saintbrat** » Mon 16 Nov 2009 9:36pm

I wonder if the Club ( or any club)has ever approached Tim Pekin

http://www.carglass.com.au/car-glass-ar ... k-to-that/

Alcohol and the behaviour associated with it are entrenched strongly in our culture, and we seem to be willing participants in a not-

so-subtle orgy. It's a strong mix and difficult to rally against. Especially with end-of-year parties added to all the usual justifications for indulging. No longer can we point the finger elsewhere, saying it's just them over there - they're the bingers, alcoholics and drunken louts getting blind, wasted, off their faces. Truth is, it's a societal problem - and it has been for a long time. Yet we need to look hard to see the underlying causes.

would Ross have played with him?

midas_touch · Mon 16 Nov 2009 9:50pm

Not too concerned, as long as this stuff doesn't continue once pre season training begins.

xander · Post: # 859007Post **xander** » Mon 16 Nov 2009 10:27pm

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/a ... 5798358170

Should be interesting to see what happens. Good to see that they are taking action.

bigcarl · Post: # 859012Post **bigcarl** » Mon 16 Nov 2009 10:56pm

xander wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/a ... 5798358170

Should be interesting to see what happens. Good to see that they are taking action.

There is only so much the club and it's leaders can do. Ultimately it is up to Lovett.

magnifisaint · Mon 16 Nov 2009 11:33pm

I reckon they'll give him 3 chances. 1st chance gone.

The easy way out for him is to give up the alcohol.

thirty-seven!? · Mon 16 Nov 2009 11:45pm

Surely they wouldnt kick him out of the club like the Sun is suggesting!?

Hope not...

SainterK · Post: # 859020Post **SainterK** » Mon 16 Nov 2009 11:48pm

So the Herald Sun are running a poll if we should sack him straight up?

The club is aware of the risk, and they are obviously confident that the club culture is strong enough to mould and strengthen a character.

Given that he hasn't been exposed to our club culture yet, I'm thinking washing our hands of him would be just a little hasty

stmac35 · Post: # 859021Post **stmac35** » Tue 17 Nov 2009 12:15am

They've released a statement:
http://www.realfooty.com.au/articles/20 ... 05193.html

St Kilda footballer Andrew Lovett is facing a police charge of being drunk in a public place, the AFL club announced on Monday night.

A St Kilda statement said the incident happened when Lovett, while on annual leave, was celebrating his birthday with friends at a private residence in St Kilda early Saturday morning.

Doesn't sound too bad...