Curious about Ball and Maguire

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Re: Curious about Ball and Maguire

Post: # 858762Post Spinner »

saintbrat wrote:
Spinner wrote:
saintbrat wrote:If a contract between a Club and a Player expires on 31 October in any
year, the Player shall remain registered as a Player of and be bound to
the Club until the conclusion of the National Draft Selection Meeting
in
the relevant year. This Rule does not apply if the Club deletes the
Player’s name from its List during the period 31 October until the time
and day
when the de-listed Player is able to nominate for the National
Draft Selection Meeting under Rule 4.4.3.

2.8.3 Allowance
If a Player remains bound to a Club by reason of Rule 2.8.2, the Club
must pay to the Player an allowance i
n the amount determined from
time to time by the AFL and AFLPA.
http://aflpa.com.au/sites/all/files
/AFL%20Player%20Rules%20-%202009%20Current.pdf

Going by that I Ball has been delisted - as he was able to nominate for the draft.
NO- as long as they leave his name 'On the list" he gets the allowance till the end of the National Draft meeting"
is how I read it....
same applies for both.
That isn't the list... assumed to the fact that only unlisted players can nominate for the draft....Is my interpretation.


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Post: # 858800Post bobmurray »

It's an accurate list as far as i can tell....

it'll do me....


How many defenders will The Saints pick in the 2024 draft ? :lol:
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Post: # 859094Post ace »

Luke Ball and Matt Maguire's name have now been removed from the table.

Tommy Walsh has not been added to the rookie table but then he does not become official until his name is called on 15 December 2009.


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Post: # 859108Post ThePunter »

My suggestions for numbers?

1 - Gram
2 - King
3 - Steven
4 - Jones

5 - McEvoy
6 - Geary
7 - Hayes
8 - Dawson
9 - Lovett
10 - Baker
11 - Montagna
12 - Riewoldt
13 - Schneider
14 - Eddy
15 - Gardiner
16 - Clarke
17 - Peake
18 - Goddard
19 - Gilbert
20 - Armitage
21 - Heyne
22 - Ray
23 - Koschitzke
24 - Dempster
25 - Fisher
26 - Dal Santo
27 - Blake
28 - Stanley
29 - Lynch
30 - Miles
31 - Cahill

32 - McQualter
33 - Gwilt
34 - Smith
35 -
36 - 1st ND pick
37 - 2nd ND pick
38 - 3rd ND pick
39 - 4th ND pick
40 - Walsh
41 - 1st Rookie pick
42 - 2nd Rookie pick
43 - 3rd Rookie pick

44 - Milne
45 - 4th Rookie pick
46 -
47 - Simpkin
48 - McGrath
49 - Gaertner


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Post: # 859153Post borderbarry »

I would not reward Dawson with Max's number. After all, he kept him out of the finals (I still dispute that decision). Give him a lower number, but not Max's. Maybe 6.


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Post: # 859190Post plugger66 »

borderbarry wrote:I would not reward Dawson with Max's number. After all, he kept him out of the finals (I still dispute that decision). Give him a lower number, but not Max's. Maybe 6.
What are you talking about?


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borderbarry wrote:I would not reward Dawson with Max's number. After all, he kept him out of the finals (I still dispute that decision). Give him a lower number, but not Max's. Maybe 6.
So Zac sits at the selection table does he? :roll:

What a silly comment, I am tiring of the lack of support for some of our younger players.

Can't you find a balance between honouring the veterans, and getting excited about our future stars?


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Post: # 859194Post borderbarry »

I cant see why Zac should have 8. I agree he should have a lower number than he had last season, but not 8. Give him 6, Bob Murray's old number. Bob was a top Full back. I just feel that it would not be right to give Zac Max's number, unless Max OK'd it.


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borderbarry wrote:I cant see why Zac should have 8. I agree he should have a lower number than he had last season, but not 8. Give him 6, Bob Murray's old number. Bob was a top Full back. I just feel that it would not be right to give Zac Max's number, unless Max OK'd it.
Its a friggin number. Does the previous player own it? I could just about bet max will not give a stuff if Zac gets it. He isnt even at the Saints anymore to even ask him. He is now the enemy.


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Post: # 859199Post SainterK »

borderbarry wrote:I cant see why Zac should have 8. I agree he should have a lower number than he had last season, but not 8. Give him 6, Bob Murray's old number. Bob was a top Full back. I just feel that it would not be right to give Zac Max's number, unless Max OK'd it.
I can't see why he can't...


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Post: # 859200Post borderbarry »

Zac did not sit at the selection table, but it was still a choice between Max and Zac for fullback. And what would be wrong in him having Bob Murray's number?
And you are right, it is only a number.


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Post: # 859215Post Armoooo »

I can see where you're coming from BB.

Not sure where I stand at this stage, it would be good to have a full back wears number 8 tradition.

As for them being just numbers I could not disagree more, they mean a lot more. I couldn't imagine how proud I would be if I played for St Kilda and Harvey recommended me to take the great number 35...


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Post: # 859218Post Spinner »

Armoooo wrote:I can see where you're coming from BB.

Not sure where I stand at this stage, it would be good to have a full back wears number 8 tradition.

As for them being just numbers I could not disagree more, they mean a lot more. I couldn't imagine how proud I would be if I played for St Kilda and Harvey recommended me to take the great number 35...

Totally disagree.

Its a team sport (In the words of Tim Watson) - Dish the numbers out. All the numbers.

Yeh, be smart about it - Give them to players that have the potential to play 150 games in them....But hell not many do, so its a risk.


I dont believe in retiring numbers. In fact I hate it!


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Post: # 859220Post ace »

Number 14 must be burnt.

Lockett first wore number 14, got a groin injury and turned traitor for money.
Ball wore number 14, got a groin injury and turned traitor for money.


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Post: # 859221Post CaptainRiewoldt »

8 should be retired for a while like 35.

I agree give dawson 6 and yes Burn 14!!

Give STEVEN 3 he is going to be a 10 YEAR STAR FOR US probably more what a GUN! :wink:


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Post: # 859359Post loris »

ace wrote:Number 14 must be burnt.

Lockett first wore number 14, got a groin injury and turned traitor for money.
Ball wore number 14, got a groin injury and turned traitor for money.
Allan Jeans wore #14 and is the coach who won our only flag....and he never got paid his dues from the Saints :( :( :(


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