OFFICIAL: Luke Ball gone

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I just looked at the numbers and realised you are about nine times the time waster I am.

That's REALLY saying something.

Make sure you give young Lukey a kiss for me when you tuck him in with his Tigers teddy tonight.

[plugger66]

I just looked at the numbers and realised you are about nine times the time waster I am.

That's REALLY saying something.

Make sure you give young Lukey a kiss for me when you tuck him in with his Tigers teddy tonight.

I post more. You waste peoples time. Dont know Bally but if i happen to see him i will ask if I can tuck him in. doesnt worry me in the slightest he has left as he was overpaid for his ability. What i find very funny is that so many seem upset that in their words a overated player is leaving. seems like those posters should actually be happy or are they really upset with themselves because previously they had said he was star player and had great morals.

[Milton66]

I just looked at the numbers and realised you are about nine times the time waster I am.

That's REALLY saying something.

Make sure you give young Lukey a kiss for me when you tuck him in with his Tigers teddy tonight.

I post more. You waste peoples time. Dont know Bally but if i happen to see him i will ask if I can tuck him in. doesnt worry me in the slightest he has left as he was overpaid for his ability. What i find very funny is that so many seem upset that in their words a overated player is leaving. seems like those posters should actually be happy or are they really upset with themselves because previously they had said he was star player and had great morals.

You 2 need a good old fashion spanking.

[plugger66]

I just looked at the numbers and realised you are about nine times the time waster I am.

That's REALLY saying something.

Make sure you give young Lukey a kiss for me when you tuck him in with his Tigers teddy tonight.

I post more. You waste peoples time. Dont know Bally but if i happen to see him i will ask if I can tuck him in. doesnt worry me in the slightest he has left as he was overpaid for his ability. What i find very funny is that so many seem upset that in their words a overated player is leaving. seems like those posters should actually be happy or are they really upset with themselves because previously they had said he was star player and had great morals.

You 2 need a good old fashion spanking.

Sounds good.

[Milton66]

I just looked at the numbers and realised you are about nine times the time waster I am.

That's REALLY saying something.

Make sure you give young Lukey a kiss for me when you tuck him in with his Tigers teddy tonight.

I post more. You waste peoples time. Dont know Bally but if i happen to see him i will ask if I can tuck him in. doesnt worry me in the slightest he has left as he was overpaid for his ability. What i find very funny is that so many seem upset that in their words a overated player is leaving. seems like those posters should actually be happy or are they really upset with themselves because previously they had said he was star player and had great morals.

You 2 need a good old fashion spanking.

Sounds good.

My paddle or yours? Big boy.

[Moccha]

All Luke Ball threads should be nuked!

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I just looked at the numbers and realised you are about nine times the time waster I am.

That's REALLY saying something.

Make sure you give young Lukey a kiss for me when you tuck him in with his Tigers teddy tonight.

I post more. You waste peoples time. Dont know Bally but if i happen to see him i will ask if I can tuck him in. doesnt worry me in the slightest he has left as he was overpaid for his ability. What i find very funny is that so many seem upset that in their words a overated player is leaving. seems like those posters should actually be happy or are they really upset with themselves because previously they had said he was star player and had great morals.

You 2 need a good old fashion spanking.

Sounds good.

I'm more of a watcher to be honest, but I'm in. Gotta try these things, you know.

[Teflon]

Id be amazed if Ball doesnt get to pies now - so be it.

Ive not seen that many clubs draft players who simply dont wanna be there.

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Can Pies pay that much?

Not sure they have room...

[plugger66]

Can Pies pay that much?

Not sure they have room...

I have changed my mind. I thought he would go to the pies for sure but now I reckon the Demons will pick him up.

[Mr Magic]

Can Pies pay that much?

Not sure they have room...

Yep, they would have sat down with Connors and worked out the strategy beforehand.

Problem for them is that other Clubs with picks before them also have the same room in tehir salary cap.

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Can Pies pay that much?

Not sure they have room...

I have changed my mind. I thought he would go to the pies for sure but now I reckon the Demons will pick him up.

Do you know the answer to the question?

Is it not the case that LB has to be taken at asking price?

Was it not the case that they took someone else?

Is the upshot that the kitty would now be running low?

There's probably another thread, right...

[Mr Magic]

Can Pies pay that much?

Not sure they have room...

I have changed my mind. I thought he would go to the pies for sure but now I reckon the Demons will pick him up.

Do you know the answer to the question?

Is it not the case that LB has to be taken at asking price?

Was it not the case that they took someone else?

Is the upshot that the kitty would now be running low?

There's probably another thread, right...

I don't think they've lodged their payment schedule yet, so they can 'engineer' some room if need be.
The obvious way is to 'fiddle' with Jolly's contract so that his is light up front adn heavily back-ended when ball's would be light.
Jolly is also a client of Connors so if there was a dsicussion between Collingwood adn Jolly/Ball he would be acting for both of those parties.

[Moods]

I just looked at the numbers and realised you are about nine times the time waster I am.

That's REALLY saying something.

Make sure you give young Lukey a kiss for me when you tuck him in with his Tigers teddy tonight.

I post more. You waste peoples time. Dont know Bally but if i happen to see him i will ask if I can tuck him in. doesnt worry me in the slightest he has left as he was overpaid for his ability. What i find very funny is that so many seem upset that in their words a overated player is leaving. seems like those posters should actually be happy or are they really upset with themselves because previously they had said he was star player and had great morals.

Plugger I can't speak for other posters, but at least your question got me thinking why I'm annoyed at Luke Ball. I reckon it's because we DID pay him so much and got so little in return from him - mainly in the last 4 years of his career. Then when his over inflated contract runs out, he decides to cut and run, rather than stay and prove his worth.

I was thinking if Riewoldt had left the club at the end of next year and went to the Gold Coast how I would feel. In my opinion (as I said I can't speak for other posters, although I reckon most would feel the same) most would feel that Rooey had given us great service since being at the club, and despite being the highest paid player on our list, real value for money. Here's a bloke that has genuinely given his all for the saints, and then moved on when the time was right.

[remboy]

I just looked at the numbers and realised you are about nine times the time waster I am.

That's REALLY saying something.

Make sure you give young Lukey a kiss for me when you tuck him in with his Tigers teddy tonight.

I post more. You waste peoples time. Dont know Bally but if i happen to see him i will ask if I can tuck him in. doesnt worry me in the slightest he has left as he was overpaid for his ability. What i find very funny is that so many seem upset that in their words a overated player is leaving. seems like those posters should actually be happy or are they really upset with themselves because previously they had said he was star player and had great morals.

Plugger I can't speak for other posters, but at least your question got me thinking why I'm annoyed at Luke Ball. I reckon it's because we DID pay him so much and got so little in return from him - mainly in the last 4 years of his career. Then when his over inflated contract runs out, he decides to cut and run, rather than stay and prove his worth.

I was thinking if Riewoldt had left the club at the end of next year and went to the Gold Coast how I would feel. In my opinion (as I said I can't speak for other posters, although I reckon most would feel the same) most would feel that Rooey had given us great service since being at the club, and despite being the highest paid player on our list, real value for money. Here's a bloke that has genuinely given his all for the saints, and then moved on when the time was right.

I remember Kosi coming out of contract and saying that he owed the club because he'd had so many injuries. Shame Ball couldn't have felt the same way. You only get one chance to be a one club player.

[plugger66]

I just looked at the numbers and realised you are about nine times the time waster I am.

That's REALLY saying something.

Make sure you give young Lukey a kiss for me when you tuck him in with his Tigers teddy tonight.

I post more. You waste peoples time. Dont know Bally but if i happen to see him i will ask if I can tuck him in. doesnt worry me in the slightest he has left as he was overpaid for his ability. What i find very funny is that so many seem upset that in their words a overated player is leaving. seems like those posters should actually be happy or are they really upset with themselves because previously they had said he was star player and had great morals.

Plugger I can't speak for other posters, but at least your question got me thinking why I'm annoyed at Luke Ball. I reckon it's because we DID pay him so much and got so little in return from him - mainly in the last 4 years of his career. Then when his over inflated contract runs out, he decides to cut and run, rather than stay and prove his worth.

I was thinking if Riewoldt had left the club at the end of next year and went to the Gold Coast how I would feel. In my opinion (as I said I can't speak for other posters, although I reckon most would feel the same) most would feel that Rooey had given us great service since being at the club, and despite being the highest paid player on our list, real value for money. Here's a bloke that has genuinely given his all for the saints, and then moved on when the time was right.

Firstly there is only one party at fault when you pay someone to much money and that is the club. As for owing the club I sort of agree with that but i really do think, and I have said it many times, that Bally might actually think that he would struggle to get a game next year. he struggled this year and we have since recruited 2 mids and we have Steven and Armo coming on and no other mid is going to get worse next season due to age or anything like that.

[santazzi]

All Luke Ball threads should be nuked!

Could not agree more. He was once our favourite son. Why can't we just say " Luke, thanks for the good times...Good luck for the futue". Amen...........

[Spinner]

Melbourne would be doing a disservice to their club if they didn't pick up Ball.

They have to go full steam at him....Play at Melbourne, not don't play at all.

Its the draft, not a preference system.



But saying that, Melbourne seem like a weak club at the minute, and he'll probably go to Collingwood......

[joffaboy]

Melbourne would be doing a disservice to their club if they didn't pick up Ball.

They have to go full steam at him....Play at Melbourne, not don't play at all.

Its the draft, not a preference system.



But saying that, Melbourne seem like a weak club at the minute, and he'll probably go to Collingwood......

yes ATM Melbourne is weak, but Ball is only 25 and really, I saw Melbourne live three times last season and they weren't the rabble of the usual woodenspooner.

Melbourne could well be playing in finals by 2011.

or does Ball just wanted it all handed to him? You know, not work too hard and just waltz into the finals with a team like Collingwood who gets the dream draw every year.

The more I think of it the more I am convinced that Ball is suited to the Collingwood mentality.

[Saint Bev]

So Richmond have stated they don't want him. And Luke has said he won't go anywhere for less than $500,000, so it was about the money afterall. Can Collingwood fit him in their salary cap? Or will he get stuck with going to Melb which he also doesn't want to do.

Or will he fall on his face and end up with no one, as he is so picky!!

[SainterK]

I just looked at the numbers and realised you are about nine times the time waster I am.

That's REALLY saying something.

Make sure you give young Lukey a kiss for me when you tuck him in with his Tigers teddy tonight.

I post more. You waste peoples time. Dont know Bally but if i happen to see him i will ask if I can tuck him in. doesnt worry me in the slightest he has left as he was overpaid for his ability. What i find very funny is that so many seem upset that in their words a overated player is leaving. seems like those posters should actually be happy or are they really upset with themselves because previously they had said he was star player and had great morals.

Plugger I can't speak for other posters, but at least your question got me thinking why I'm annoyed at Luke Ball. I reckon it's because we DID pay him so much and got so little in return from him - mainly in the last 4 years of his career. Then when his over inflated contract runs out, he decides to cut and run, rather than stay and prove his worth.

I was thinking if Riewoldt had left the club at the end of next year and went to the Gold Coast how I would feel. In my opinion (as I said I can't speak for other posters, although I reckon most would feel the same) most would feel that Rooey had given us great service since being at the club, and despite being the highest paid player on our list, real value for money. Here's a bloke that has genuinely given his all for the saints, and then moved on when the time was right.

Firstly there is only one party at fault when you pay someone to much money and that is the club. As for owing the club I sort of agree with that but i really do think, and I have said it many times, that Bally might actually think that he would struggle to get a game next year. he struggled this year and we have since recruited 2 mids and we have Steven and Armo coming on and no other mid is going to get worse next season due to age or anything like that.

I don't agree that we would offer player a 3 year contract, who would struggle to get a game over that period of time.

I cannot see the club agreeing to an allocation of funds and resources with little or no return for a period of 3 years, not to mention showing sentiment which is very unlike Ross.

It came down to $ and a role he understood, but did not enjoy...

[plugger66]

I just looked at the numbers and realised you are about nine times the time waster I am.

That's REALLY saying something.

Make sure you give young Lukey a kiss for me when you tuck him in with his Tigers teddy tonight.

I post more. You waste peoples time. Dont know Bally but if i happen to see him i will ask if I can tuck him in. doesnt worry me in the slightest he has left as he was overpaid for his ability. What i find very funny is that so many seem upset that in their words a overated player is leaving. seems like those posters should actually be happy or are they really upset with themselves because previously they had said he was star player and had great morals.

Plugger I can't speak for other posters, but at least your question got me thinking why I'm annoyed at Luke Ball. I reckon it's because we DID pay him so much and got so little in return from him - mainly in the last 4 years of his career. Then when his over inflated contract runs out, he decides to cut and run, rather than stay and prove his worth.

I was thinking if Riewoldt had left the club at the end of next year and went to the Gold Coast how I would feel. In my opinion (as I said I can't speak for other posters, although I reckon most would feel the same) most would feel that Rooey had given us great service since being at the club, and despite being the highest paid player on our list, real value for money. Here's a bloke that has genuinely given his all for the saints, and then moved on when the time was right.

Firstly there is only one party at fault when you pay someone to much money and that is the club. As for owing the club I sort of agree with that but i really do think, and I have said it many times, that Bally might actually think that he would struggle to get a game next year. he struggled this year and we have since recruited 2 mids and we have Steven and Armo coming on and no other mid is going to get worse next season due to age or anything like that.

I don't agree that we would offer player a 3 year contract, who would struggle to get a game over that period of time.

I cannot see the club agreeing to an allocation of funds and resources with little or no return for a period of 3 years, not to mention showing sentiment which is very unlike Ross.

It came down to $ and a role he understood, but did not enjoy...

Are you sure. Leigh Fisher, Brad Howard and Mini 2 years ago come to mind to say that arguement may not be right.

[SainterK]

I just looked at the numbers and realised you are about nine times the time waster I am.

That's REALLY saying something.

Make sure you give young Lukey a kiss for me when you tuck him in with his Tigers teddy tonight.

I post more. You waste peoples time. Dont know Bally but if i happen to see him i will ask if I can tuck him in. doesnt worry me in the slightest he has left as he was overpaid for his ability. What i find very funny is that so many seem upset that in their words a overated player is leaving. seems like those posters should actually be happy or are they really upset with themselves because previously they had said he was star player and had great morals.

Plugger I can't speak for other posters, but at least your question got me thinking why I'm annoyed at Luke Ball. I reckon it's because we DID pay him so much and got so little in return from him - mainly in the last 4 years of his career. Then when his over inflated contract runs out, he decides to cut and run, rather than stay and prove his worth.

I was thinking if Riewoldt had left the club at the end of next year and went to the Gold Coast how I would feel. In my opinion (as I said I can't speak for other posters, although I reckon most would feel the same) most would feel that Rooey had given us great service since being at the club, and despite being the highest paid player on our list, real value for money. Here's a bloke that has genuinely given his all for the saints, and then moved on when the time was right.

Firstly there is only one party at fault when you pay someone to much money and that is the club. As for owing the club I sort of agree with that but i really do think, and I have said it many times, that Bally might actually think that he would struggle to get a game next year. he struggled this year and we have since recruited 2 mids and we have Steven and Armo coming on and no other mid is going to get worse next season due to age or anything like that.

I don't agree that we would offer player a 3 year contract, who would struggle to get a game over that period of time.

I cannot see the club agreeing to an allocation of funds and resources with little or no return for a period of 3 years, not to mention showing sentiment which is very unlike Ross.

It came down to $ and a role he understood, but did not enjoy...

Are you sure. Leigh Fisher, Brad Howard and Mini 2 years ago come to mind to say that arguement may not be right.

Is the money and age comparable though, Mini would have only been 19 at the time and hardly commanding alot of money...

Howard is a rookie, younger again, so once again not comparable in price and resources?

I think Goose would be a better example of how the club would approach Luke Ball if they thought he was not going to play much in the seniors?

[Moods]

I just looked at the numbers and realised you are about nine times the time waster I am.

That's REALLY saying something.

Make sure you give young Lukey a kiss for me when you tuck him in with his Tigers teddy tonight.

I post more. You waste peoples time. Dont know Bally but if i happen to see him i will ask if I can tuck him in. doesnt worry me in the slightest he has left as he was overpaid for his ability. What i find very funny is that so many seem upset that in their words a overated player is leaving. seems like those posters should actually be happy or are they really upset with themselves because previously they had said he was star player and had great morals.

Plugger I can't speak for other posters, but at least your question got me thinking why I'm annoyed at Luke Ball. I reckon it's because we DID pay him so much and got so little in return from him - mainly in the last 4 years of his career. Then when his over inflated contract runs out, he decides to cut and run, rather than stay and prove his worth.

I was thinking if Riewoldt had left the club at the end of next year and went to the Gold Coast how I would feel. In my opinion (as I said I can't speak for other posters, although I reckon most would feel the same) most would feel that Rooey had given us great service since being at the club, and despite being the highest paid player on our list, real value for money. Here's a bloke that has genuinely given his all for the saints, and then moved on when the time was right.

Firstly there is only one party at fault when you pay someone to much money and that is the club. As for owing the club I sort of agree with that but i really do think, and I have said it many times, that Bally might actually think that he would struggle to get a game next year. he struggled this year and we have since recruited 2 mids and we have Steven and Armo coming on and no other mid is going to get worse next season due to age or anything like that.

I don't necessarily agree that there is only one party at fault when it comes to contract negotiations. Ball would have asked for this money - ANY club would have paid him this money at this point in his career - Ball knew that. The club would have been crucified if he had been let go when he was 21 years old. REminds me of Darren Gasper at Richmond. Every time his contract was up it always seemed to be a stalemate with Gasper exclaiming that he loved the club, would do anything for the club, wanted to stay at the club, but insisted on being in the top 3 highest paid players at the club. Was a serviceable defender at best who had one maybe two great years which he hung his hat on forever.

I agree with you that Ball believed that he may struggle to get a game next year. I can see this angle from his point of view. With Ball maximising his earning potential at every turn though, I certainly don't begrudge those posters who feel like teeing off at him on here.

I still remember a young Luke Ball on TFS telling Eddie he would be very disappointed in Dal if he chose to leave for higher money for the bombers back in 2005. I know circumstances are slightly different here re Ball's game time, but if money isn't oneof the main issues here, why has he put $500k on his head.

[HXT]

Spoke to a friend who is in contact with a current board member, that it was always and only amount the money. Also Luke absolutely does not want to go interstate, so it will be interesting with Voss's statement today in The Age...