Ball to nominate for draft today according to The Age

[SainterK]

So can someone tell me...

Why did he front the press in the weeks leading up to the GF saying this year was the kick up the bum he needed and have us believe he was going to work harder?

Why did he face the media immediately after the loss, talking on behalf of players he did not want to play with anymore?

Why did he speak at the fan day the day after the GF?

I didn't want his empty words, I'd rather silence

[IluvHarvey]

Who cares why he left? The fact is that he would rather play somewhere else. So if people are upset and calling him names they are entitled to. He decoded to go he was not pushed this was his choice. So call him money hungry, a traitor, dumb or whatever if you like. He has chosen to walk away from the club, his team mates and supporters who stuck by him. So if you want to stick by him still good on you, but please don't have a go at others who are extremely dissapointed with the decision HE made.

Didnt X decide to leave as well?

Correct, but was X told that he was a vital member of the team and in our best 22?

Probably not but was Bally told that to his face.

According to the Age article today he was told that by Ross Lyon a few weeks ago. (I understand that you can believe what you like when reading newspapers)

[Milan Faletic]

On the topic of Luke Ball (as per other thread):

We don't know all the facts but it is clear that Luke Ball wanted to leave the Saints right from the start. It is clear that the Saints were going to protect their list right from the start.

My personal opinion is that while I am disappointed that they could not come to a resolution, I am not really disappointed that he has gone. We need to have players committed to the cause and within our own list, I believe there are players that will fill his role with honour, commitment and ability.

Good luck, Luke, but IMHO you and/or your management and/or your family have made a big mistake and you may be watching your old club running aroung the G next year with a cup in their hands. Maybe you can celebrate your 3 votes in Round 22 while you watch the Finals Series on TV. Is that what you wanted?

[desertsaint]

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So we know it is money do we.

Wasn't it reported that he put a $500k price tag on his head in the Age today?

Seems to conflict with excuse No.2 (or was it excuse No.3) of the trade week when Ball was going but it had nothing to do with money.

Oh well piss off then Luke, I am more concrened with St.Kilda players than some GOP who plays with some opposition team.

Shows true character. Only player i can think off that has trashed the Saints in public worse than Ball is Spida Everitt.

perhaps the price tag (along with snubbing melbourne) is to ensure he
gets taken by the pies.
ever heard the parable of the wise men and the elephant?

[SainterK]

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So we know it is money do we.

Wasn't it reported that he put a $500k price tag on his head in the Age today?

Seems to conflict with excuse No.2 (or was it excuse No.3) of the trade week when Ball was going but it had nothing to do with money.

Oh well piss off then Luke, I am more concrened with St.Kilda players than some GOP who plays with some opposition team.

Shows true character. Only player i can think off that has trashed the Saints in public worse than Ball is Spida Everitt.

perhaps the price tag (along with snubbing melbourne) is to ensure he
gets taken by the pies.
ever heard the parable of the wise men and the elephant?

Correct me if I am wrong, but haven't other teams like North, Essendon and Brisbane have picks before Collingwood?

You won't convince me that a snubbing will put off the likes of a Michael Voss, thick skinned that one!

[plugger66]

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So we know it is money do we.

Wasn't it reported that he put a $500k price tag on his head in the Age today?

Seems to conflict with excuse No.2 (or was it excuse No.3) of the trade week when Ball was going but it had nothing to do with money.

Oh well piss off then Luke, I am more concrened with St.Kilda players than some GOP who plays with some opposition team.

Shows true character. Only player i can think off that has trashed the Saints in public worse than Ball is Spida Everitt.

perhaps the price tag (along with snubbing melbourne) is to ensure he
gets taken by the pies.
ever heard the parable of the wise men and the elephant?

Correct me if I am wrong, but haven't other teams like North, Essendon and Brisbane have picks before Collingwood?

You won't convince me that a snubbing will put off the likes of a Michael Voss, thick skinned that one!

But the salary cap might.

[Spinner]

You would hope Bailey takes the opinion of.... "Luke can play football for Melbourne, or not at all"....and take him with pick 18 (if still available)

Clearly, If Luke nominates for the National its an attempt to go elsewhere than Melbourne.

Players entering the draft do not and should not have a say where they go. Its a draft.

Hope Melbourne have or find the character to take this stance.

[st.byron]

Who cares why he left? The fact is that he would rather play somewhere else. So if people are upset and calling him names they are entitled to. He decoded to go he was not pushed this was his choice. So call him money hungry, a traitor, dumb or whatever if you like. He has chosen to walk away from the club, his team mates and supporters who stuck by him. So if you want to stick by him still good on you, but please don't have a go at others who are extremely dissapointed with the decision HE made.

Exactly.

[mals saints]

Many people have many opinions. Noe of you know the real facts and neither do I
The facts i do knoew are
1- the club said they wanted him but at told him he was worth less than what he was previously getting.
2- he said he wanted out and the club said they were not getting compensated enough. So they took nothing.
3- The club only plyed him for less than half a game he was starring in"(the GF) so obviously did not think too highly of him, which although we will never know I feel could have made a difference
4- People say he owes the club. We are told collingwood was going to trade and give pick 25 for him and that st kilda was happy with pick 22 (to on trade) . Those 3 picks mean we got nothing.
5- He owes the club. Bull Ask moose Mcguire if he thinks he should have taken the monies he was offered elsewhere previously instead of being loyal to the saints. Facts are these players are wanted when it suits the club but not when it doesnt. So they owe the club nothing.
Ask bradshaw about loyalty fro ma club.
Get series people. This is a business and your time in AFL football can be very short so why would you not look at offers and take this into account.
Which one of you would not move from your line of work for an extra 200 k or more per year

[st.byron]

Good riddance you little prick. What a puffed up little princess he turned out to be. No thanks for the last 8 years from me. F*** off and may you not succeed wherever you end up.

Wow what a tough hombre you are - yep he certainly played like a princess didn't he

Nope. He didn't. But his behaviour since GF day has been that of someone with an overinflated opinion of his own value. He's shown us zero loyalty and he gets zero loyalty from me in return. Not that he'd give a stuff but that's how I feel about it.

[joffaboy]

The facts i do knoew are

1- the club said they wanted him but at told him he was worth less than what he was previously getting.[/quote]

yes that is a fact

2- he said he wanted out and the club said they were not getting compensated enough. So they took nothing.

in 20/20 hindsight yes.

3- The club only plyed him for less than half a game he was starring in"(the GF) so obviously did not think too highly of him, which although we will never know I feel could have made a difference

that is only opinions. 1 that he was "starring" - 2 that the club didn't think too highly of him (you reckon you know the facts, how was LB's fitness in the second half. Also if the club didn't think too highly of him - why start him in the middle on GF day? Why start him in a GF at all???)

You "feel" he could have made a difference? May be a fact that you feel it - but you have no idea that he would have. I "feel" that if we had have kicked straight we would have won - so what?

4- People say he owes the club. We are told collingwood was going to trade and give pick 25 for him and that st kilda was happy with pick 22 (to on trade) . Those 3 picks mean we got nothing.

Stiff. Collingwood wouldn't trade equitably and fairly. Would rather get nothing than trade with those bunch of filth fairies.

5- He owes the club. Bull Ask moose Mcguire if he thinks he should have taken the monies he was offered elsewhere previously instead of being loyal to the saints. Facts are these players are wanted when it suits the club but not when it doesnt. So they owe the club nothing.

More "facts". And us Saints supporters know him as GOOSE Maguire, not Moose McGuire as in your President.

Ask bradshaw about loyalty fro ma club.

More facts????

Get series people. This is a business and your time in AFL football can be very short so why would you not look at offers and take this into account.
Which one of you would not move from your line of work for an extra 200 k or more per year

More facts? Maybe when your manager has used about five excuses in five days for leaving - one of them being that it WASN't for Money.

Back to your Collingwood fansite - troll

[S.A Saint]

Many people have many opinions. Noe of you know the real facts and neither do I
The facts i do knoew are
1- the club said they wanted him but at told him he was worth less than what he was previously getting.
2- he said he wanted out and the club said they were not getting compensated enough. So they took nothing.
3- The club only plyed him for less than half a game he was starring in"(the GF) so obviously did not think too highly of him, which although we will never know I feel could have made a difference
4- People say he owes the club. We are told collingwood was going to trade and give pick 25 for him and that st kilda was happy with pick 22 (to on trade) . Those 3 picks mean we got nothing.
5- He owes the club. Bull Ask moose Mcguire if he thinks he should have taken the monies he was offered elsewhere previously instead of being loyal to the saints. Facts are these players are wanted when it suits the club but not when it doesnt. So they owe the club nothing.
Ask bradshaw about loyalty fro ma club.
Get series people. This is a business and your time in AFL football can be very short so why would you not look at offers and take this into account.
Which one of you would not move from your line of work for an extra 200 k or more per year

in response to your points
1.which is true, he WAS not worth the ridiculous amount he was getting paid for his performance.
2. which is fair enough, the clubed wanted to do whats best for it not for luke. the club is always bigger than the individual and thats that..
3.he was getting around 50% game time throughout the whole year...just because he was playing better this game means squat all...plus we have the best fitness people around...you do the maths
4.the club owes luke nothing...and luke owes the club nothing...move on
5.i don't think it was all about the money. it was about how much game time he was getting which he wasn't happy about..and if he could get a better deal then by all means go ahead...its just the way he handled it was poor by only nominating one club and putting us in a s*** position to bargain for...


all in all good luck and good bye...however he wont be getting any cheers or claps for me...

[saintsRrising]

There is only one set of facts that matter:

Ball is no longer a Saint. He is an aint.

He has chosen to be that way.



Logic does not matter....or play a role. You do not become a football fan by being 100% logical.

It is a matter of the heart.

All that is relevant now is that Ball is now part of the opposition.

Does not matter what he did this year or last...in 2010 he is the opposition.

[mals saints]

Joffaboy. With a name like that maybe your are the pres of collingwood cheer squad. Not a saint royalty.
We all are allowed an opinion but you have shown your class.
You were quiock to throw s*** about a typing error but didnt answer my point about moose( sorry Goose) and how he should feel about being loyal to the club
Some people use these things for self gratification and I agree that he is now an opposition player but I has been handled poorly and I believe people shouldne bladme LB>
Was it not RL who said grand final night that if you dont want to do the hard yards get out.
Well ball asked to get out and now people are prepared to give him s*** . I agree when you follow a team you do not look rationally. This is certainly happening here but smoe open that one eye a little more than others

[fingers]

I have it on good authority that Luke's time in the GF was by design - exactly as planned.

[st.byron]

There is only one set of facts that matter:

Ball is no longer a Saint. He is an aint.

He has chosen to be that way.



Logic does not matter....or play a role. You do not become a football fan by being 100% logical.

It is a matter of the heart.

All that is relevant now is that Ball is now part of the opposition.

Does not matter what he did this year or last...in 2010 he is the opposition.

Spot on sRr. There are opposition players that I respect and admire and there are players that I don't. He'll be in the latter camp. F8ck him.

[fingers]

Spot on sRr. There are opposition players that I respect and admire and there are players that I don't. He'll be in the latter camp. F8ck him.

What does Feightck mean?

[Spinner]

There is only one set of facts that matter:

Ball is no longer a Saint. He is an aint.

He has chosen to be that way.



Logic does not matter....or play a role. You do not become a football fan by being 100% logical.

It is a matter of the heart.

All that is relevant now is that Ball is now part of the opposition.

Does not matter what he did this year or last...in 2010 he is the opposition.

Spot on sRr. There are opposition players that I respect and admire and there are players that I don't. He'll be in the latter camp. F8ck him.

Yep.

[saint64]

Courageous player of limited ability who gave his all for the Saints for 8 years. Would have been good to hang on to him, but he doesn't want to stay - so he can flock off.

[Devilhead]

No great loss - he has been on the fringe for the last few years and his impact has been minimal

Losing him will only make way for a younger body and will only improve our side

Thanks Luke for your time and I hope you find the mediocrity you crave at a club willing to pay you over the odds

[desertsaint]

hell hath no fury like a saint scorned!

[iwantmeseats]

Id like to say thanks luke, but also Piss off at the same time. Very disappointing attitude from you. Mercinaries are very very low.

[Winmarvellous]

Geez I hope we win the flag next year now. And Luke wins the spoon with Melbourne. I'd laugh my ass off. He'd probably shed a tear again on GF day.

[SainterK]

Remember after the GF loss, when he had been crying and did his press conference....

When they asked him about our fine captain, his words were along the lines of "To be honest, I couldn't look him in the eye"

Well, now I know why Luke

[PJ]

Hope you do well at your new club Bally but the club is bigger than any player. It sounds like there will be a few booing you now and it seems that you were never a better player or person than Judd or Hodge even though I could swear I read you were 6 months ago. Luckily a few on here seem to know exactly what happened between you and the club and also seem to know what you were offerred money wise or is it just the case that when it suits a discussion we just beleive what is written in the paper.

All the best Bally and like all Saints players that leave our club I hope you do really well just not against us.

Wow does Luke really read this?