Ball to nominate for draft today according to The Age

[chook23]

Good bye and good luck to Luke Ball, once he had lost the passion to play with the Saints, it really was time to go.

The club needs to be commended on how they handled this situation. Not rolling over to Collingwood's typical take it or leave it stance was correct, as it would have given a potential top4 club an advantage for no real recompense.

So the Saints end up with nothing in exchange. What has been lost? A player who we all knew had great potential. A player who has been limited in his ability through a cruel injury. A player who lost his passion for his club (and by extension his team mates). A player who played about 50% of game time. Luke the person may be missed but the current player can definitely be replaced.

The saddest part for Luke is that he will more than likely end up playing with Melbourne. They can easily match any deal Collingwood puts on the table.

If he goes to the pies and my guess is he will get there than we have lost out. If he doesnt get there and doesnt end up in a top 6 side we have not lost out.

You guesses are usually spot on, so we have lost out then

why??

[maverick]

Good bye and good luck to Luke Ball, once he had lost the passion to play with the Saints, it really was time to go.

The club needs to be commended on how they handled this situation. Not rolling over to Collingwood's typical take it or leave it stance was correct, as it would have given a potential top4 club an advantage for no real recompense.

So the Saints end up with nothing in exchange. What has been lost? A player who we all knew had great potential. A player who has been limited in his ability through a cruel injury. A player who lost his passion for his club (and by extension his team mates). A player who played about 50% of game time. Luke the person may be missed but the current player can definitely be replaced.

The saddest part for Luke is that he will more than likely end up playing with Melbourne. They can easily match any deal Collingwood puts on the table.

If he goes to the pies and my guess is he will get there than we have lost out. If he doesnt get there and doesnt end up in a top 6 side we have not lost out.

You guesses are usually spot on, so we have lost out then

why??

cos he says so

[SainterK]

I don't want him to go to Collingwood...

I think he is going there because he believe that he can contribute to a side that can challenge for a flag. It's not so much that I am convinced he can improve their side enough to do so, but I don't like that he wants to try

Would like to hear him thank the club, the fans, for their support....he is afterall, good at saying the right things even when he doesn't mean them

[plugger66]

Good bye and good luck to Luke Ball, once he had lost the passion to play with the Saints, it really was time to go.

The club needs to be commended on how they handled this situation. Not rolling over to Collingwood's typical take it or leave it stance was correct, as it would have given a potential top4 club an advantage for no real recompense.

So the Saints end up with nothing in exchange. What has been lost? A player who we all knew had great potential. A player who has been limited in his ability through a cruel injury. A player who lost his passion for his club (and by extension his team mates). A player who played about 50% of game time. Luke the person may be missed but the current player can definitely be replaced.

The saddest part for Luke is that he will more than likely end up playing with Melbourne. They can easily match any deal Collingwood puts on the table.

If he goes to the pies and my guess is he will get there than we have lost out. If he doesnt get there and doesnt end up in a top 6 side we have not lost out.

You guesses are usually spot on, so we have lost out then

why??

cos he says so

You are right again.

[Spinner]

Good riddance you little prick. What a puffed up little princess he turned out to be. No thanks for the last 8 years from me. F*** off and may you not succeed wherever you end up.

Now thats a sensible post as you obviously have all the facts. We knew he wanted to leave and we chose not to let him go. i dont think that now he is leaving it is any surprise at all.

Yep, we knew there was a chance he would still go to collingwood for nothing and in hindsight we would be better off with the below par trade the pies were offering....

....Hindsight is a wonderful thing - For the record, I still would not have taken that trade and am in agreement with the club.

Good luck to the next bloke that wants to leave.

[st.byron]

Good riddance you little prick. What a puffed up little princess he turned out to be. No thanks for the last 8 years from me. F*** off and may you not succeed wherever you end up.

Now thats a sensible post as you obviously have all the facts. We knew he wanted to leave and we chose not to let him go. i dont think that now he is leaving it is any surprise at all.

Not intended to be sensible. I'm obviously pissed off with him.
Joffa Burns has got it spot on when he says,

".......classic case of Luke confusing his ability with his performance.
Couldn’t kick over a jam tin and couldn’t run out of sight on a dark night. Plenty of ticker and hard work but there is more required in today’s game.
Over paid and underperformed for the last two years and now he runs and chases the money when the remuneration will finally be commensurate with performance."

Exactly right. He can piss off.

[plugger66]

Good riddance you little prick. What a puffed up little princess he turned out to be. No thanks for the last 8 years from me. F*** off and may you not succeed wherever you end up.

Now thats a sensible post as you obviously have all the facts. We knew he wanted to leave and we chose not to let him go. i dont think that now he is leaving it is any surprise at all.

Not intended to be sensible. I'm obviously pissed off with him.
Joffa Burns has got it spot on when he says,

".......classic case of Luke confusing his ability with his performance.
Couldn’t kick over a jam tin and couldn’t run out of sight on a dark night. Plenty of ticker and hard work but there is more required in today’s game.
Over paid and underperformed for the last two years and now he runs and chases the money when the remuneration will finally be commensurate with performance."

Exactly right. He can piss off.

So we know it is money do we. If it is money he would just go to Melbourne as they have plenty on their salary cap. I just get pissed off how Bally suddenly is the worst player of all time. This season i said he is an average overpaid footballer which he was and got howled down by the same people who today rate him a worse footballer than david Windbanks.

[chook23]

Good riddance you little prick. What a puffed up little princess he turned out to be. No thanks for the last 8 years from me. F*** off and may you not succeed wherever you end up.

Now thats a sensible post as you obviously have all the facts. We knew he wanted to leave and we chose not to let him go. i dont think that now he is leaving it is any surprise at all.

Not intended to be sensible. I'm obviously pissed off with him.
Joffa Burns has got it spot on when he says,

".......classic case of Luke confusing his ability with his performance.
Couldn’t kick over a jam tin and couldn’t run out of sight on a dark night. Plenty of ticker and hard work but there is more required in today’s game.
Over paid and underperformed for the last two years and now he runs and chases the money when the remuneration will finally be commensurate with performance."

Exactly right. He can piss off.

So we know it is money do we. If it is money he would just go to Melbourne as they have plenty on their salary cap. I just get pissed off how Bally suddenly is the worst player of all time. This season i said he is an average overpaid footballer which he was and got howled down by the same people who today rate him a worse footballer than david Windbanks.

Your the one making that statement...........



who actually said it

[SainterK]

Good riddance you little prick. What a puffed up little princess he turned out to be. No thanks for the last 8 years from me. F*** off and may you not succeed wherever you end up.

Now thats a sensible post as you obviously have all the facts. We knew he wanted to leave and we chose not to let him go. i dont think that now he is leaving it is any surprise at all.

Not intended to be sensible. I'm obviously pissed off with him.
Joffa Burns has got it spot on when he says,

".......classic case of Luke confusing his ability with his performance.
Couldn’t kick over a jam tin and couldn’t run out of sight on a dark night. Plenty of ticker and hard work but there is more required in today’s game.
Over paid and underperformed for the last two years and now he runs and chases the money when the remuneration will finally be commensurate with performance."

Exactly right. He can piss off.

So we know it is money do we. If it is money he would just go to Melbourne as they have plenty on their salary cap. I just get pissed off how Bally suddenly is the worst player of all time. This season i said he is an average overpaid footballer which he was and got howled down by the same people who today rate him a worse footballer than david Windbanks.

He is not wanting to go to Melbourne, as it's probably about money coupled together with a chance at a premiership...how does this make his decision any better as far as the club is concerned?

[older saint]

As the coach said in not so many words after the grand final "if you are not willing to get on board then good ridence".

Ball obviously was not willing to get on board with the TEAM requirements and what the needed to do for the TEAM to be better. No worries good luck going forward, hopefully next September sitting in the stand he will realise what a mistake he has made missing out on a premiership medal.

Enjoy Melbourne being a big fish in a small pond. By nominating for the Pre seasondraft sounds like a deal has been done already as would otherwise nominate for the National draft. Even if he does end up at Collingwood glad no trade was done as would rather lose him for nothing than clog up the salary cap with a player who is not good enough.

[plugger66]

Good riddance you little prick. What a puffed up little princess he turned out to be. No thanks for the last 8 years from me. F*** off and may you not succeed wherever you end up.

Now thats a sensible post as you obviously have all the facts. We knew he wanted to leave and we chose not to let him go. i dont think that now he is leaving it is any surprise at all.

Not intended to be sensible. I'm obviously pissed off with him.
Joffa Burns has got it spot on when he says,

".......classic case of Luke confusing his ability with his performance.
Couldn’t kick over a jam tin and couldn’t run out of sight on a dark night. Plenty of ticker and hard work but there is more required in today’s game.
Over paid and underperformed for the last two years and now he runs and chases the money when the remuneration will finally be commensurate with performance."

Exactly right. He can piss off.

So we know it is money do we. If it is money he would just go to Melbourne as they have plenty on their salary cap. I just get pissed off how Bally suddenly is the worst player of all time. This season i said he is an average overpaid footballer which he was and got howled down by the same people who today rate him a worse footballer than david Windbanks.

Your the one making that statement...........



who actually said it

It called a little bit of licence with words but dont kid yourself most have changed their minds about his form from 8 weeks ago. Just look up some posts from around GF time.

[IluvHarvey]

Who cares why he left? The fact is that he would rather play somewhere else. So if people are upset and calling him names they are entitled to. He decoded to go he was not pushed this was his choice. So call him money hungry, a traitor, dumb or whatever if you like. He has chosen to walk away from the club, his team mates and supporters who stuck by him. So if you want to stick by him still good on you, but please don't have a go at others who are extremely dissapointed with the decision HE made.

[plugger66]

Who cares why he left? The fact is that he would rather play somewhere else. So if people are upset and calling him names they are entitled to. He decoded to go he was not pushed this was his choice. So call him money hungry, a traitor, dumb or whatever if you like. He has chosen to walk away from the club, his team mates and supporters who stuck by him. So if you want to stick by him still good on you, but please don't have a go at others who are extremely dissapointed with the decision HE made.

Didnt X decide to leave as well?

[IluvHarvey]

Who cares why he left? The fact is that he would rather play somewhere else. So if people are upset and calling him names they are entitled to. He decoded to go he was not pushed this was his choice. So call him money hungry, a traitor, dumb or whatever if you like. He has chosen to walk away from the club, his team mates and supporters who stuck by him. So if you want to stick by him still good on you, but please don't have a go at others who are extremely dissapointed with the decision HE made.

Didnt X decide to leave as well?

Correct, but was X told that he was a vital member of the team and in our best 22?

[plugger66]

Who cares why he left? The fact is that he would rather play somewhere else. So if people are upset and calling him names they are entitled to. He decoded to go he was not pushed this was his choice. So call him money hungry, a traitor, dumb or whatever if you like. He has chosen to walk away from the club, his team mates and supporters who stuck by him. So if you want to stick by him still good on you, but please don't have a go at others who are extremely dissapointed with the decision HE made.

Didnt X decide to leave as well?

Correct, but was X told that he was a vital member of the team and in our best 22?

Probably not but was Bally told that to his face.

[SainterK]

Who cares why he left? The fact is that he would rather play somewhere else. So if people are upset and calling him names they are entitled to. He decoded to go he was not pushed this was his choice. So call him money hungry, a traitor, dumb or whatever if you like. He has chosen to walk away from the club, his team mates and supporters who stuck by him. So if you want to stick by him still good on you, but please don't have a go at others who are extremely dissapointed with the decision HE made.

Didnt X decide to leave as well?

Correct, but was X told that he was a vital member of the team and in our best 22?

P66 brings up a perfect example in X, of how to leave the club in a professional manner. No press about how relationships with the club are "untenable" or the like, the desire to put together a farewell message for his fans, and leaving on good terms with the club.

[samoht]

Collingwood has lost some run and pace with Leon Davis leaving - I can't see how Ball will replace that ? - they'll just lose some more run.

[saintlee]

Collingwood has lost some run and pace with Leon Davis leaving - I can't see how Ball will replace that ? - they'll just lose some more run.

When did Leon Davis leave the magpies?? I don't care much for collingwood news, but I thought I would have noticed this one...

[BAM! (shhhh)]

Who cares why he left? The fact is that he would rather play somewhere else. So if people are upset and calling him names they are entitled to. He decoded to go he was not pushed this was his choice. So call him money hungry, a traitor, dumb or whatever if you like. He has chosen to walk away from the club, his team mates and supporters who stuck by him. So if you want to stick by him still good on you, but please don't have a go at others who are extremely dissapointed with the decision HE made.

"The fact is" that footy is Luke Ball's job and career. While we the fans can - and will - be emotive over the subject, the literal fact of the matter is that he owes us exactly zero. Such criteria doesn't align, so when throwing around phrases like "the fact is" we should recall that while the downside of our adulation is our hatred, "the fact is" both are things we ourselves contribute. They're not a basis for a decision such as the one Ball made, and our emotional attachment is our responsibility, not his.

Those choosing to indulge their invective do so for themselves, not really for anything to do with Luke Ball.

That said, Bally's decline from being a favorite of mine to just another footy player is now complete. While I'm not likely to boo myself, I imagine he'll have to put up with quite a racket any time he touches the ball against the Saints. Does a small part of me look forward to his first clanger against us? Yes it does...

[samoht]

Collingwood has lost some run and pace with Leon Davis leaving - I can't see how Ball will replace that ? - they'll just lose some more run.

When did Leon Davis leave the magpies?? I don't care much for collingwood news, but I thought I would have noticed this one...

i thought he left for some reason (I don't go out of my way to follow the pies news either) - maybe it was only talk of him leaving ?

[desertsaint]

Luke may well have legitimate reasons for leaving however he, along with Connors, has chosen not to make these known at this point in time. Fair enough, that’s his choice to make. And in the absence of an official explanation I will exercise my right to say Good luck and goodbye and thanks for years of putting your body on the line.

edited slightly to reflect my thoughts.

[fingers]

The thing that I don't get is that Luke doesn't seem to realise that the things that are stopping him from becoming truly elite will not be fixed by going to another club. They will only be fixed through his own hard work. And he could do that anywhere.

Anyway good luck Luke - just not against us

[Mr Magic]

The thing that I don't get is that Luke doesn't seem to realise that the things that are stopping him from becoming truly elite will not be fixed by going to another club. They will only be fixed through his own hard work. And he could do that anywhere.

Anyway good luck Luke - just not against us

MAybe he thinks they cannot be fixed adn he is looking for somewhere else to play that more suits his physical abilities?
Oh and a bigger paycheque than what st Kilda is apparently capable/prepared to offer.

[MCG-Unit]

Good riddance you little prick. What a puffed up little princess he turned out to be. No thanks for the last 8 years from me. F*** off and may you not succeed wherever you end up.

Wow what a tough hombre you are - yep he certainly played like a princess didn't he

[joffaboy]

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So we know it is money do we.

Wasn't it reported that he put a $500k price tag on his head in the Age today?

Seems to conflict with excuse No.2 (or was it excuse No.3) of the trade week when Ball was going but it had nothing to do with money.

Oh well piss off then Luke, I am more concrened with St.Kilda players than some GOP who plays with some opposition team.

Shows true character. Only player i can think off that has trashed the Saints in public worse than Ball is Spida Everitt.