Brisbane Lions look to Luke Ball after Daniel Bradshaw bails

Moccha · Post: # 849955Post **Moccha** » Sat 17 Oct 2009 12:21am

And the saga continues..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/b ... 5787732512

Geez he must be a player!

The OtherThommo · Sat 17 Oct 2009 1:29am

Bally used to be Joel Selwood - head down, ass up. The game at Skilled a few years, when he had 14 odd tackles (Garry Lyon fair dinkum had it out of his trousers on 9 that day), 35 touches and kicked 3, was his peak.

Now what is he? A bloke who gets hard ball for bursts.

The reason he didn't get more ground time was his TANK. He could not run out exchanges, and took ages to recover when taken off.

The fellas in charge of this football club do NOT play favourites.

Luke Ball said himself late in the year he knew what the problem was - him.

Grant Thomas stuffed him (hittin' his tit in Sydney when the kid was almost killed - what was that?).

Seems to me Bally is done in the skull. Bright kid, no judgement. Maybe, if he had a talk to Wally Lovett's little brother, Andrew, and discussed how you come to a footy club on the edge for shitloads less than you could get elsewhere, because you want to succeed, and that's what's important, we'd all be better off.

Alternatively, maybe Bally's first 2 years of part time Law Studies have turned him into a preeminent legal wanker, of the type we all know and love (NOT).

Summary - he either comes back to us, humbly, or his career is over. Funny, eh?

Schillaci · Post: # 849983Post **Schillaci** » Sat 17 Oct 2009 7:32am

I'm amazed at the turnover of Brisbane's list.

Outs: Bradshaw, Dalziel (WCE), MacDonald, Henderson (Carl), Notting (retired), Hooper, Roe, Clouston, King, Tyler, Harding + 5 rookies...

IMO they're making up the numbers next year. Will be lucky to make finals. Even with Fev/ Brown

plugger66 · Post: # 849984Post **plugger66** » Sat 17 Oct 2009 7:41am

Schillaci wrote:I'm amazed at the turnover of Brisbane's list.

Outs: Bradshaw, Dalziel (WCE), MacDonald, Henderson (Carl), Notting (retired), Hooper, Roe, Clouston, King, Tyler, Harding + 5 rookies...

IMO they're making up the numbers next year. Will be lucky to make finals. Even with Fev/ Brown

Why is that. They have 4 months to get them to play as a team and their list is much better than this year.

Schillaci · Post: # 849986Post **Schillaci** » Sat 17 Oct 2009 7:56am

plugger66 wrote:
Schillaci wrote:I'm amazed at the turnover of Brisbane's list.

Outs: Bradshaw, Dalziel (WCE), MacDonald, Henderson (Carl), Notting (retired), Hooper, Roe, Clouston, King, Tyler, Harding + 5 rookies...

IMO they're making up the numbers next year. Will be lucky to make finals. Even with Fev/ Brown
Why is that. They have 4 months to get them to play as a team and their list is much better than this year.

Just a feeling. We're talking about a huge proportion of their list as being new. Is 4 months enough?

I put them behind Saints, Cats, Dogs, Crows and Pies.
Fighting with Dons, Hawks, Port... for the lower places in the 8.
I realize they've got experience in...Staker, Buchanan, X, Raines...headlined by Fev.

It's going to be interesting.

Lennon · Post: # 850010Post **Lennon** » Sat 17 Oct 2009 9:54am

The OtherThommo wrote: Maybe, if he had a talk to Wally Lovett's little brother, Andrew, and discussed how you come to a footy club on the edge for shitloads less than you could get elsewhere, because you want to succeed, and that's what's important, we'd all be better off.

You can't be serious?

Andrew Lovett is not, nor ever will be, in a position to offer Luke Ball advice, on anything, ever.

Unless the DeLorean has malfunctioned and brought me back to the wrong future.

ace · Post: # 850019Post **ace** » Sat 17 Oct 2009 10:46am

Lennon wrote:
The OtherThommo wrote: Maybe, if he had a talk to Wally Lovett's little brother, Andrew, and discussed how you come to a footy club on the edge for shitloads less than you could get elsewhere, because you want to succeed, and that's what's important, we'd all be better off.
You can't be serious?

Andrew Lovett is not, nor ever will be, in a position to offer Luke Ball advice, on anything, ever.

Unless the DeLorean has malfunctioned and brought me back to the wrong future.

Sadly you are right.
If Ball had good advice from the likes of Lovett he would not have done what he did.
Unfortunately he took rotten advice from Paul Connors, Mum, Malthouse and Ego Eddy.

Dan Warna · Post: # 850026Post **Dan Warna** » Sat 17 Oct 2009 11:12am

Eddie has the be the dumbest **** to be a multi-millionaire.

he makes promises to everyone he can't keep.

fevola, ball, nick stevens, even shane crawford no wonder no one fuking likes the ass-hole

makes big promises to the players and then expects the clubs to fall over and give him what he wants for nothing.

Nick Stevens went to Carlton because Eddie made big promises to stevens and then offered Port SFA for him, expecting them to fall over.

he did the same thing to crawf a few years ago but the hawks legends talking him to staying (and winning a premiership in his last year).

you just got to wonder how fuking stupid is eddie? if he wasn't kerry packers ass cleaner he'd be in the gutter where he belongs.

AnythingsPossibleSaints · Sat 17 Oct 2009 12:00pm

Pretty hard to see anyone offering Bradshaw a 3 year contract. Unless they desperately want him for 2 years and are prepared to pay him something for a 3rd year, without expecting him to play that long. I think we can safely count ourselves out of this equation.

Dan Warna · Post: # 850047Post **Dan Warna** » Sat 17 Oct 2009 12:11pm

he's 31 right?

BaysideSaint · Sat 17 Oct 2009 1:03pm

raw vibes.
The Other Thommo - I liked the rant man. keep it real!

Moods · Post: # 850265Post **Moods** » Sat 17 Oct 2009 11:57pm

Dan Warna wrote:Eddie has the be the dumbest **** to be a multi-millionaire.

he makes promises to everyone he can't keep.

fevola, ball, nick stevens, even shane crawford no wonder no one fuking likes the ass-hole

makes big promises to the players and then expects the clubs to fall over and give him what he wants for nothing.

Nick Stevens went to Carlton because Eddie made big promises to stevens and then offered Port SFA for him, expecting them to fall over.

he did the same thing to crawf a few years ago but the hawks legends talking him to staying (and winning a premiership in his last year).

you just got to wonder how fuking stupid is eddie? if he wasn't kerry packers ass cleaner he'd be in the gutter where he belongs.

Bizarre rant

Eddie may be a few things but stupid isn't one of them. Maybe it's the players who are stupid for listening to him without doing their own due diligence? Either way, not sure how the pies have lost out on any of their deals you mentioned. He made a play for some big name players and didn't get them b/c he didn't offer enough, not like the pies have been giving away players to try and get them. He wants something for nothing - sometimes ppl are stupid enough to give you that.

And if you really believe that Eddie made his money by sucking up to Kerry Packer your delusioned. Who made the footy show what it was? Eddie's idea and now every channel has been trying to copy it or better it for 17 years. I don't like the footy show but I admire what Ed has done for footy.

Did sucking up to Packer assist Eddie dragging the pies out of the poor bin and making them the most powerful financial club in the league. I would have thought that is at least one criteria of a pres - making them financially sound.

You may not like Eddie - fair enough, but your reasons are bizarre to say the least. He is NOT dumb or stupid, possibly arrogant. If Eddie had been our pres for 10 years I guarantee we would love him.

matrix · Post: # 851111Post **matrix** » Tue 20 Oct 2009 6:33pm

brisbane got rid of Hooper?
shesh... i thought he was alright

Mr Magic · Post: # 851155Post **Mr Magic** » Tue 20 Oct 2009 8:39pm

I heard Caro on 3AW tonight with Dwaynepipe adn Tony Shaw.
Discussing Brisbane's activity she said the following:-

'Michael Voss walked out of the Grand Final shaking his head and muttering - we'll never be able to compete with those 2 Clubs'

and proceeded to plan the complete overhaul of his list.

SainterK · Post: # 851237Post **SainterK** » Wed 21 Oct 2009 12:03am

I thought the reason Voss did so well with his list last year, was because they were playing for him.

Then what does he do, either places them on the trade table or delists them

Armoooo · Post: # 851393Post **Armoooo** » Wed 21 Oct 2009 2:50pm

matrixcutter wrote:brisbane got rid of Hooper?
shesh... i thought he was alright

Michael Voss clearly wants big game players, in his two finals Rhan Hooper had 9 touches, 4 tackles and 1 goal... deplorable effort...

ThePunter · Post: # 851414Post **ThePunter** » Wed 21 Oct 2009 4:09pm

Brisbane's trading this off-season can most closely be compared to the trades that the computer does in AFL Premiership 2006 on the PS2.

You simply don't move one in every four players on your list out in one year. You take opportunities to get some youth in when the time is right (like St Kilda last year), and otherwise pick your spots.

There will never be a Brisbane line-up with X Clarke, Raines, Buchanon, Staker & Fevola all in the side together.

chook23 · Post: # 851415Post **chook23** » Wed 21 Oct 2009 4:11pm

ThePunter wrote:Brisbane's trading this off-season can most closely be compared to the trades that the computer does in AFL Premiership 2006 on the PS2.

You simply don't move one in every four players on your list out in one year. You take opportunities to get some youth in when the time is right (like St Kilda last year), and otherwise pick your spots.

There will never be a Brisbane line-up with X Clarke, Raines, Buchanon, Staker & Fevola all in the side together.

why not?

ThePunter · Post: # 851417Post **ThePunter** » Wed 21 Oct 2009 4:16pm

Because four of them are not automatic best 22 players.

It would be like saying Robert Neill, Rod Keogh, Jason Traianidis and Brad Campbell will all play in the same side for St Kilda during 1997. They're marginal players (and I loved, and still do love, Rod Keogh).

Also, Raines, Staker and X Clarke all have poor injury records.

I just think you pick your points. We went out and got Lovett, who is best-22, and Peake as our reclaimation project.

Voss went out and got four reclaimation projects, who arguably all have bigger question marks than Peake, whom I'm no massive wrap for.

MCG-Unit · Post: # 851421Post **MCG-Unit** » Wed 21 Oct 2009 4:55pm

Lennon wrote:
The OtherThommo wrote: Maybe, if he had a talk to Wally Lovett's little brother, Andrew, and discussed how you come to a footy club on the edge for shitloads less than you could get elsewhere, because you want to succeed, and that's what's important, we'd all be better off.
You can't be serious?

Andrew Lovett is not, nor ever will be, in a position to offer Luke Ball advice, on anything, ever......

Couldn't agree more

mightysainters · Wed 21 Oct 2009 5:01pm

chook23 wrote:
ThePunter wrote:Brisbane's trading this off-season can most closely be compared to the trades that the computer does in AFL Premiership 2006 on the PS2.

You simply don't move one in every four players on your list out in one year. You take opportunities to get some youth in when the time is right (like St Kilda last year), and otherwise pick your spots.

There will never be a Brisbane line-up with X Clarke, Raines, Buchanon, Staker & Fevola all in the side together.
why not?

Because Fev is the only good player and the rest are trash rejects.... Brisbane will be a 6-10 team...