Our Rookies

Mr Magic · Post: # 847874Post **Mr Magic** » Mon 12 Oct 2009 9:10am

Beno88 wrote:According to the AFL website, Miles and Dawson have already been promoted.

Wasn't that for Long term injuries this year? (Alen and X Clarke)

Beno88 · Post: # 847876Post **Beno88** » Mon 12 Oct 2009 9:18am

From AFL.com.au

ADDITIONS:
Exchange period â€“ received: Andrew Lovett (Essendon), Brett Peake (Fremantle)
Rookie elevation: Zac Dawson, Luke Miles
Scholarship elevation: Josh Duncan (Pennant Hills) â€“ rookie list, Ted Widner (Pennant Hills ) - rookie list
NAB AFL Draft: TBA
NAB AFL Rookie Draft: TBA

goodie · Post: # 847921Post **goodie** » Mon 12 Oct 2009 11:34am

Link please

Con Gorozidis · Mon 12 Oct 2009 1:42pm

Moccha wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:miles gone. simpkin promoted. the kid is a gun.
If Simpkin is a gun then why is he a rookie?

Have you seen him dominate at Sandy?

yes in the 2nd half of the season he was close to if not sandys best player. and hes a rookie cos of his age and cos he was injured in late 2008 around draft time.

47 Simpkin, Tom 191 83 07.08.90

45 Miles, Luke 186 78 30.10.86

miles is almost 23 years old and only 186cm. hed want to get a hurry on.....

saintly · Post: # 847952Post **saintly** » Mon 12 Oct 2009 2:01pm

Con Gorozidis wrote:
Moccha wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:miles gone. simpkin promoted. the kid is a gun.
If Simpkin is a gun then why is he a rookie?

Have you seen him dominate at Sandy?
yes in the 2nd half of the season he was close to if not sandys best player. and hes a rookie cos of his age and cos he was injured in late 2008 around draft time.

47 Simpkin, Tom 191 83 07.08.90

45 Miles, Luke 186 78 30.10.86

miles is almost 23 years old and only 186cm. hed want to get a hurry on.....

remember this article

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/art ... ports.html

and this one

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthrea ... t+profiles

borderbarry · Mon 12 Oct 2009 5:52pm

Same size as Max. Simpkin appears to have more going for him than Miles. For a start, he can be retained for a couple of years on the rookie list.

vacuous space · Mon 12 Oct 2009 6:07pm

borderbarry wrote:Simpkin appears to have more going for him than Miles.

Miles ran the fastest sprint time ever recorded at a state screening and has outstanding agility and vertical leap. He won a B+F playing for a GF team in the WAFL. He was on the verge of AFL selection a couple of times this year. He's got an awful lot going for him. It's a shame people just look at his age and assume he's gone. I'm not sure how Simpkin has more going for him. He's taller and younger. Anything else?

spiral2 · Post: # 848117Post **spiral2** » Mon 12 Oct 2009 6:29pm

vacuous space wrote:
borderbarry wrote:Simpkin appears to have more going for him than Miles.
Miles ran the fastest sprint time ever recorded at a state screening and has outstanding agility and vertical leap. He won a B+F playing for a GF team in the WAFL. He was on the verge of AFL selection a couple of times this year. He's got an awful lot going for him. It's a shame people just look at his age and assume he's gone. I'm not sure how Simpkin has more going for him. He's taller and younger. Anything else?

he's a good defender, does that count

miles is quick and all but whenever I've seen him play for sandy he doesn't seem to use his pace effectively. looked promising in the wiz cup a year or two ago but doesn't seem to have progressed.

Simpkin on the other hand looks very handy, seen him play on bigger stronger players and beat them hands down one on one. just looks like a smart and level headed player. reckon he will be a very good defender for the saints.

bobmurray · Post: # 848147Post **bobmurray** » Mon 12 Oct 2009 7:40pm

Here's the Senior list as it stands today..

http://www.saints.com.au/players/tabid/ ... fault.aspx

here's the Rookie list as it stands today.

http://www.saints.com.au/players/tabid/ ... fault.aspx

and here is the NSW scholarship list as it is today..

http://www.saints.com.au/players/tabid/ ... fault.aspx

bobmurray · Post: # 848148Post **bobmurray** » Mon 12 Oct 2009 7:42pm

Kane Murphy is a very small player at 168cm.....

ace · Post: # 848192Post **ace** » Mon 12 Oct 2009 8:42pm

borderbarry wrote:I imagine Blake McGrath will go onto the normal rookie list now that he has had his NSW rookie season. And we will probably take two new NSW rookies. Plus room has to be made for the two Irish boys. So there will be a fair bit of movement in our rookie list.

No Blake McGrath can remain one more year as a "former NSW scholarship holder rookie".
A club is allowed up to 3 of this special category.
Khan Haretuku has completed his 2 year stint in this category.
Josh Duncan and Ted Widner can move into it.

We are then allowed 6 ordinary rookies.
Any Irish would be included as ordinary rookies but able to stay ordinary rookies for 3 years before facing the AFL draft.
Luke Miles and Zac Dawson both must be permanently promoted to the senior list or go into the national draft, they can no longer be rookied due to age.
Khan Haretuku has to face the national draft now that his 2 years are up before he can be preselected as an ordinary rookie for only one more year.
Steve Gaertner, Sam McGarry, Ross Tungatalum, Tom Simpkin can be retained as rookies for one more year before facing the national draft.
I think Brad Howard can be retained as a rookie for one more year before facing the national draft again but I suspect he will be viewed as a list clogger.

Note: St Kilda had 7 ordinary rookies, 1 being a nominated rookie in 2009 because we were one veteran player short of a full primary list.
Hayes and Baker will give St Kilda a full veteran list and primary list for 2010.

ace · Post: # 848208Post **ace** » Mon 12 Oct 2009 8:53pm

bobmurray wrote:Kane Murphy is a very small player at 168cm.....

He is still at a growing age and not been remeasured in nearly a year.
Feed him at McDonalds then measure him and he will suddenly grow 10 cm.

st_Trav_ofWA · Mon 12 Oct 2009 9:12pm

spoke to my newsagent over here in perth (just happends to be Luke Miles's uncle) so far hes been told that he is being considered for premotion to the senior list but hes gotta keep on working hard if he is retained .... (last year he was told to be patient as it more a long term prospect then a quick jump into the seniors .. )... aparently SOS is a big Fan of Miles so ?!?!?!

ace · Post: # 848235Post **ace** » Mon 12 Oct 2009 9:26pm

Beno88 wrote:According to the AFL website, Miles and Dawson have already been promoted.

I think you are referring to the St Kilda club website.
Miles and Dawson were temporarily promoted to the senior list in place of long term injured players.

Their permanent promotion will be as a result of List Lodgement No 1 due on 30 October.

Clubs are making all sorts of announcements about retirements and delistings but they don't become official in the eyes of the AFL until List Lodgement No 1.

Gurgman · Post: # 848238Post **Gurgman** » Mon 12 Oct 2009 9:28pm

Con Gorozidis wrote:miles gone. simpkin promoted. the kid is a gun.

Yep , im with you Con , i have a good feeling about this lad ,
Ps , your not the real Con as if you were you would know me )))

saintbrat · Post: # 848241Post **saintbrat** » Mon 12 Oct 2009 9:34pm

anyone found beno88's link to club lists yet?

can't see anything on Saints.com. or AFL.com

bobmurray · Post: # 848263Post **bobmurray** » Mon 12 Oct 2009 9:51pm

saintbrat wrote:anyone found beno88's link to club lists yet?

can't see anything on Saints.com. or AFL.com

check the links in my post....

i'm sure they are the latest lists

saintbrat · Post: # 848291Post **saintbrat** » Mon 12 Oct 2009 10:36pm

bobmurray wrote:
saintbrat wrote:anyone found beno88's link to club lists yet?

can't see anything on Saints.com. or AFL.com
check the links in my post....

i'm sure they are the latest lists

I agree
just wondered where beno saw the list as he's taken a piece- usually the one produced by afl after trade /draft time but I hadn;t seen it online yet..

Milan Faletic · Tue 13 Oct 2009 12:05am

Any more info on Simpkin?

Excuse my ignorance. Any solid info on him?

SaintSimmo · Tue 13 Oct 2009 12:12am

ace wrote:
bobmurray wrote:Kane Murphy is a very small player at 168cm.....
He is still at a growing age and not been remeasured in nearly a year.
Feed him at McDonalds then measure him and he will suddenly grow 10 cm.

Yer in the waist!!!

SaintSimmo · Tue 13 Oct 2009 12:17am

Miles Promoted
Dawson Promoted
Khan Haretuku Gone
Steve Gaertner ?????
Sam McGarry Donâ€™t Know How he is developing but is 208cm so keep.
Ross Tungatalum will bring that specialness to the team in a few years.
Tom Simpkin looks like a great defender could possibly even be promoted
Howard Gone

bobmurray · Post: # 848319Post **bobmurray** » Tue 13 Oct 2009 12:38am

SaintSimmo wrote:Miles Promoted
Dawson Promoted
Khan Haretuku Gone
Steve Gaertner ?????
Sam McGarry Donâ€™t Know How he is developing but is 208cm so keep.
Ross Tungatalum will bring that specialness to the team in a few years.
Tom Simpkin looks like a great defender could possibly even be promoted
Howard Gone

McGarry is not 208cm tall

....51 Sam McGarry 185cm 76kg D.O.B. 21.04.90 and
....48 Blake McGrath 208cm 85kg D.O.B. 24.04.90 and
....47 Tom Simpkin 191cm 83kg D.O.B. 07.08.90...

ace · Post: # 848321Post **ace** » Tue 13 Oct 2009 12:54am

bobmurray wrote:
saintbrat wrote:anyone found beno88's link to club lists yet?

can't see anything on Saints.com. or AFL.com
check the links in my post....

i'm sure they are the latest lists

Those links are to the St Kilda FC Website.
They do not distinguish between temporarily promoted rookies and permanently promoted rookies.

The List Lodgement No 1 will show the permanently promoted rookies as senior players and contain no temporarily promoted rookies.

The last list lodgements can be found at http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx
These remain valid until List Lodgement No 1 on 30 October when the effects of the trade period, rookie promotions & delistings and the first round of senior delistings & retirements take place.

Con Gorozidis · Tue 13 Oct 2009 1:53am

simpkin from colac too. so we know he will be tough

borderbarry · Tue 13 Oct 2009 11:14am

....48 Blake McGrath 208cm 85kg D.O.B. 24.04.90 and
He is the one who needs the McDonalds diet....