Where does this leave Ball?

battye · Post: # 845295Post **battye** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:10pm

So it's been an interesting few days... I didn't see the Xavier Clarke trade coming at all. A few of the other big names (Burgoyne, Lovett, etc) have already been traded, which limits any Ball trade options.

So what is the most likely scenario at this point? Ball still a chance at the Pies with a last minute deal (D. Thomas <-> L. Ball)... will another club step in at the last minute... will he go into the PSD... will he stay?

What is the general consensus?

Dan Warna · Post: # 845297Post **Dan Warna** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:11pm

congratulations Bally on winning Melbournes B&F, nice if they won a game as well in 2010

Statsman · Post: # 845298Post **Statsman** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:13pm

Is Collingwood the only option for Ball? I know he's nominated them as his "preferred" club, but I haven't heard anything about any other clubs sniffing around other than the Demons hoping to get him for free in the PSD.

claystreet · Post: # 845299Post **claystreet** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:13pm

He will be kicking daisy cutters at the G

Sainterman · Post: # 845320Post **Sainterman** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:24pm

Guess we will know by 2pm tmw, but i reckon he and his manager are sweating atm.

Amazing what one decision can create...there is no reason for us to help out Collingwood here though so I expect us to play hardball...

Milton66 · Post: # 845337Post **Milton66** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:32pm

Up shyte creek in a barbed-wire canoe and without a paddle?

doristhesaint · Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:35pm

Milton66 wrote:Up shyte creek in a barbed-wire canoe and without a paddle?

Hope we are not going into the wind

claystreet · Post: # 845344Post **claystreet** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:37pm

If he goes to the Pies he'll only be "Up shyte creek in a barbed-wire canoe rowing with a crow bar"

saintrod · Post: # 845351Post **saintrod** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:44pm

Unfortunately and I hope I am wrong but the Ball situation is
panning out exactly as I thought.

We either take an inadequate offer from the pies ie a 2nd round pick
and/or some dud players or he goes through to the PSD.

My gut feeling is we should let him go through to the PSD knowing
he has paid his last final game of his career and not gifting the pies
a great deal.

However I suspect when crunch comes to crunchy we are just going
to take the crappy deal rather than get nothing.

Dan Warna · Post: # 845362Post **Dan Warna** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:53pm

I'd say much as a few other players, ball's been painted into a corner by a big mouth and greedy manager who wants 20% of more than 250k.

now he's screwed himself, and his player.

Its not the first time a greedy manager has screwed up his players career.

Trust me luke....

'sources close to luke" a 'family friend close to luke"

you only have to watch him play that he gave his all to the club on GF day, and before, his closeness to the other players.

I reckon connors just got into him and he is still young 'your worth more than this", "trust me, i'll get you 500k" etc etc.

westy · Post: # 845367Post **westy** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:57pm

Spot on Dan. The only thing lower than a player's manger is a snakes belly. Anybody remember Ricky Nixon's efforts

Stillwaiting · Thu 08 Oct 2009 9:00pm

Dan Warna wrote:congratulations Bally on winning Melbournes B&F, nice if they won a game as well in 2010

Pretty embarrassing for him if he didnt win the B&F

boneless23 · Post: # 845377Post **boneless23** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 9:01pm

They just said on SEN that Conners believes the talks between Stk and Collingwood are extremely positive and that both parties are confident that a deal will be done.

We are obviously holding out for a 'quality' player but as we know from Collingwood, they always rate their players much higher than anyone else does.

sendmehomehappy · Thu 08 Oct 2009 9:04pm

Seems that for a supposedly clever man, Ball has acted quite dumbly through all of this...

seems that for a man of the kind of principles and character we were all led to believe, over the past few years that he had...he sold us a pup and sold out to mammon...

In the end, he makes the final decision, no matter what his family or agent suggest...he is responsible...

Send him to Melbourne...unless we get a fair and worthwhile trade....stuff C'wood...by the time the demon's young talent are all firing and they are a genuine finals threat...Ball will be long finished.

Junior · Post: # 845385Post **Junior** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 9:04pm

Like to know what a fair trade is seen as we asked for Goldsack and they refused.

I say stuff Collingwood and let him walk to the PSD.

SaintSimmo · Post: # 845389Post **SaintSimmo** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 9:05pm

boneless23 wrote:They just said on SEN that Conners believes the talks between Stk and Collingwood are extremely positive and that both parties are confident that a deal will be done.

We are obviously holding out for a 'quality' player but as we know from Collingwood, they always rate their players much higher than anyone else does.

From Rumors going around and alot of talk on radio i am expecting tommorow around midday we will see luke ball traded to the pies for 2nd round draft pick and either nathan brown (pies variety, not the one legged one), tyson goldsack or at best steele sidebottom, most likely goldsack. goldSACK for Ball interesting trade!!

battye · Post: # 845396Post **battye** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 9:08pm

What is Goldsack like? Wasn't he dropped before the finals?

desertsaint · Thu 08 Oct 2009 9:09pm

collingwood have shafted him - greedy bastards didn't learn from the stevens fiasco. if they approached his manager and it's influenced his decision, then they are obligated to do the right thing and ensure a fair trade so that he doesn't go into the psd.
we'll see what happens.

Johnny Utah · Thu 08 Oct 2009 9:09pm

Junior wrote:I say stuff Collingwood and let him walk to the PSD.

He goes into the National Draft before the PSD.

SaintSimmo · Post: # 845403Post **SaintSimmo** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 9:10pm

battye wrote:What is Goldsack like? Wasn't he dropped before the finals?

He is still developing but i think he is quite decent.

joffaboy · Post: # 845405Post **joffaboy** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 9:13pm

Johnny Utah wrote:
Junior wrote:I say stuff Collingwood and let him walk to the PSD.
He goes into the National Draft before the PSD.

And once more you - Melbourne will pick him up before you.

satchmo · Post: # 845406Post **satchmo** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 9:14pm

but hey we might get josh, who once stood up in a gf!!!

Stillwaiting · Thu 08 Oct 2009 9:17pm

Rather him go i the PSD than take fraser, or any other filth players. They dont have a lot that can really improve us. Would be happy if it worked out that we got Everritt in a 3 way deal

S.A Saint · Post: # 845430Post **S.A Saint** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 9:26pm

i hope we throw in our pick 60 or what ever we got and get dayne beams for him.....

Mr Magic · Post: # 845433Post **Mr Magic** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 9:29pm

S.A Saint wrote:i hope we throw in our pick 60 or what ever we got and get dayne beams for him.....

He's already got the Club motto tattooed on his chest.