OFFICIAL: Xavier Clarke - Traded for 4th rounder (Pick 60)

Mooksy · Post: # 845084Post **Mooksy** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:00pm

Question: What did he ever do for us?

SainterK · Post: # 845085Post **SainterK** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:00pm

Mr Magic wrote:Maybe it's less of a 'trade' and more of a 'list management' issue?

If so then the Club deserves plaudits for allowing X, a fine servant cruelled by injury, another opportunity to finally achieve what he promised all those years ago?

All the club has been getting the past few days is unfair kicks up the bum, I am over it....

joffaboy · Post: # 845086Post **joffaboy** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:00pm

Teflon wrote:
chook23 wrote:A player with injury history

coming back from knee reco

HE WANTED OUT AND A FRESH START
Thats all great...pick 60 in a shyte draft?

what r u gonna develop for that?

Not much but if we all know #60 is s.hite I would hazzard a guess that the club knows it as well.

We only need to take two in the draft plus a rookie.

May not even be used if we keep it.

Good luck X.

Teflon · Post: # 845089Post **Teflon** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:01pm

SinCitySaint wrote:Maybe we are freeing up cap space.

Ball frees up cap space...

X frees up parking meter coin....

Im not hoplding out for the "big" trade coming from left field either...itd be nice......but we just signed the guy? he JUST agreed to it.......now he wants to leave?

donthglfa · Post: # 845092Post **donthglfa** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:02pm

Milton66 wrote:Frankly, we only ever saw glimpses of X's best, as he was injury prone.

You can compare him with Peake etc, but the cold hard facts are that our latest recruits have AFL bodies.

I agree, I was disappointed when I first heard about X being traded because I have been saying all last year we have still got x to come back in next year. But he is very injury prone and after so much time out would make it more so I think.

xander · Post: # 845093Post **xander** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:02pm

Griggsy wrote:I don't know all the technical stuff and I just thought of this.

So, I read on here that you need to make a number of selections in the draft and we were are at the minimum level. Soooo now we have another pick and we can trade one off as part of a Ball Deal? If my logic is right we could see a big trade tmr.

yeah i wouldn't be surprised to see 60 go with ball and our 2 picks to be decent.

vacuous space · Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:04pm

Teflon wrote:Im not hoplding out for the "big" trade coming from left field either...

Neither am I. We've got Ball to trade, who doesn't seem to be attracting a great return, then what? Our best pick is #32 and our second is pick 60. We don't have a lot to move.

mad saint guy · Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:04pm

I can't see Clarke's body ever being able to withstand regular AFL footy, especially not in the Lyon game style. Good luck to him, but I don't think he'll last too long at Brisbane either.

hotdish · Post: # 845101Post **hotdish** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:05pm

Mooksy wrote:Question: What did he ever do for us?

played 100 games, gave his all, represented the club well off the field and mentored many of our indegenous players.

have some fkn respect.

borderbarry · Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:06pm

I still think we have been shafted big time. Pick 60 for X-man??? And here we are trading for fast players and giving perhaps our fastest player away for Pick 60!

Ralphy · Post: # 845104Post **Ralphy** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:07pm

Now go get n.brown from richmond

suss · Post: # 845106Post **suss** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:07pm

hotdish wrote:
Mooksy wrote:Question: What did he ever do for us?
played 100 games, gave his all, represented the club well off the field and mentored many of our indegenous players.

have some fkn respect.

Agreed. X played some very, very good football. He's also a quality kid. Hopefully he gets his body right and proves a lot of people wrong.

Griggsy · Post: # 845117Post **Griggsy** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:13pm

nostalgia wearing off. Looking at it from Brisbanes view. This guy is coming back from a Knee recon, hasnt played a string of AFL games in God knows how long. We would like him, but can he keep up, will his knee give more issues, will he still be as fast? Need some insurance, pick 60 it is.

Logically it was either going to be keep him or get a low pick. In Ross we Trust, he has proven himself enough for me to believe in him, he has a plan.

undecided · Post: # 845119Post **undecided** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:13pm

Luke Ball + pick(s) for Shaun Burgoyne.

you heard it here first

claystreet · Post: # 845121Post **claystreet** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:14pm

borderbarry wrote:I still think we have been shafted big time. Pick 60 for X-man??? And here we are trading for fast players and giving perhaps our fastest player away for Pick 60!

He hasnt been on the ground for 5 minutes how could he be the fastest?

He was worth peanuts, he got a second chnace and took it.

Ghost Like · Post: # 845134Post **Ghost Like** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:20pm

All the best X, I hope you get to showcase that talent we only saw glimpses of but I really hope your brother towels you up when we meet.

CaptainRiewoldt · Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:21pm

Guys relax. Yeah its not a great trade it a loss BUT the top clubs will have losses and this is our first only.

Xavier isnt in top 26 and actually with thios roosy game plan he maybe not even top 32!!!

Saint Bev · Post: # 845189Post **Saint Bev** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:54pm

So X has chosen to walk also. So how come everyones not getting stuck into him like Luke. No difference. If anything he is more injury prone.

St Fidelius · Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:55pm

borderbarry wrote:I still think we have been shafted big time. Pick 60 for X-man??? And here we are trading for fast players and giving perhaps our fastest player away for Pick 60!

hey baz...

what makes you think that X was one of our fastest players??

Also bearing in mind coming of a knee reco and many hamstring injuries?

Yes, X is worth more than pick 60, we all know that, but with the inclusion of two faster midfielders, and X thinking that maybe he not get much games he has moved on.

We may not pick a player at #60, so be it. I wonder if the Lions are going to pick up the 1 year price the Club had on him???

Dr Spaceman · Thu 08 Oct 2009 6:59pm

From the club's point of view I can't help but feel it's more about freeing up space in the cap and on the list (noting we've already picked up 2 players with possibly 1 more to come). And given X's history it would be a bit hard to demand more than we got from Brisbane.

And from X's point of view it seems he has a bit more security which is important once again given his history with injuries.

So the pick 60 is irrelevant in my view.

Like others I totally trust RL and his team.

And all the best Xavier.

degruch · Post: # 845199Post **degruch** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 7:01pm

Saint Bev wrote:So X has chosen to walk also. So how come everyones not getting stuck into him like Luke. No difference. If anything he is more injury prone.

Meh...why bother wasting your time getting stuck into either of them. Footy is emotion for us, but for a player it's also a business, they've got a limited time to act on their career potential. Good luck to X, good luck to Bally.

joffaboy · Post: # 845200Post **joffaboy** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 7:01pm

Saint Bev wrote:So X has chosen to walk also. So how come everyones not getting stuck into him like Luke. No difference. If anything he is more injury prone.

because he was contracted to the Saints. We could have blocked it if we wanted to.

X signed a contract - Ball wouldn't sign a contract and has started this crap about family unhappy and untenable all through leaking to the media.

Ball has been dishonourable and is getting shirty because he is not getting his own way.

he also almost certainly was negotiating with Collingwood during our finals series - remember that thing the GF we were trying to win?

Basically there is good will toward X - none toward Ball.

Griggsy · Post: # 845206Post **Griggsy** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 7:04pm

Dr Spaceman wrote:
And from X's point of view it seems he has a bit more security which is important once again given his history with injuries.

.

We got King for pick 90. Like Geelong, we may be giving him an opportunity elsewhere.

Mr Magic · Post: # 845210Post **Mr Magic** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 7:06pm

Saint Bev wrote:So X has chosen to walk also. So how come everyones not getting stuck into him like Luke. No difference. If anything he is more injury prone.

I don't see them as similar cases at all.
Tp start with, X has been respectful and thankfull to the Club. He also hasn't seemed to be bagging the Club either.

He hasn't claimed:-
he was offered more by the Saints than Brisbane
He wants more game time
he finds himself in an untenable position with the Coach.

And there is absolutely no inkling of him having been negotiating for some time with Brisbane or any other Club.

Maybe these are part of the reason that X hasn't received the same angst as Luke Ball.

Maybe forumites are deeply disappointed with the way Ball's departure/defection has been orchestrated?

Armoooo · Post: # 845227Post **Armoooo** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 7:17pm

A pick that we probably wont use for a player that was probably never going to play consecutive games for us again...

A nil all draw...

I believe that we are only really disappointed by this deal because of the hope that Xavier represented when we were coming off a few bad years...

If Xavier was taken off hie rookie list instead of being a top 5 draft pick we wouldn't really care about this trade.

Good luck Xavier, hope you have a successful career, just not against us.